who says jews and muslims cannot be friends?

oh i got a warning for this-how rude

Originally posted by Maharbbal No offense but I'd say you have all chances to be banned before your 500th post

Originally posted by Omar al Hashim No this is quite wrong. Homosexuality is strictly forbidden but there is absolutely no death penalty. I don't think there is any punishment at all in this world.

Edited by Komnenos - 22-Oct-2006 at 10:22

Sorry Kom, by 'in this world' I meant 'not in the afterlife' according to theory and not practice. As in, homosexuality may get you a punishment in the afterlife, but no human should give any punishment.

I didn't mean to imply that all countries in this world were tolerant.

Originally posted by Tipu Sultan well if you check my link properly omar it is stated that death is the punishment of homo in Islam.

Edited by Aelfgifu - 24-Oct-2006 at 09:53

Originally posted by Tipu Sultan i came across this intresting site about jews and muslims. www.jews-for-allah.org

Arabs for Israel: http://www.arabsforisrael.com/

Edited by Pacifist - 24-Oct-2006 at 17:37

Originally posted by erkut But mostly Turks(Azerbaijan,Turkey) has good relationships with jews.

Nah, the populace hates Israel (this applies to all Muslim nations), but the Turkish government has decided that good relations with Israel is beneficial and they are right. 

Edited by Pacifist - 24-Oct-2006 at 19:14

Originally posted by Pacifist   Arabs for Israel: http://www.arabsforisrael.com/   I agree, maybe there is hope after all :)

Edited by Komnenos - 25-Oct-2006 at 16:23

Some Islamic governements do criminalize homosexuality which does lead to various punishments. However, Islamic religion itself does not sanction such punishments.

As in, homosexuality may get you a punishment in the afterlife, but no human should give any punishment.

Is the Hadith not a part of the Islamic religion?

Originally posted by arch.buff Do you have any sources from the Koran or the hadith?

arch.buff.. here you go mate

Quote:

    �Kill the one who sodomises and the one who lets it be done to him.� � Tirmidhi.

    �Lesbianism by women is adultery between them.� � Tabarani. (Considering that death is the penalty for adultery.)

    �If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death.� � Sunan Abu Dawud, 38:4448.


If adultery (heterosexual sex) results in the death penalty, then it would stand to reason what the outcome would be for homosexuality, considering it is frowned upon as 'unnatural sex'.

In the bible however, it is specifically stated that homosexuality must be punised by death, (Leviticus 20:13) which once again proves how twisted religion in general is.

You're talking OT, Judaism, but Christianity does not support this,
or gay-bashing for that matter.
A Christian, a mere mortal, does not have the right to punish such an individual or impose death for that matter.. "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone"
There's quite a difference.

 

Originally posted by Komnenos What a brilliant idea, why hasn't anybody else thought of it? What you mean of course is, not that Jews and Muslims become friends, but that Jews become Muslims.  The simple solution to a complicated problem is that all Jewish people convert to Islam and, hey presto, Bob is your uncle, and the world is put right again.    Haven't laughed that much for ages. Is this for real or is it an eloborate joke?   Btw. it could work the other way round as well. All Muslims convert to Judaism...........

Yes, its an actual organization, they've got Jews for Jesus as well, I've seen them at campus several times, alongside a lot of various organizations competing for a few seconds to spew their ideas on students