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    Posted: 12-Dec-2004 at 15:07
Can anyone tell me why none of the Achaemenids, the Parthians, or the Sassanids ever subjugated Arabia?
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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Dec-2004 at 16:06

Probably the same reason Greeks did not conquer Europe, and decided to head east. There was nothing in Arabia that was worth the conquest at that time. The settlements in Arabia were mainly stop over for trade routes connecting the near-east to the small civilization that was established in what is now Yemen toward the end of that period. Arabia was not densely populated until the oil boom the 20th century. Also, Sassanids did conquer the lower shores of the Persian Gulf

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  Quote Sharrukin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 00:56
From the very beginning of recorded history, Arabia simply was considered not worth conquering.  For Mesopotamian civilizations, it was the realm of dirty nomads.  It was no coincidence that the various empires only conquered within the Fertile Crescent.  It was only when these nomads attacked the settled areas did the rulers made campaigns into the desert areas.  For the most part these campaigns were just to neutralize or contain the nomads, not to establish an imperial control.
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  Quote azimuth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 10:10

well alexander the great was planning to conquere Arabia

what and where  to conquere  i dont know

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  Quote J.M.Finegold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Dec-2004 at 20:32
Put it this way... would you like to venture into a land of sand, where the only water is located at sporadic oasis, and where most likely the little cities exist are going to merely oppose you and force you into various drawn out sieges?  And if you do, all you get is a bunch of sand, a bunch of people you have to keep under your thumb.  Is it worthwhile?
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  Quote azimuth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Dec-2004 at 04:26

not worth it 

 just an area to add to the empire

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  Quote Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Dec-2004 at 18:21
Wouldn't Arabia allow the conquerers ports from which they could trade with the people of southern Africa, and the Far East, instead of walking the distance or simply, or more difficult if you will, conquering it?

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  Quote J.M.Finegold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Dec-2004 at 21:52
No, those who could access the Persian Gulf had plenty of ports - the Romans had ports in Egypt, and the Ptolemy Canal ( a smaller version of the modern Suez canal), and the Persians had Iran and Mesopotamia.
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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 13:35

The period you are questioning spans over 11 centuries. Many things changed in that time period. At the beginning there was not much outside the Achaemenid empire to trade with. Toward the end of that period most of the trade was done over the land anything going over the oceans was probably done through the Persian Gulf. The only trade route going through Arabia toward the end of Sassanid period connected East Africa to Near East which as trade route was very insignificant. Although the effect of that trade route did have a major impact in the world causing the creation of Islam. The answer to you question is still the same. There was nothing in Arabia worth conquest until oil came into the picture in the 20th century.

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  Quote JanusRook Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 13:52

There was nothing in Arabia worth conquest until oil came into the picture in the 20th century.

Which begs the question....Why isn't it conquered yet?

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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Dec-2004 at 15:42

Which begs the question....Why isn't it conquered yet?

 

It depends whom you ask. Some would say it is conquered

 

 

 

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  Quote azimuth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2004 at 00:53

 

it will be very stupid idea to conquer any country like the old times

controling others economy is one of the new ways to conquer.

most of the countries of the world  are trying not to get the USA (Empire) angry.

 

 

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  Quote Berosus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2004 at 21:05
The Sassanids did conquer part of Arabia.  A naval expedition captured Yemen in 575 A.D., and they ruled it until 628, when Mohammed took it back.  The Persian king at the time, Kavadh II, was very angry at Mohammed for that reason.  Later in the same year, Mohammed sent letters to the three strongest rulers of that time, ordering them to convert to Islam:  Kavadh, Heraclius of Byzantium, and Taizong of China.  Kavadh tore his copy to pieces and ordered the messenger to get out of his sight.  When Mohammed heard the response he prayed, "Even so, o Lord!  Rend thou his kingdom from him."

In case you're wondering, we don't know if Heraclius received his copy; if he did, he didn't bother to answer it.  The most curious--and positive--response came from the Chinese emperor.  He thought the message was an offer to trade, accepted on those terms, and built a mosque in Canton for the spiritual welfare of the Arab traders who visited China.  It later burned down, but a second mosque, called Huaisheng ("Remember the Sage"), was built on the same spot in 1695, and still stands today.
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  Quote Ahmed The Fighter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-May-2005 at 14:36
because the oil not founded yet in arabia
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  Quote ramin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-May-2005 at 18:43
Originally posted by Ahmed The Fighter

because the oil not founded yet in arabia
were you being serious or joking? cuz you didn't put any emotions so I assumed you were serious.

Anyway, did you thought of that all by yourself?
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  Quote PrznKonectoid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Nov-2005 at 01:36

Although they never formally ruled over Arabia, the Achaemenids did in fact take much tribute from ARabia, especially Dariush who forced the Arabs to pay tons of frankincense.

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