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    Posted: 06-Oct-2006 at 06:39
Originally posted by Bulldog

Chinease Muslims? Uygur Turks, Tajik Iranics, Hui group who are made up of various ethnicities including Mongols, Machu, Turks, Iranics, Han Chinease?
 
There are millions of muslims in China among them there are many ethnicities, the largest being Uygur Turks.
 
there is also a ethnic chinese group living in the north near gobi dessert forgot the name thow
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  Quote Tipu Sultan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Oct-2006 at 12:02
good information guys
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  Quote Mordoth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Oct-2006 at 10:52
Tipu Sultan ;
Those people ARE nOT CHINESE MUSLIMS , however those whom you implied are Oppresse Turks of the region that are living with lack of Rights in former China ...




    

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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Oct-2006 at 11:55
I'm not talking about uigurs mordoth I was talking about the hui
 
there like han chinese only muslim
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  Quote Tipu Sultan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Oct-2006 at 11:57
well no guys i am not only talking about turkmenistan but about muslims who are also living in beijing and sanghai.they are quiet a number with a chinese origin.
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Oct-2006 at 12:25
most famous one is Zheng He or Admiral Hajji Mahmud
 
the famous chinese admiral of the treasure fleet
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Oct-2006 at 16:16
I got it from mongolian forum. It seems like religion is not Mongol identity. They are just simply accepting every religion. World should learn from them
 
This week is the symbol for co-existence of different religions.

Mongolians are religous people. Also Mongols are well known for their tolerance to any religion since time of Chinggis Khaan.
Even today in Mongolia, there are all sorts of religous activities are bubbling in Ulaanbaatar.

Whatever you might say about the career of Chinggis Khan, its a fact that there was a place in his capital at Kharkhorin for religions of many stripes: Buddhist, Christian, Taoist, Muslim, Zoroastrian, Shaman, you name it. In this year when Mongolia is celebrating its 800th anniversary of statehood, this week in particular seems to reflect this ecumenical spirit.

At the same time as the Dalai Lamas visit, large crowds are also gathering for satsang with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

(pictured here on a banner in front of Ulaanbaatars Wrestling Palace)

Mongolia confers top honour on Sri Sri Ravi Shankar
IANS) Noted Indian spiritual leader Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was Thursday conferred the Order of the Pole Star, top civilian and military honour of Mongolia, in recognition of the contribution his Art of Living Foundation has made to the nation.

President of Mongolia Nambaryn Enkhbayar conferred the award to Sri Sri Ravi Shankar at a function held in the presidential palace in Ulan Bator, the Art of Living Foundation said in a statement.

Receiving the award, Ravi Shankar said: "It (the award) is a honour not to a person but to the ancient philosophy and spiritual tradition of India."

He is currently on a three-day visit to Mongolia.

During the visit, he was welcomed by several top leaders including the president, who has undergone the spiritual programme known as Art of Living. Thousands of people attended his functions during, with more than 10,000 people present at a session on Sudarshan Kriya, a rhythmic breathing and yoga programme developed by Ravi Shankar.

"The visit has brought great joy and happiness to the members of the Art of Living family," said a devotee. "By visiting Mongolia, Guruji has honoured the feelings and fulfilled the desires of thousands of Mongolians," she added.

Reacting to the overwhelming response of the people of Mongolia, Ravi Shankar said: "The visit has strengthened the long spiritual connection between India and Mongolia."


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Dalai Lama's visit shines spotlight on Mongolia's explosion of faiths
Posted 8/24/2006 
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Mongolian Christians raise their arms in praise at a rally for Canadian evanglist Peter Yongren in Mongolia's capital Ulan Bator.
ULAN BATOR, Mongolia (AP) The Dalai Lama, Mongolia's most revered religious figure, is visiting this week, but some here sway with religious fervor for another stripe of holy man.
"Hallelujah," a crowd shouts at a stage where Canadian evangelist Peter Yongren is calling out, "Jesus will come to you tonight," echoed in Mongolian by a translator.

There isn't a lama or dharma wheel in sight.

"Certainly Tibetan Buddhism is part of our culture, but it shouldn't be our religion," said Tsendkhorol, 53, a retired actress wearing a pink T-shirt emblazoned with the English message "Thy kingdom come." Like many Mongolians, she uses only a single name. ....

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  Quote tsar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Oct-2006 at 19:44
"egypt who were muslims and slowly they bowed to the superiority of islam and became muslims. "

Wait wait wait SINCE wen did islam become superior?
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  Quote Nestorian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Oct-2006 at 12:05
"egypt who were muslims and slowly they bowed to the superiority of islam and became muslims. "

And this makes other religions...........
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  Quote yan. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Oct-2006 at 08:54

Most of the Mongols I met believe in Lamaism and Shamans, or both. I also met some Born Again Christians or followers of Peter Youngren LOL . In fact, I even know a mongolian woman married to a (presumably) muslim. But I don't know if she follows any religion or not ...

None of them really look like Hui muslims, btw. :D
 
 
 
Mongolia has in fact a Muslim minority, the Kazakhs. Ulaanbaatar even has a newly-built mosque in the eastern outskirts.


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hmmm... Mongols have plenty of religion for sure. Clever politic, isn't it , Many religion co-exist together, checking on each other and none of them  can not dominate Mongolia and its people
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  Quote Scytho-Sarmatian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Oct-2006 at 07:32
I maintain that the majority of today's Mongols (of MongoliaWink) are Tibetan Buddhists ("Lamaists").  They are obviously open to other influences as well, as the Mongols have been relatively open-minded about religion throughout their history.  Recently, evangelical Christians have been aggressively trying to take advantage of this open-mindedness, with some degree of success.
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  Quote galvatron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Oct-2006 at 13:49
I think the dongxiang in china who are muslim are related to the mongol people .
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  Quote yan. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Oct-2006 at 03:52
Originally posted by Germanius

hmmm... Mongols have plenty of religion for sure. Clever politic, isn't it , Many religion co-exist together, checking on each other and none of them  can not dominate Mongolia and its people
 
I don't think there is any politics behind it - they just don't care. And of course Lamaism has often been no more than a means of politics and domination in pre-revolutionary times. Just take look from what family the first Jebsundamba Khutugtu (sp?) came from, for example.
 
 
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  Quote Jonon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Oct-2006 at 23:49
Religion is not a mongol thing.
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  Quote Jonon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Oct-2006 at 23:50
When Mongols converted into muslim, their glory became turkic tribes and they became tatars. When they became buddhist, they were gone too religious and became almost like tibets/ manchus.
 
I think now they are trying christianity. will see what would happen. Maybe Mongols go like S.koreans.....
 
 
for sure they like to try religion whatever suitable for the time. I believe Mongols will not became muslim now. It is not good image now because of islamic terrorism. Mongols know when to try what. i guess thaks t very pragmaitc approach


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  Quote barbar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Oct-2006 at 07:48

Tughluq Tomur was famous Chengis decendant who converted to Islam after gaining the power, and he was the person who managed the eastern part of Uyghur region Muslim dominated. He also supported Amir Tomur (Tomurleng) to ge t the power in Maureunnehir. As a Turkified Mongol, his role as a muslim leader can't be neglected.

As for Chengis, he was religiously very tolerant, Uyghurs (Idiqut-Buddist, Qaraxanid-Muslim) supported him just because they knew about the Chengis Yasa. However, Chaghatai was quite against the Muslims.


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  Quote borudjin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 08:02

genghis khan worshipped tenghri, therefore he was a tenghriist. isnt it interesting that there are 99 different names for tenghri, and alla(h) is another one of those names. they are kipchak words. in the quran it says that there are 99 different names for allah, it doesnt mention them tho. tenghriism existed before islam. so.... gasp.... the arabs copied the kipchaks. like omg. read murad adji http://adji.ru

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  Quote toyomotor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Jan-2014 at 12:24
Originally posted by Tipu Sultan

who does not know the cruel king chengiz khan but many believe that he was a muslim,but he was not.the <span ="highlight">mongols</span>
were tribal warriors and descended from the steeps of central asia and
they were fierce warriors,initially they were opponents to islam and
they plundered the then muslim capital of baghadad and dragged the
caliph of islam outside and killed him under the hoofs of their horses
when they captured bagahad but within 100 years after this event they
met their first defeat at the hands of the mamluks of egypt who were
muslims and slowly they bowed to the superiority of islam and became
muslims.


Rubbish!!!
The Mongols showed themselves to be very tolerant when it came to religion. The allowed Muslim and Nestorian Christians to actively practice and recruit in their areas of control. Some of the Mongols adopted the new religions. No way did they bow to Islam!
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