Finest Army of the 20th Century

Bryan wrote: And what about the American Army?  U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! Well, maybe it's not up there because friend Paul doesn't particularly care for the US much (from personal observations, no offense intended), hmm? Bah, out of what is up there, I think I'll go with... eeni-meenie-minie-moe... erm, Israel.

Ah but disliking with Neo-Conservatism and me not looking at the past objectively are two different things. (actually maybe not isn't creating a fictional highly patriotic past for mass consumption a Neo-Conservative founding principle?). The reason the US is not there is because each army has a date, nobody who mentions the US has put a date yet. Secondly most of the date correspond to the army in question fought and defeated a superior opposition. The only major war the US has had in the 20th century is WWII and they outnumbered the German's at least 5/1 so it can't count.

 

mmm I considerer that the american army in gulf war was the finest by equipment and training. But if u consider the "art" of the generals and the bravery of soldiers i ll go for the 1940 wermacht.

Originally posted by Paul The only major war the US has had in the 20th century is WWII and they outnumbered the German's at least 5/1 so it can't count.

what about the pacific theater?

Israel Army and the US Army.

The German's lost pathetically to the US at the Battle of the Bulge. Peopel say the US had a poorly trained Army, but the German's did horrible at the Battle of the Bulge. They couldn't even take Bastogne...which was defended by gravely outnumbered and totally surrounded US troops.

those claim the US only won when they had numbers....but the battle of the Bulge proves that totally wrong.

Wait the US doesn't count for World War II but the Red Army does? 

I understand your dislike of the Neo Conservative movement(I recommend "the Power of Nightmares" a superb BBC documentaries) but thats no reason to ignore the US.  Also why on Earth is the Pasradan up there? 

Yes, friend Paul. I think there are some sound arguments there. I myself consider the US army of WW2 only the 3rd best in the era, but in a poll about best 20th century armies they should be there (and I despise neo-cons even more than you do).

Having said that, I wouldn't vote for the US army (which was very good, though) but for the Wehrmacht. Outnumbered, outequipped and outproduced, against all odds, they managed to fight a multi-front war to the bitter end. Their extraordinary leaders, both in mid and in high-lelel commands, their will to fight to the end and their pure skill, are unmatched by any other 20th century army.

I don't hold the slightest sympathy for them (being the schweinhunde they were, having murdered millions of civilians, propagating the cruelest regime of the modern world) but they were as an army on their own league. Far away from the Red Army (#2) and US Army (#3).

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 Heh accidently voted for the Red Army 3 times. Shouldn't that not be allowed?

In a battle of 1905 war,Japanese lost more than ten thousand men in order to take a Russian stronghold in LvShun.  Russian only lost several hundred men.  God! Do you think they are the best?  Maybe their soliders at that time were good. But the general was a fool.

Recall the battle of Khakin Gol(spelling might be wrong- its in mongolia), where so many Russians died that japanese troops stepped over bodies rather than solid ground?

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I'd go for Israeli Army.  In like 7 days, it expanded nearly double of its land, and defeated 3 opponents...! 

I have been doing some thinking, the top 4 finest army in the 20th-century (in order) would be:

1.The Germans because it took pretty much the whole world to take them down and if they went one-on-one in any country at that time, they would win.

2.USA., because we survive the Cold War and we are the number one power on earth! (after the Soviet Empire fell).

3. The Soviet Union , because they were the most powerful country in Asia, and they were major threat in the Cold War.

4.Israel, is because the most powerful country in the Middle East, they have fought many different countries in the Middle East and won.

Originally posted by demon Recall the battle of Khakin Gol(spelling might be wrong- its in mongolia), where so many Russians died that japanese troops stepped over bodies rather than solid ground? ----- I'd go for Israeli Army.  In like 7 days, it expanded nearly double of its land, and defeated 3 opponents...!

The Red Army didn't suffer nearly as many casualties as the Japanese lost..the Japanese were firmly defeated.

And I voted for the IDF.