Racism towards Gypsies

Ithink in todays day and age, yes it is possible. people seem to be more open-minded and compasionate then they were a few years back, but that is just my view.

I saw/heard that first time when there whas a murder accured because of MP3-player in belgium, the murder whas a polish but the polish media and people called him as "not real pole" but a gypsie.

Then last week there whas a "gypsie" debat in my city Gent at vreemdelingencentrum (baargiekaai), i thought it will be interesting because also myself got the feeling from the polish media that gypsies where somewhat the "unwanted people" or "niggers" of europe, yeah so i thought they are somewhat what the "black" people where in USA in the 50's.

So all in all i've been there, they debated about problematics of gypsies in Europe, how they systematically genocided and discriminated by some  governments self. I couldnt listen further when a slovak gypsie showed his ID-cart where whas a remark wich meand he whas a gypsie also showed some documents that "skinhead" organisations where covered/protected by the media and the governments self todo freely what they wanted against those "gypsies" without being punished.


But also i want to hear the other part of it, so may i ask Decebal what caused you to hate gypsies? What whas the real reason behind of it?

To answer your question, I think the racism in eastern and western europe will be ended when they learn to accept "other" people as a human being too, they must get over their "inferior complexes" and a good education.

I too never really understood the european hatred of gypsies. Hope someone can help inlighten me. The last discussion I had about them was with the Polish fellow I worked for at the time. It didn't make much sense.

Edited by Dawn - 04-Jun-2006 at 01:25

I think its a vicious circle.

Gipsies follow a different way of life.This would be normal centuries ago,but it condemns them to poverty.
Poverty gives birth to illeteracy , crime and deception.
Illeteracy,crime and deception give birth to prejudice,discrimination and racism.
Racism assures maintenance of poverty and lack of education for these people.
And the circle goes on...

well,i am not sure for the solution.
Is it possible these people to be fully respected,educated and not isolated by society but in the same time to preserve their unique culture?

There are a numer of parallels between the persecution of the Gypsies in Europe and that of the Jewish people.

Edited by Komnenos - 04-Jun-2006 at 08:03

"That the newly "democratic" countries in SE Europe have taken the relationships between Gypsies and the majority population back to the Middle Ages, is somewhat indicative for the upsurge in nationalism and xenophobia on which their identities are partly built on."

you talk about "newly "democratic" countries in SE Europe" just like we talk about gypsies.

very sad, sorry

Originally posted by machine Well its pretty obvious decebel why the Gypsies stand out, you grew up around them.   As for your last statement Decebal Black people in the USA can get an education if they want one. Its the exact same as in Australia, the Aboriginals are paid to go to school yet they dont because they dont want an education, most would rather bludge off the goverment. Probably the same with Canadas natives.

And about discrimination:
"he European Court of Justice has criticised Germany for failing to transpose the EU�s Employment Framework Directive (2000/78/EC) on time. In a recent judgment, the Court found that Germany had failed to create the proper legal framework for equal treatment on the basis of religion, disability and sexual orientation. The EU legislation � dating from 2000 � should have been introduced into national law in all EU Member States by December 2003. Germany must now take the necessary steps to comply with the Directive"

http://ec.europa.eu/comm/employment_social/fundamental_rights/news/news_en.htm

discrimination is everywhere and germany is not better than romania

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/location/story.cfm?l_id=8&ObjectID=10126345




Edited by Richard XIII - 04-Jun-2006 at 10:39

I do not like people who have still closed societes.

I think the situation between Australian aboriginals and European gypsies is quite different and the two situations should not be treated as being on the same level.