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Topic: Hitler on Islam 1937 speech Posted: 20-May-2006 at 07:01 |
Hitler on Islam
When the Mohammedans attempted to penetrate beyond France
and into Central Europe during the eight century when they were driven back at
battle of Tours.Had the Arabs won this battle,the world would be Mohammedan
today.For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by sword
and subjugating all nations to that faith.The Germanic people would have become
heirs to that religion.Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic
temperament.Conquering Arabs because ot their racial inferiority would in the
long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of
the country.They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives,so that
ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans would have stood at the head of this
Mohammedan Europe.
Hitler on Islam Novembar 1937 dinner speech about nations
and religions.Present was Albert Speer chief architect of German reich
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Posted: 20-May-2006 at 07:10 |
Hitler was happy to slag off the French for their medieval achievements
at every given opportunity. I have never heard of this speech before.
His reference to the "barbaric" Charlemagne slaughtering the Saxon
prisoners is a more prominent example of his staunchly anti-French
views.
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Posted: 20-May-2006 at 08:45 |
Book is Inside the Third reich by Albert Speer
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Posted: 20-May-2006 at 08:56 |
More propaganda oozing out of National Socialist delusion.
Charlemagne was a Frank. He was more German than Herr Schickelgruber.
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Posted: 20-May-2006 at 15:03 |
we all know that Hitler surely respected Islam more than Judaism
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Posted: 20-May-2006 at 15:40 |
Originally posted by TheDiplomat
we all know that Hitler surely respected Islam more than Judaism |
The Nazis had no more respect for Islam than Wahabbis have respect for Christianity.
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Posted: 21-May-2006 at 06:49 |
Originally posted by pikeshot1600
Originally posted by TheDiplomat
we all know that Hitler surely respected Islam more than Judaism |
The Nazis had no more respect for Islam than Wahabbis have respect for Christianity.
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wahabbi's dont even have respect to Islam or his holy caliphs and even PROPHET MOHAMMED PBUH's grave, house!! Anyway i agree somewhat with you ;)
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Posted: 21-May-2006 at 10:46 |
That "theory" is nothing to be amazed about when looking at
dictatorships. I could have invented such a thought from no previous
experience on the subject. This seems like an impro-speech between two
cozy nazis zipping on wine and looking out the window onto the Alps
while pondering on ideas how to kill as many people as profitably as
possible.
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Posted: 24-May-2006 at 23:30 |
Im not sure what Hitler thought of Islam, but i know Himmler was fond of it. He considered Islam a soldiers religion, he even had a Muslim (recruits from the Balkans) SS unit called the Handschar Division, but they were sh*t. More of a police unit.
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Posted: 25-May-2006 at 08:34 |
Actually not Handzar division was among bravest divisions of SS
History was rather strange and complex here
While chetniks Serbs were slaughtering Bosniaks in Eastern Bosnia 1941
, German soldiers some reported to Himmler that those people are among
most aryan and many have nice qualities and are being butchered by
Serbs.So, Himmler went to Bosnia in 1942 and true there were lot of
Bosniaks who were quite tall had fair hair and were blonde.So, he
decided for first time that Muslims will be part of this SS
Division.They were send on eastern front in Stalingrad worst front by
the way and even Russians were admiring them, because they would pray
in the morning and later fight whole night,.They as Muslims received
many iron cross decorations for their bravery this is not first time
Bosniaks received that.In world war 1 Bosniaks were among bravest of
Franz Joseph troops.So eventually Germans were defeated inRussia.
Bravest period among SS Handzar is famous mutiny of Villefrance de
Rorgue France the first free town of occupied Europe.Mutiny was
long time brewing, and many Handzar soldiers didnt wanna fight
now Brits ,as they were bound for English channel.Many said to
comandant that they wanna fight but back in Bosnia, where chetniks were
killing local Bosniak civilian.But their wishes were denied!
What happened next is one of those secrets of world war 2.First
comandeer of German insulted them , called them backward and then he
spited on Quran and took of fes.Bosniaks couldnt take it anymoire, some
30 of Bosniaks surprised larger German troops and took whole town in 24
hours of fighting for town of Villefranche de Rourgue.
After that they managed to hold on to town for three days and outcome
is all too familiar.Rebels were shot on spot, those that
survived 3 day fighting!, But still today there is monument to
their bravery in same town above
So, no, you are not right Bosniaks were brave soldiers
Edited by violentjack - 25-May-2006 at 08:46
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Posted: 25-May-2006 at 08:42 |
the only reason hittler said that was because muslim(almost only arab) don't like jew eather.
thats what i think
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Posted: 25-May-2006 at 08:52 |
Read
post above, no it was Because contraty to many beliefs, some Bosniaks
especially those in eastern Bosnia are very fair haired and look
like Goths or something.We ordinary Bosniaks with grey hair and average
feature call them Swedes, because they look like Swedes,extra tall and
look like Swedes
Bosniaks are divided into
Illyrians descendant
Kelts
Slavs
Goths
And many other tribes that passed through Bosnia
Goths settled what is now eastern Bosnia, and later Sasen miners from
Sas region of Germany came into Bosnia came during big search for
gold back in 14 century.Some assimilated and adopted later
Islam and Bosniak nation.Most of them live today in Eastern Bosnia.Some
remained Catholic and are Croat today.
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Posted: 25-May-2006 at 08:55 |
Here is example of Bosnian village those two in set are brothers
Some have blonde hair, some grey and some are more dark.
http://bhstring.net/tuzlauslikama/tuzlarije/forum.htm
Click that link and you will see
Sorry click above Tuzlarije where it says
And then you shall see posjeta Cerskoj i Srebrenici, which means visit to Cerska and Srebrenica
Click that and you will see nice collection of Bosniaks, especially litlle kids, and you will see some Swedes
Here is one such pic
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Posted: 25-May-2006 at 09:05 |
Those two on pic are brothers.The fair heaired ones.Third boy look much different
Some Bosniaks are darker like Italians, Illyrian descent probably
But those two brothers surely display strong Gothic descent
That is why SS Handzar was established, German soldiers couldnt watch
people like those being butchered and they told Himmler.It has nothing
to do with Arabs, Islam or hatred of Jews
Bosnians are most tolerant in area, they saved Jewish holy book called
Hagadah written in 1333 and saved many Jews from Nazi in Sarajevo
, hiding them in mosques and such
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Posted: 25-May-2006 at 20:50 |
Originally posted by TheDiplomat
we all know that Hitler surely respected Islam more than Judaism |
Didn't Hitler respect almost anything more than Judaism?
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Posted: 26-May-2006 at 07:12 |
You have come to my point
For Hitler, Islam did not meananything special
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Posted: 26-May-2006 at 07:35 |
Violentjack's stuff about the Bosnian SS troops was very interesting. I'd never heard of that before.
Thanks.
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Posted: 26-May-2006 at 10:31 |
the only reason hittler said that was because muslim(almost only arab) don't like jew eather. |
At that time, tension between Arabs and imigrant jews in palestine was rising, especially after the riots of 1936. So hitler clearly favored the arabs due to his hatred of Jews. Not that he's fond of the religion, which i doubt very much.
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Posted: 26-May-2006 at 13:29 |
Perhaps he wasn't badmouthing the Arabs because he wasn't at war with them yet and had no reason to alienate them just yet.
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Posted: 26-May-2006 at 14:55 |
A marriage of convenience, nothing more, arranged in the desperate attempt of both sides to find allies for a desperate cause. Nevertheless, it has strange implications for the present, where the borders between "Anti-Zionism" and "Anti-Semitism' sometimes become blurred. (even with people on the European left who should know better.)
An interesting article about the history of 20th century Islamic "Anti-Semtism" discloses the bizarre but close relationship between the Nazis and the notorious Grand-Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini.
"Islamic antisemitism and its Nazi Roots"
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