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Hitler on Islam
When the Mohammedans attempted to penetrate beyond France and into Central Europe during the eight century when they were driven back at battle of Tours.Had the Arabs won this battle,the world would be Mohammedan today.For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by sword and subjugating all nations to that faith.The Germanic people would have become heirs to that religion.Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament.Conquering Arabs because ot their racial inferiority would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country.They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives,so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans would have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Europe.
 
Hitler on Islam Novembar 1937 dinner speech about nations and religions.Present was Albert Speer chief architect of German reich
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  Quote Constantine XI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2006 at 07:10
Hitler was happy to slag off the French for their medieval achievements at every given opportunity. I have never heard of this speech before. His reference to the "barbaric" Charlemagne slaughtering the Saxon prisoners is a more prominent example of his staunchly anti-French views.
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  Quote violentjack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2006 at 08:45
WinkBook is Inside the Third reich by  Albert Speer


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  Quote pikeshot1600 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2006 at 08:56
More propaganda oozing out of National Socialist delusion.
 
Charlemagne was a Frank.  He was more German than Herr Schickelgruber.  LOL
 
 
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  Quote TheDiplomat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2006 at 15:03
we all know that Hitler surely respected  Islam more than Judaism

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  Quote pikeshot1600 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2006 at 15:40
Originally posted by TheDiplomat

we all know that Hitler surely respected  Islam more than Judaism
 
The Nazis had no more respect for Islam than Wahabbis have respect for Christianity.
 
 
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  Quote DayI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2006 at 06:49
Originally posted by pikeshot1600

Originally posted by TheDiplomat

we all know that Hitler surely respected  Islam more than Judaism
 
The Nazis had no more respect for Islam than Wahabbis have respect for Christianity.
 
 
wahabbi's dont even have respect to Islam or his holy caliphs and even PROPHET MOHAMMED PBUH's grave, house!!

Anyway i agree somewhat with you ;)
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  Quote Kalevipoeg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2006 at 10:46
That "theory" is nothing to be amazed about when looking at dictatorships. I could have invented such a thought from no previous experience on the subject. This seems like an impro-speech between two cozy nazis zipping on wine and looking out the window onto the Alps while pondering on ideas how to kill as many people as profitably as possible.Wink
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Im not sure what Hitler thought of Islam, but i know Himmler was fond of it. He considered Islam a soldiers religion, he even had a Muslim (recruits from the Balkans) SS unit called the Handschar Division, but they were sh*t. More of a police unit.
 
 
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  Quote violentjack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-May-2006 at 08:34
Actually not Handzar division was among bravest divisions of SS

History was rather strange and complex here
While chetniks Serbs were slaughtering Bosniaks in Eastern Bosnia 1941 , German soldiers some reported to Himmler that those people are among most aryan and many have nice qualities and are being butchered by Serbs.So, Himmler went to Bosnia in 1942 and true there were lot of Bosniaks who were quite tall had fair hair and were blonde.So, he decided for first time that Muslims will be part of this SS Division.They were send on eastern front in Stalingrad worst front by the way and even Russians were admiring them, because they would pray in the morning and later fight whole night,.They as Muslims received many iron cross decorations for their bravery this is not first time Bosniaks received that.In world war 1 Bosniaks were among bravest of Franz Joseph troops.So eventually Germans were defeated inRussia.

Bravest period among SS Handzar is famous mutiny of Villefrance de Rorgue  France the first free town of occupied Europe.Mutiny was long time brewing, and many Handzar  soldiers didnt wanna fight now Brits ,as they were bound for English channel.Many said to comandant that they wanna fight but back in Bosnia, where chetniks were killing local Bosniak civilian.But their wishes were denied!

What happened next is one of those secrets of world war 2.First comandeer of German insulted them , called them backward and then he spited on Quran and took of fes.Bosniaks couldnt take it anymoire, some 30 of Bosniaks surprised larger German troops and took whole town in 24 hours of fighting for town of Villefranche de Rourgue.

After that they managed to hold on to town for three days and outcome is  all too  familiar.Rebels were shot on spot, those that survived  3 day fighting!, But still today there is monument to their bravery in same town above

So, no, you are not right Bosniaks were brave soldiers




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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-May-2006 at 08:42
the only reason hittler said that was because muslim(almost only arab) don't like jew eather.
 
thats what i think
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  Quote violentjack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-May-2006 at 08:52
WinkRead post above, no it was Because contraty to many beliefs, some Bosniaks especially those in  eastern Bosnia are very fair haired and look like Goths or something.We ordinary Bosniaks with grey hair and average feature call them Swedes, because they look like Swedes,extra tall and look like Swedes

Bosniaks are divided into
Illyrians descendant
Kelts
Slavs
Goths
And many other tribes that passed through Bosnia

Goths settled what is now eastern Bosnia, and later Sasen miners from Sas region of Germany came into Bosnia  came during big search for gold back in  14 century.Some  assimilated and adopted later Islam and Bosniak nation.Most of them live today in Eastern Bosnia.Some remained Catholic and are Croat today.


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  Quote violentjack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-May-2006 at 08:55
Here is example of Bosnian village those two in set are brothers

Some have blonde hair, some grey and some are more dark.

http://bhstring.net/tuzlauslikama/tuzlarije/forum.htm

Click that link and you will see

Sorry click above Tuzlarije where it says

And then you shall see posjeta Cerskoj i Srebrenici, which means visit to Cerska and Srebrenica

Click that and you will see nice collection of Bosniaks, especially litlle kids, and you will see some SwedesWink

Here is one such pic



 



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  Quote violentjack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-May-2006 at 09:05
Those two on pic  are brothers.The fair heaired ones.Third boy look much different

Some Bosniaks are darker like Italians, Illyrian descent probably
But those two brothers surely display strong Gothic  descent

That is why SS Handzar was established, German soldiers couldnt watch people like those being butchered and they told Himmler.It has nothing to do with Arabs, Islam or hatred of Jews

Bosnians are most tolerant in area, they saved Jewish holy book called Hagadah written in 1333  and saved many Jews from Nazi in Sarajevo , hiding them in mosques and such




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  Quote Genghis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-May-2006 at 20:50
Originally posted by TheDiplomat

we all know that Hitler surely respected  Islam more than Judaism
 
Didn't Hitler respect almost anything more than Judaism?
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  Quote TheDiplomat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 07:12
You have come to my pointApprove
 
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  Quote gcle2003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 07:35
Violentjack's stuff about the Bosnian SS troops was very interesting. I'd never heard of that before.
 
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  Quote Aktufe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 10:31
the only reason hittler said that was because muslim(almost only arab) don't like jew eather.
 
At that time, tension between Arabs and imigrant jews in palestine was rising, especially after the riots of 1936. So hitler clearly favored the arabs due to his hatred of Jews. Not that he's fond of the religion, which i doubt very much.


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  Quote Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 13:29
Perhaps he wasn't badmouthing the Arabs because he wasn't at war with them yet and had no reason to alienate them just yet.
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  Quote Komnenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 14:55
A marriage of convenience, nothing more, arranged in the desperate attempt of both sides to find allies for a desperate cause. Nevertheless, it has strange implications for the present, where the borders between "Anti-Zionism" and "Anti-Semitism' sometimes become blurred. (even with people on the European left who should know better.)

An interesting article about the history of 20th century Islamic "Anti-Semtism" discloses the bizarre but close relationship between the Nazis and the notorious Grand-Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini.

"Islamic antisemitism and its Nazi Roots"
    

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