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    Posted: 14-May-2006 at 02:49

Originally posted by malizai_

Most influential would be british, we speak in its tongue on AE.

 

You are right, we speak English on AE, but this is due to USA hegemony after WW2 not British.

 

 



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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-May-2006 at 05:32
Alexander 3 is Macedonian.not greek.
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The Greatest Empire you ask eh?  The ideal greatest empire of the world is the one empire that effects the world in a positive way, respects and recognizes the rights of all nations under its wing, and lives longer than the history itself.

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One thing I would like to mention is the fact that most westerners think that the world and everything in it circles around them and their cultures... and I believe it is because most of them are not educated enough regarding other possibilities and cultures. When you think about nations in the world and think about how many nations mother tongue is English, I promise you that you won't be able to find many nations... Just a thought 

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2006 at 13:39
yes like the macedonian empire


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Originally posted by Leonardo

Originally posted by malizai_

Most influential would be british, we speak in its tongue on AE.

You are right, we speak English on AE, but this is due to USA hegemony after WW2 not British
 
Umm, the whole ex-Empire speaks English because of Britian. And the USA is....an ex-colony of Britian.
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Ottoman Empire is best
Gokturk Empire
Hun Empire(Asia, Europe)
Khazar Empire
 
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Originally posted by makedon

yes like the macedonian empire


"Alexander and the Greeks,except Lacaedemonians"

Alexander offers Shields to Acropolis ,Athens after the battle of Granicus-334 BC.

U are obviously new in the forum-look at the rules ,and stop propaganda plz.

Anyway ,wellcome and take this entry as a chance to widden your point of view and thought.
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The Mughal Empire of India which was established by Babur and ruled by Irano-Turkic groups until its demise in 1858. The Mughals were the richest rulers in the world during their time, and the monarchs of Europe and the Middle East were envious of their [Mughal] power and prestige. It was a center for Islam and Hinduism, where Arabs, Turks, Persians, and Indians met, traded, and made contributions which have lasted to this day, i.e. the "Arabic-Hindi numeral system" and the number "zero" - it's quite funny how Mughal rule in India gets overlooked considering that it has such a rich history.
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Originally posted by BlueDragonRider7

One thing I would like to mention is the fact that most westerners think that the world and everything in it circles around them and their cultures... and I believe it is because most of them are not educated enough regarding other possibilities and cultures. When you think about nations in the world and think about how many nations mother tongue is English, I promise you that you won't be able to find many nations... Just a thought 

 
Yes it does evolve around Europeans. Because Europeans and people of European descent are the forebearers of the modern world, IN ALL ASPECTS.
Of course im not saying Europeans have always been the top dog, because back in the day the playing field was quite even.
Then Europeans rose to be the greatest. Arts, technology, ideology, science everything, its all European in origin.
The 2 greatest wars the world has ever seen have focused on Europe.
Its the truth dude, you cant deny it. For example look at the Middle East, its only been in recent years that they have decided to adopt our ways.
Sure the Ottomans were quite great, but they fell behind.
 
 
 
 
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Yes it does evolve around Europeans. Because Europeans and people of European descent are the forebearers of the modern world, IN ALL ASPECTS.
Of course im not saying Europeans have always been the top dog, because back in the day the playing field was quite even.
Then Europeans rose to be the greatest. Arts, technology, ideology, science everything, its all European in origin.
The 2 greatest wars the world has ever seen have focused on Europe.
Its the truth dude, you cant deny it. For example look at the Middle East, its only been in recent years that they have decided to adopt our ways.
Sure the Ottomans were quite great, but they fell behind. 
 
 
 
 
hmmmm
 
intersting  LOL
 
what do you mean by " ALL ASPECTS"?
 
and what do you mean by "all European in orgin" in the above statment ?
 


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@Makedon

Yes you are right. And Athenians were not Greeks and Spartans too. LOL

History lessons never harmed anyone. Wink

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Originally posted by Master_Blaster

The Mughal Empire of India which was established by Babur and ruled by Irano-Turkic groups until its demise in 1858. The Mughals were the richest rulers in the world during their time, and the monarchs of Europe and the Middle East were envious of their [Mughal] power and prestige. It was a center for Islam and Hinduism, where Arabs, Turks, Persians, and Indians met, traded, and made contributions which have lasted to this day, i.e. the "Arabic-Hindi numeral system" and the number "zero" - it's quite funny how Mughal rule in India gets overlooked considering that it has such a rich history.
 
Uhhh, the Mughal Empire can be considered to have started in 1526, while the "Arab" numerals came from India in the 9th and 10th centuries. It's not that the Mughal empire did not have its merits, but focusing on it to the detriment of other Indian empires or kingdoms loses sight of the picture. We could equally look at the Mauryas, Guptas, Cholas, Harsha's empire, Pallavas, Vijayanagar, Delhi Sultanate and even Indus Valley civilization for their own original contributions to the world heritage. Let alone the other hundreds of flourishing Indian kingdoms...
 
The whole question of "Greatest Empire" is in my opinion moot, because of the very subjective nature of the criteria involved.
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Originally posted by machine

Originally posted by BlueDragonRider7

One thing I would like to mention is the fact that most westerners think that the world and everything in it circles around them and their cultures... and I believe it is because most of them are not educated enough regarding other possibilities and cultures. When you think about nations in the world and think about how many nations mother tongue is English, I promise you that you won't be able to find many nations... Just a thought 

 
Yes it does evolve around Europeans. Because Europeans and people of European descent are the forebearers of the modern world, IN ALL ASPECTS.
Of course im not saying Europeans have always been the top dog, because back in the day the playing field was quite even.
Then Europeans rose to be the greatest. Arts, technology, ideology, science everything, its all European in origin.
The 2 greatest wars the world has ever seen have focused on Europe.
Its the truth dude, you cant deny it. For example look at the Middle East, its only been in recent years that they have decided to adopt our ways.
Sure the Ottomans were quite great, but they fell behind.
 
 
 
 
 
But that would not have been possible without the "empire"  of "Al-Andalus (711-1492) and that was Muslim and Arab influenced. Almost 800 years of deveopment in ALL ASPECTS while Europe languished in the Dark Ages. You'll find that many of the things we consider European had their birth in this little corner of the world and were developed under Arab- Morrish influence. Two examples are the first university in Europe at Salamanca and the first conservatory of music at Crdoba.
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Originally posted by machine

Originally posted by BlueDragonRider7

One thing I would like to mention is the fact that most westerners think that the world and everything in it circles around them and their cultures... and I believe it is because most of them are not educated enough regarding other possibilities and cultures. When you think about nations in the world and think about how many nations mother tongue is English, I promise you that you won't be able to find many nations... Just a thought 

 
Yes it does evolve around Europeans. Because Europeans and people of European descent are the forebearers of the modern world, IN ALL ASPECTS.
Of course im not saying Europeans have always been the top dog, because back in the day the playing field was quite even.
Then Europeans rose to be the greatest. Arts, technology, ideology, science everything, its all European in origin.
The 2 greatest wars the world has ever seen have focused on Europe.
Its the truth dude, you cant deny it. For example look at the Middle East, its only been in recent years that they have decided to adopt our ways.
Sure the Ottomans were quite great, but they fell behind.
 
 
 
 
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Inuyasha. While the role of Muslim Spain in the development of Europe was important, it must not be overestimated. Western Europe did have its own civilization and its own intellectual life, based in monasteries and seminars, which strove to preserve many of the works and culture of the classical age. Also, the so-called "Byzantine" empire probably had an even more important, and more unrecognized role in the development of Modern Europe.
 
The Dark Ages is a very misleading term, which was invented by 18th century enlightenment philosophers, as a reaction to the role of the Church, which had dominated that era. Western Europe was certainly behind the Islamic world until the 13th century or so, but that doesn't mean it did not have its own cultural development and its own achievements. We must recognize but not exaggerate the role that Muslim Spain played in the history of Europe.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2006 at 04:01
*Inuyasha*
 
Yerrrr i said modern. Cars, Trains, Electricity, Phones, aeroplanes, science, astronomy. Everyone has been influenced modern/ancient in one way or another.
 
But the above that i mentioned were European in origin, while we advanced your little corner of the earth did not contribute to that.
 
Dont knock the dark ages, because youve spent many years in them.
 
LOLLOLLOLLOL 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Maybe you should write book about inventions by Middle Easterners for the past 500 years, it will be very short.LOLClap

 
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machine, you must be one of those ignorants that thinks the world got where it is becase of the west.

Start a thread about your western superiority theory and see how far your assumptions can go.Please Smile



Edited by Leonidas - 20-May-2006 at 08:42
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