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cg rommel
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Topic: What is the bravest act in history? Posted: 16-Dec-2005 at 10:17 |
Originally posted by Richard XIII
Battle of Thermopylae
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i agree.....
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Posted: 16-Dec-2005 at 19:25 |
Not all brave acts are great military campaigns... This was one of the bravest moments in recent memory...
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Posted: 16-Dec-2005 at 19:33 |
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I agree. How about the Buddhist monks that set themselves on fire to protest the Vietnam government's anti-Buddhist policies:
While he was burning alive, he did nothing but sit there in quiet meditation. The power of the mind is amazing.
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Mass Murderers Agree: Gun Control Works!
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Posted: 16-Dec-2005 at 19:45 |
As much as I admire the mans ability to remain seated and not scream like mad, I cant respect the fact he's set himself on fire, there are surely better ways to get a point across than suicide by burning. Thats just stupidity.
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Posted: 16-Dec-2005 at 21:25 |
The Polish armies of; Somosierra(1808), 1830 Uprising, 1863 Uprising, Westerplatte(1939), Monte Cassino(1944).
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Posted: 17-Dec-2005 at 03:48 |
Battle of Karbala in Iraq 680 A.D,between Husien(grandson of Muhammed) with 72 men against a massive Umayyad army 30,000 men under Omer Bin Sa'ad Bin Abi Waqas.
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"May the eyes of cowards never sleep"
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Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 21:04 |
I got one incredible act of bravery. In 1800 at the battle of Hohenlinden single polish uhlan, private Trandowski of 6th Company was promissed a bottle of good wine if he brings a prisoner. So he set at the gallop and "snatched" the Prince Lichtenstein who stood in front of Austrian troops. Austrians were shooting as Trandowski was coming but after he captured the prince they were afraid to shoot because could kill the prince
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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 15:55 |
LOL I acctually never heard of that story.
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Posted: 01-Jan-2006 at 06:51 |
i think you all should read the Gallipoli war in WW1...
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JASWANT GARH, India, Nov 7, 2002 - Forty years after his death, an Indian army rifleman has been promoted to major general' and is still believed to command' troops guarding the dizzy heights of India's eastern frontiers with China.
Rifleman Jaswant Singh Rawat of the Fourth Garhwal Rifles infantry regiment is the only soldier in the long history of the Indian army who is known to have risen through the ranks after his death.
Rawat remained at his post at an altitude of about 10,000 feet (3,000 meters) and held back advancing Chinese troops for three days single-handedly before succumbing to an enemy bullet during the bloody winter war with China in 1962 along the northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh.
The rifleman may have died, but his heroics have not gone unrecognised -- Rawat gets an unofficial promotion at regular intervals, with his rank today being that of a major general.
The post that he held to repulse the Chinese troops has been renamed Jaswant Garh in recognition of his courage.
Rawat's act of bravado has earned him a distinct place among all ranks of the federal army manning the unfenced 1,030 kilometer (650 mile) Sino-Indian border -- for many he is like a guardian angel protecting the frontiers.
Myth, folklore, and superstitious beliefs are so strong among the soldiers that the battle site was converted into a Hindu temple with troops now giving Rawat the status of Baba' or saint.
"Army personnel passing by this route, be it a general or an ordinary soldier, make it a point to pay their respects at the shrine of Jaswant Singh or else they invoke his curse," said footsoldier Ram Narayan Singh.
"A major general once refused to pray at his shrine while crossing the area, saying this was just a superstition, but he met with a mysterious road accident a few kilometers away from here and died."
The Garhwal Rifles are today deployed on India's western borders, but the unit makes it a point to keep at least half-a-dozen personnel here to take care of Rawat as if he were alive.
"For us he is immortal and continues to protect and bless us in this treacherous mountain terrain," said a Garhwal Rifles soldier posted at Rawat's shrine.
He has an orderly who cooks for him daily, makes his bed, irons his clothes and polishes his boots, while guards patrol his shrine around the clock.
"Each morning his bed is found crumpled and his freshly ironed clothes lie crushed on the floor," another soldier said. "He is here all the time although we cannot see him."
According to locals and soldiers posted near Jaswant Garh, Rawat's spirit roams the area and he comes to their dreams and solves their woes and miseries.
"The respect that Rawat commands even after his death is something very rare in the Indian army," Major Jaideep Ghosh told AFP.
"I have never seen anything like this before anywhere of a martyred soldier still influencing the lives of the troops."
Legend has it that the Chinese troops after killing Rawat beheaded him and carried his torso as a trophy after he had stood alone against them, firing from a .303 rifle.
After the ceasefire, the Chinese commander, impressed by Rawat's bravery, returned the head along with a brass bust of the gallant soldier. The bust is now installed at the site of the battle.
"A nation that does not honour its dead warriors will perish," an army commander remarked as soldiers lit earthen lamps at nightfall to keep Rawat's memories alive.
By AFP/Zarir Hussain
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Chandra Singh Garhwali was born on the 24th of December 1891 in Meason, Patti Chauthan, Tehsil Thalisain DistrictGarhwal. While his early education was at home, his real teacher was the rich experience that he gathered in his wide and varied travels, his service in the army and the long terms of imprisonment which he faced with care courage and fortitude in his fight for the freedom of the country.
When Chandra Singh Garhwali first met Mahatma Gandhi, the freedom struggle and the rising sense of nationalism in the country, had already began to make a deep impression on his mind. It is said that at a public meeting in June 1929 at Bageshwar, Almora the army cap which chandra Singh Garhwali was wearing attracted the attentionof Gandhiji who remarked that he was not afraid of the army cap Chandra Singh Garhwali replied by pointing out that,. if he so wished, Gandhiji could change the cap. When Gandhiji presented him with a khadi topi, the soldier pledged to redeem the honour of the topi one day.
Indeed, the opportunity to do so presented itself only too soon. On 20th April, 1930 a civil disobedience movement commenced in the North-West frontier province under the leadership of Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan and a programme of demonstration and Satyagrah was planned for 23rd April 1930 in Peshawar. The British Government in its eagerness to suppress this movement of the Pathans at any cost, decided to deploy the aarmy. Chandra Singh Garhwali and his men of the Garhwal Rifles quietly resolved to resist any order of their British Commander to fire upon unarmed people.
In a 23rd April, 1930 thousands of Pathans and gathered in front of the Kissakhani Bazar Police Chowki in Peshawar and the national flag was flying in their midst. The men of the Garhwal Rifles stood before the Pathans and hundreds of people were looking on from their houses and roof tops. The British Captain warned the non-violent demonstrators to disperse but it had no effect on them. When, in a rush of anger he shouted, 'Garhwali three rounds fire', an equally firm voice was heardsaying' Garhwali cease fire', and the Garhwali soldiers lowered their rifles to the ground. Chandra Singh Garhwali's voice rang out once again to declare that they would not fire upon unarmed people even if the Captain were to shoot them down. It was an amazing display of courage. An extraordinary moment in the history of our freedom struggle.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 16:35 |
The Sacrifice of the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae gave Greece the time and inspiration it needed to ultimately defeat the persians at the Battle of Salamina and Battle of Platea. Therefore, what the Spartans did was not stupid, but indeed heroic and brave. They thought not for themselves but of Greece.
The noble fight that the Souliotes of Epiros had against Ali Pasha and the varied forces of the Ottoman empire as well as their last stand, especially with the Dance of the Women finging themselves into the sea with their infants so as to avoid molestation by the Turks, went on to inspire the Greek War of Independent. Therefore, this again was truly heroic and noble.
Then the Battle of Crete where simple Greek Cretan delayed and slaughtered the Nazi, and thus delaying Hitler's march into Moscow in the Summer, but putting it off to the witner that cost Hitler the war on the Eastern Front, was again truly noble and heroic.
Finally, the Fall of Constandinople in 1453 was truly a heroic battle. The Greeks knew of the Turkish Cannons, but faced them anyway, and repelled the invading turks for several months, but then, as at Thermopylae, a traitor was present that opened the back door and the Jannissaries swrmed in and took the Holy City. The Emperor never stopped, nor did his army, until the turks vanquished him and cut off his head and the City fell. However, this story inspired and continues to inspire Greek s and non-Greeks that no matter how overwhelming the odds, no matter how ruthless the adversary it is better to die with your sworn in your hand then to submit to tyranny and oppression.
The Greeks lived as free men and they died as free men. if that is not noble and heroic then all of you are truly lost.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 16:53 |
Top 3 picks: Thermopylae Fall of Constantinople perhaps the Battle of Culloden-where a Scottish army armed with medieval style weapons fought a modern British army
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 18:51 |
The Jackobite's at Culloden were armed with Muskets,there kinda of integral to the Highland charge!not many muskets going around in the medieval era. The 'Modern British army' you speak of was made up mainly Scotsmen,with English and a few Germans thrown in,but the bulk were Scottish.Cullloded was a battle between Scotsmen. The British army consisted of, English Cavalry (with a few Germans) and a English Infantry battalion (one third of which were Lowland Scots and 600 Highland Clansmen). 1 Battalion of Infantry made up of Highlanders from the Clans,Campbell,Munro,Ross and Sutherland. 3 Battalions of Infantry made up of Lowland Scots from the Clans,Cathcart,Colville,Sempill,Kur and Cunningham(Artillery). Jackobite army consisted of,mainly Scottish Highlanders (two thirds of the army) with around 800 Frenchmen and the French Irish Brigade (Exiled Irishmen fighting for France).There was even a Regiment of English Infantry fighting for the Bonny Prince but they were being used as a rear guard and werent present at culloden. The Highland Clans in the Jackobite army are too numerous to mention,basically its all the rest . It takes Bravery to do a maneuver like the Highland Charge, after all you have to run into the first volley of musket shot, but i feel it was braver of the Scottish Redcoats (whooo,thats gonna sting ) who had to defend against the charge. To defend against a Highland charge the Redcoats were trained in a new maneuver which took a hell of a lot of bravery and discipline. Because the Highlander's Targe provided good protection infront of the man (his chest area) he could easily defend himself against a Bayonet wielding redcoat directly in front of himself.Whilst the Redcoats Bayonet is bouncing harmlessly of his Targe he can chop you in half with his Claymore. To counter the Highland Charge the Redcoats didnt fight the man directly in front of themselves!they relied on the man to there left to kill the Highlander in front of them!The man to the left of you can Bayonet your Highlander whilst you do the same for the man to your right. Now that took balls! It worked too as there was only 50 Redcoat deaths and another 254 wounded,not bad for ending a Rebellion.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 21:27 |
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Absolutely not. The British bumbled everything. The Turks won, but it wasn't a horribly brave act. That's what they got for playing Winston Churchill thirty years before his time came.
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Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 22:24 |
Add Bastogne to the list! Go 101st!
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Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 02:53 |
Turkish İndependence Battle...
My secon choice is Manizkert,50000 Turks(mostly Turkmen) against nearly 200000 bryzantines...And Turan tactic was good used by Alparslan Khan
Pecheneg Turks in bryzantine army joined the Turk army.
Other choice to Gallipoli,both sides were heroic.
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Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 10:44 |
bravest act i think is roosevelt going along with the rough riders in the spanish-american war
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Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 13:20 |
Originally posted by Turk Nomad
Turkish İndependence Battle...
My secon choice is Manizkert,50000 Turks(mostly Turkmen) against nearly 200000 bryzantines...And Turan tactic was good used by Alparslan Khan
Pecheneg Turks in bryzantine army joined the Turk army.
Other choice to Gallipoli,both sides were heroic. |
I believe th stupidity of the Byzantine Army had more to do with Manzikirt than the skill of the Turkish Army.
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