Government and Power in the First Bulgarian Empire

Originally posted by DayI Originally posted by NikeBG Originally posted by Anton If some suppose they were of tribes close to Slavs, I am sure you heard about those theories... Well, honestly, I don't remember hearing such theories so far. I remember about theories that Slavs actually don't exist and are a manipulation, created by Russia, but that the Bulgars were Slavs - none so far. Do you know any author or site, which claims such a thing? Eventually a link? Btw, Kavkan (welcome to the forum), IIRC, цар is derived from цьсар, not from kaiser. The very sound of the German Kaiser is quite far both from цар and from цьсар. I am not sure, however, is it derived from the Latin Caesar or from the Greek kesar, as (IMHO) it's equally close by sound to both. Another interesting example is the more modern Slavic "title" "kral", which means exactly "king", used mainly for Western kings. IIRC, it's derived from the Slavic form of the name of Charlemagne - "Karl". However, I'm not entirely sure about that since the first example, which I remember, of "kral" being used is around the middle/end of the 14th c. - Krali Marko/Marko Kraljevic, which is quite far from Charlemagne's times. "Kral" is also king in Turkish, its also "kyraly" in Hungarian.

Originally posted by es_bih They were able to create states of their own in other places. Croatia had its own kingdom. Bosnia had its own kingdom. Serbia had its own kingdom. Montenegro as well. Poland did too. The Bohemian duchy, virtually independent. A lot rather sucessful examples of slavic states, origininated by slavs. Just because Russia and Bulgaria's majority slavic population needed some outside father figure to do so for them does not reflect the entire slavic world.

Originally posted by Anton Everybody search for long hand from Moscow  Names are: Gantcho Tsenoff, Asen Chillingirov and George Sotiroff.

I believe I have one book of Gantcho Tsenov, I might check it out. When I received it first and saw all the funny things there I just thought "Not a serious book. I'll read it for entertainment only if I have nothing else." But I guess even funny books deserve a critical reading.
And, yes, conspiracy theories seem to be quite attractive in the last few years all accross the globe. Either the Russians invented the whole Slavic world or the Americans destroyed the WTC at 9/11 themselves (or, of course, the Jews stand behind all of this). At least that gives us something more to laugh about...