northern and southern Europe

Pinguin.

This dude here is from brazil, his names Wanderlai Silva..

Im pretty sure he has some native in him, so would he be classified as White or Mestizo ?







Edited by think - 22-Oct-2006 at 11:27

Originally posted by think Pinguin. This dude here is from brazil, his names Wanderlai Silva.. Im pretty sure he has some native in him, so would he be classified as White or Mestizo ?

Originally posted by pinguin Originally posted by Mixcoatl Also the world is already overpopulated Europes not.. Just wait until natural resources run out.In the premodern age excessive population growth was corrected every few decades or so by a substinence crisis (famine, desease, war). The last time this happened in Europe was in the 1840s. Since then technological advances have made continued population growth possible. However when we'll run out of natural resources, that will end. So if we don't bring now the number of people now by getting less children, it will happen later, and in a much nastier way. � Well, I will make a politically incorrect statement here. If you want to stop population growth you have to convince those people that are reproducing out of control right now. I mean basically Arabs, South West Asians and particularly Subsaharan Africans. � Europeans can't even mantain its current populations estable, so they don't have an explossion problem. Rather, they are hardly surviving right now. � Pinguin. � � � �

Oh they're surviving fine. And their societies are still doing well. The fact that there's going to be a demand for people to come and make a living in then is hardly a bad thing for anyone.

It's a wealth thing. Once these non-europeans start catching up the west in wealth their birth-rates will drop, and when western absolute wealth starts to decline them birth rates will pick up again.

Originally posted by Mixcoatl Besides, population growth rates in Latin America are still pretty high as well.

Originally posted by pinguin Originally posted by Mixcoatl Besides, population growth rates in Latin America are still pretty high as well.   No, they are not.

Yes they are:
Argentine 0.96%
Belize 2.31%
Bolivia 1.45%
Brazil 1.04%
Chile 0.94%
Colombia 1.46%
Costa Rica 1.45%
Cuba 0.31%
Dominican Republic 1.47%
Ecuador 1.5%
El Salvador 1.72%
French Guiana 1.96%
Guatemala 2.27%
Haiti 2.3%
Honduras 2.16%
Mexico 1.16%
Nicaragua 1.89%
Panama 1.6%
Paraguay 2.45%
Peru 1.32%
Puerto Rico 0.4%
Uruguay 0.46%
Venezuela 1.38%

Not as high as Subsaharan Africa, but still pretty impressive, most are well above the growth rates of wealthier countries. Also notice that relatively wealthy countries (Argentina, Uruguay, Chile) have lower growth rates than poorer countries (Honduras, Peru, Haiti). Don't forget that if a country's population grows with 2%, there needs to be an economical growth of 2% as well in order to maintain standards of living.

What you are seeing is people not dying as yet.

Perhaps not dying. But no doubt living circumstances would be a lot better with less people. And if the population will continue to grow like that sooner or later the Maltusian trap will close.

Originally posted by pinguin Is an audi worth a child?   I have already chosen. I preffer my kids to luxury. After all, our descendents remain on the planet, and the material things can't be put on the coffin.   Pinguin

You don't have to send your Audi to school; on the other hand car mechanics can be pretty expensive these days

Oh they're surviving fine. And their societies are still doing well. The fact that there's going to be a demand for people to come and make a living in then is hardly a bad thing for anyone

You couldnt have said it more simply (its not a simple matter), but i dont agree with you..

Originally posted by pinguin Is an audi worth a child?

Of course not. But doesn't your kid deserve an Audi, if you want the best for him?

It's more like "One Audi for each kid". And then these kids go around in Audis while yours have to ride the buss.

It's about investing heavily (education mostly, which is way more expensive than cars) in the few children you get, not getting a lot of children hoping one of them will be able to afford giving you an Audi in your old age.

Originally posted by gcle2003   Is there something wrong with that? The immigrants generally get a good deal out of it too.   And of course they are mostly running away from places that have been kept economically backward by concentration on 'family values'.

Originally posted by pinguin Originally posted by Joinville Originally posted by pinguin Is an audi worth a child? Of course not. But doesn't your kid deserve an Audi, if you want the best for him? It's more like "One Audi for each kid". And then these kids go around in Audis while yours have to ride the buss. It's about investing heavily (education mostly, which is way more expensive than cars) in the few children you get, not getting a lot of children hoping one of them will be able to afford giving you an Audi in your old age.   You should give that advice to Subsaharan Africans. Not to me. All my kids are getting college education.   Pinguin