Islam and Christianity

Originally posted by gcle2003 Both Islam and Christianity are proselytising religions, actively seeking converts, unlike other religions like Hinduism, Buddhism, or even Judaism. Since both religions see it as their mission to convert the world, their clash is inevitable.

Yes it makes sense to me, the both religions are old rivals.

i believe judaism,  christianity and islam are  working on the same engine

islam is a newer version of christianity(like xp)

also cristianity was a newer version of judaism(win 98)

judaism(win 95) was a newer version of abrahamic logic(win. 3,1)

i thing the messiah(the christ)(win visita)will solve all problems...

as a xp user i am waiting for win. visita 

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 Peaceful co-existence between such radically opposite doctrines is impossible. The two religions may temporarily compromise but on a long run  it is all a mirage to fool the naive.

well technically you can look into the differences, or into the similarities

... or you can ignore both...

... the religions I mean.

Originally posted by Maju ... or you can ignore both... ... the religions I mean.

You mean preaching secularism or Athiesm? Because secularism will not deminish the differences. Athiesm preaching does not guarantee that too necessarily. You just cannot remove differences by forcing a third option. Albania failed to remove the religious differences after decades of Athiest rule. Yoguslavia failed to supress the ethnic identities causing 1971 Croatian uprising and the following breakup of 1980's.

 Please correct me if I`m wrong, `I`m not a expert in religions. however the way I understand the conflict and the myth is over a little piece of land. and to put it real simple,

When Sara was afraid she would not have a child made Abraham commit  adulterly with Hagor who had Ishmael. Then when Sara had Isaac  became jeaously and had Abraham kick Hagor and her son out of the camp who then went to Paran. Then abraham  sacrficed Isaac and God promise the land , however in Islam it was Ishmael that was the son that was sacrificed. So the conflict is really all about brother against brother till this day,  over their  father`s tomb and land.

Jesus in his mission knew the future conflict and died for the law of forgiveness, and peace. In revelations Jesus peace will come into the land . I believe Mohaman as a prophet also taught the laws of future peace. ,all though I not familer with the Koran.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paran

 

  

Originally posted by �ok ge� Originally posted by Maju ... or you can ignore both... ... the religions I mean. You mean preaching secularism or Athiesm? Because secularism will not deminish the differences. Athiesm preaching does not guarantee that too necessarily. You just cannot remove differences by forcing a third option. Albania failed to remove the religious differences after decades of Athiest rule. Yoguslavia failed to supress the ethnic identities causing 1971 Croatian uprising and the following breakup of 1980's.

I couldn't find the link now but the most recent poll on religion in Albania said that most are agnostic. CIA has outdated data.

Anyhow, I promote rather western system: all is open to discussion but reliogious doctrine and praxis is not excluded.

In practical terms that means leaving religion for home, temple and spaces of philosophy (taverns, classrooms, etc.)

 maju qoute-But you must believe that Jews and Arabs are actually descendants of those people. Mythic ancestors aren't necessarily real ancestors.

 In the religions the belief is everyone on earth came from the seed of Abraham,  However we know different today with evolution and DNA

Originally posted by Mortaza In the religions the belief is everyone on earth came from the seed of Abraham, wasnt he should be  Adam?

Adam and Eve were "mythic" ancestors.

Originally posted by azimuth only a branch of Arabs came from Abraham.

So who was living in the Arab peninsula when Abraham was alive (assuming he was)?

If you accept the Genesis account, then one of Abraham's descendants was Israel, whose children became the Jews. But Genesis accepts that there were stacks of other peoples around at the time. Abraham himself was Chaldean (according to the Book), and not - obviously - one of the 'children of Israel'.

Actually the Abraham myth is not incompatible with a group of Chaldeans having migrated to Canaan and settled there. But they were by no means the only inhabitants.