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Topic: Falconry Posted: 06-Feb-2007 at 18:07 |
Originally posted by xi_tujue
I'm sorry but all your pic suck compared to this one
the Kazakh golden eagle and it's master
Look at the size of the Bird
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What a wonder, next to that ugly strange looking shark! Diffently need to get one of these as well, along side that smelly flower, called the corpse.
Oh yeah mind you that syphillis is the disease of nobles, kings, queens, monarchs, emperors, empress, pope's
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Pregnancy is a Death Sentence to an Afghan Woman!
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Posted: 12-Feb-2007 at 17:23 |
The Boke of St.Albans (1486) attributes different birds of prey to different ranks and status's in Medieval Europe. The social heirarchy and bird went approximately like this:
Emperor: Golden Eagle, Vulture, & Merlin
King: Gyrfalcon (male & female)
Prince: Female Peregrine
Duke: Rock Falcon (subspecies of the Peregrine)
Earl: Peregrine
*See Above*
Baron: Male peregrine
*See Above*
Knight: Saker
Squire: Lanner Falcon
Lady: Female Merlin
*See Above*
Yeoman: Goshawk or Hobby
Priest: Female Sparrowhawk
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Holywater clerk: Male Sparrowhawk
*See Above*
Knaves, Servants, Children: Old World Kestrel
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Posted: 17-Feb-2007 at 10:44 |
Hi!
Hungarian falconer.
TSz
(as soon as I can find the picture-sorry:-/ )
Edited by Tar Szernd - 17-Feb-2007 at 11:32
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Posted: 17-Feb-2007 at 14:20 |
So you're the Hungarian Falconer? That's awesome. Eagerly awaiting pics
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Posted: 17-Feb-2007 at 14:57 |
Originally posted by Knights
So you're the Hungarian Falconer? That's awesome. Eagerly awaiting pics |
Hi!
Nooo!! (But I know one of them)
I have somewhere a picture about a silver dish with a hungarian (or maybe bulgarian) falconer from the X. Century.
The first hungarian kings of the rpd dinasty originated themself (before the "attila-legends came into Hungary with western priests-interesting:-) from the Turul. This falcon made with Emese in her dream lmos (The 'Dreamer'), the father of rpd. So falcons and falconry had a large tradition in Hungary, maybe the european falconry has a hungarian (or maybe avarian or hunnish), and arabian origin.
We have here in Hungary a lot of falcons, kestrels etc, but there is a big criminal smuggling gang too, wich is transporting the poor birds into the arabian countries, because there are just a few of them, and the "imported" european birds can't endure the desert climate very long, so the falconers there need new wares every time.
TSZ
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Posted: 17-Feb-2007 at 15:02 |
Originally posted by Tar Szernd
We have here in Hungary a lot of falcons, kestrels etc, but there is a big criminal smuggling gang too, which is transporting the poor "Hungarian" birds into the Arabian countries, because there are just a few of them, and the "imported" European birds can't endure the desert climate very long, so the falconers there need new wares every time. |
That's not too good. Why can't they just go and get themselves goshawks or hobbies possibly - from their region. So they are doing this illegally?
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Posted: 19-Feb-2007 at 11:31 |
Hi!
Certenly. Yes. Some schools and the scouts are organizing guards under the nest-trees every year.
TSZ
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Posted: 02-Mar-2007 at 12:43 |
De arte venandi cum avibus (Frederick II)
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Posted: 05-Aug-2007 at 06:45 |
Saw it necessary to revive a topic I'm so passionate about. I got this brief history of falconry off a website, and it's quite fascinating. It really illustrates how valuable, even priceless, the royalties' birds of prey were. - Empress Catherine of Russia - her favorite falcon was Merlin
- Mary, Queen of Scots - was allowed to fly a Merlin from her window during her imprisonment
- Edward
III of England - during the invasion of France, he brought 30 falconers
and 70 foxhounds to occupy his knights between campaigns
- Ethelbert II of England - likely the first English king to be a falconer
- Alfred the Great - also wrote on falconry
- King Henry - called Henry the Fowler for his love of falconry
- Canute the Great - King of England
- Edward the Confessor - King of England
- Athelstan of England
- Henry VII
- Henry VIII - had very elaborate mews built where the National Gallery in Trafalgar Square stands today
- Francis I of France - kept 300 falcons and 50 masters of falconry
- Queen Elizabeth I - one source claims she had a woman Grand Master of Falconry, Mary of Canterbury
- Maximilian I - Holy Roman Emperor
- King Richard - took his birds with him on the Crusades; when he was captured part of his ransom was 2 white Gyrfalcons
- King John - had a passion for crane hawking with a cast of Gyrfalcons which were a gift from the King of Norway
- James
I - commissioned the translation of the Bible into English; a falconer,
but also experimented with cormorants and osprey to take fish; kept
white-tailed sea eagles for hunting teal
- James IV - ran large, organized hunts on horseback; believed to have spent 1,000 pounds on a pair of Gyrfalcons (approx. modern day 125,000 pounds<<edited in by Knights) from Scotland
- Henry
II - favorite birds were eyass Peregrines from Ramsey Island (Wales);
he and his nobles were known to bring their hooded birds to the table
during meals
- Charlemagne - believed all gentlemen should be trained in falconry
- Ottoman
Sultan Beyazid - kidnapped the son of Philip the Bold and turned down
the ransom of 200,000 gold ducats accepting 12 white Gyrfalcons and a
jeweled gauntlet paid for by Carl VI of France
- King Cardoman
- Edward III
- Edward IV
- Edward the Black Prince - took 30 falconers with him when he invaded France
It truly is mind boggling the value of such birds, and after just watching an episode of "The worst jobs in history" (Services of the monarchy) involving the job an English falconer, the birds were extremely highly prized. Gyrfalcon:
Edited by Knights - 05-Aug-2007 at 06:46
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Posted: 30-Nov-2010 at 18:53 |
Does anyone have any medieval images of arab, saracen, or islamic falconry from the period?
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