Well, I wouldn't argue about colours, especially when it comes to hair and eyes, fair hair and eyes are recessive in Asia Minor anyway. Facial features may be more telling, DNA will be even more, but I don't have data on that.For me the language is more important.

It seems clear to me that the Kurds are a remnant of much older ethnic layer that the Turks are; now if they are Median, Lydian, or Persian can be only a guess, whether more or less educated one.

Typical statements made by racist Iranians with an inferiority complex:

Originally posted by Don Quixote Well, I wouldn't argue about colours, especially when it comes to hair and eyes, fair hair and eyes are recessive in Asia Minor anyway. Facial features may be more telling, DNA will be even more, but I don't have data on that.For me the language is more important. It seems clear to me that the Kurds are a remnant of much older ethnic layer that the Turks are; now if they are Median, Lydian, or Persian can be only a guess, whether more or less educated one.

Edited by Ollios - 01-Jun-2013 at 06:56

Originally posted by Don Quixote How are Kurds Egyptian and Arab? Their language is an Indo-European one.

Ollios, I would not take DNAtribes study to  mean anything.  People in the Automosal community do not take DNAtribes articles and results seriously.  It is better to look at Dodecad and Eurogenes.  DNAtribes results always differ greatly every few months.

Kurds are west asians with high amounts of South Central Asian DNA same for Iranians which clearly indicates that there was a population movenment from Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex to west asia and high probability is it came from the early Iranians as it is present in all west iranians.


Heres why DNA tribes is a Joke.  Their results from last year, whre they had a component called Persian where Kurds and Turkmenistan had higher then Persians themselves




Edited by Ince - 03-Jun-2013 at 08:58

Originally posted by Ince   Heres why DNA tribes is a Joke.  Their results from last year, whre they had a component called Persian where Kurds and Turkmenistan had higher then Persians themselves

hi,I am persian. I have just registered to answer you people. kurds are group of persians. as you may know persia had been a great country from china to ukraine and italy. many people in these countries have persian race. but the question is why some people in europe think that they are all arabian. well in fact you don't know how arabian people look.  in my country iran. there are many arabian people. maybe 20%  of  whole the country. because many years ago arabians attacked iran they killed men and raped women . they could take most part of iran except north. after some years persians forced them to go out. so thats why some people look like them.
but every person with dark skin in iran is not arabian. my great grandmother was zoroastrian . they do not marry other religions,so they are 100% persian. but her skin was quite dark. we persians were all aryans . people who have been in warm cities have been changed to people with darker skin and darker hair. and people in cold cities changed to blond or red hair with pale skin. I have many friends . in my city which is not tehran we have many blonds and reds. my hair is brown.

and about kurds

they are aryan ,many persian names are known as kurdish, but because they are near iraq. some of them are like half arabian. we have kurd in our family. they are tall with white skin. they look aryan.
so germans are aryan mixed with slav race,thats why they have many blonds and kurds are aryan but some of them mixed with arabians . also in gilan near caspian sea. we have many blonds who look like germans.

so kurds are not german but they are aryan and germans are aryan.
thats all

Persian-Kurdish brotherhood?? N

Massacre in Mahabad? Persians silent!
Holy War (Khomnei) against the Kurds? Persians silent!
Executions against the Kurds? Persians silent!

You are not ashamed of yourself and tell me something about brotherhood? Remember the words of Qazi Muhammad: "You take revenge for me." And now you'll be able to dream of your fraternity!

Picture: Eastern Kurdistan (1958) - Persian hunt down Kurdish and kill everyone they can get their filthy hands.

I just do not know how any historian could never really compare the words; Aryan, And Arian?

Therefore is one a "race" or is one a "religion?"

Is there any way to combine the two?

I happen to think they were confused.

Regards, Ron

Edited by opuslola - 07-Dec-2013 at 18:51

Originally posted by Ollios Originally posted by AnatoliaMezrabotan My dear, I wanted to draw attention to the history and culture! ... because playing a major policy of denial and annihilation against of the Kurds! I drew a lot attention. Is there any non Kurd-civillization in the middle east? Luwian, Hittites, Medieans and also Scythians are Kurd. Maybe topic should be "Germans are Kurd?"  Originally posted by Don Quixote   What does it mean "the majority"?  This majority (Newroz 2013 in Diyarbakır) Fair hair is less common in Kurds. Yes some of them have really pale skin, fair hair and beautiful coloured eyes but not majority. That doesn't give a sense. Original pure kurd is blonde and have long structured head. As a child i used to have a very light yellow hair that i am now black. Ethnologists say that Kurds who mixed with Turks, Persian and Arabs they tend to Brownish dark hair and rounded head. Then suddeny I discovered that from my mother side I have an Arab grand father as a sixth forebear.

Edited by Hemin Mukri - 12-May-2014 at 13:36