When did Kurds and Persians first names use ?

But what I meant to say is that the Bilble is full of references to the Medes. Ancient Jews wrote a lot about the Medes and defined the ancient Kurds as the Medes.

But if Scythians and Parthians were the same people, why did Parthians have different name for Adiabene than Scythians? They called it Norshirakan. And why did Scythian people fight the Parthians?

Originally posted by Ince Regarding Corduene,  Also i want to add that Corduene was a small state and did not cover everywhere that Kurds lived.  So not all Kurds were from Corduene. From a Kurdish site. Names of Corduene Kings Corduene was a kingdom in ancient Kurdistan, often been neglected by scholars. Among their notable kings were Zarbienus and Manisarus, whose etymology of names discloses the nature of the Iranic dialect they spoke: a middle Scythian dialect, the same as neighbouring Adiabene to the south of the kingdom. Zarbienus, also recorded as Zarbiene, and Zarbien, (early-mid 1st c. BC), made overtures to Appius Claudius, when the latter was staying at Antiocheia, wishing to shake off the yoke of Tigranes. He was informed against, however, and was assassinated with his wife and children before the Romans entered Armenia. When Lucullus arrived he celebrated his funeral rites with great pomp, setting fire to the funeral pile with his own hand, and had a sumptuous monument erected to him. His name is comprised of two components, the first part is ''zar'', middle Iranic development for gold/golden, deriving from the old Avestan and Scythian ''zaranya''. The old Persian equivalentx of zaranya was daranya, whle later on, Zar entered as a loan into Persian and replaced the original old Persian daranya. Plutarch as even recorded the name as Zerbienus, which reflectes typical middle and new Kurdish development of /a>e/. It is is cognate with name of queen of eastern Scythians (Sakas), "Zarina". She led a rebellion by Scythians and Parthians against the Median King Cyaxares, who according to Herodotus had recovered his kingdom through intoxicating Scythian nobles. (that is after Scythian king Madius had counqered the Medes. The name of Zarina which means golden, is till used for Kurdish females. The name has also been borroowed into Persian. Manisarus (ca. 115 AD) took control over Armenia and Mesopotamia; therefor Osroes, the Parthian king, declared war against him; Manisarus sided with Romans. There are some coins extant, which are assigned to Manisarus. The etymology of his name is explained by linguist and orientalist Ferdinand Justi (author of "Kurdische Grammatik"), in his valuable book "Iranisches Namenbuch" to mean "unique and unparalleled lord/master". The image above, shows an old drawing from one of the silver coins of the King Manisarus. Note King's headband (or diadem), typical for Scythian kings, such as King Izates II of Adiabene.

 The Kingdom of Corduene was not equal to the homeland of Carduchians. the Armenian King Tigran conquered almost half of Corduene and also settled armenians there but it is a FACT THAT CARDUCHIANS ALSO EXISTED EVERYWERE ELSE OUTSIDE THE KNOWN CORDUENE. What Iam trying to tell you is that Corduene was just one Kingdom of Carduchians. The Carduchians also existed in Adiabene and Sophene. Also the King of Adiabene and was Scythian. What Iam trying to tell you that everywhere where Kurds live no there where also Scythians.

Here some Jewish sources I showed it one time before but you peeps try to ignore it.

Corduene in Jewish Sources

Targum, a Jewish source of Talmudic period, consistently understands Ararat to be located in Gorduene and not in Armenia[11]. This region is usually identified with the landing site in Deluge mythology. According to Aggadah, Noah landed in Korduene in Armenia. Berossus was also of the opinion that Xisthros landed with his ship in Korduene [12]. Josephus cited the evidence of Berossus as proof that the Flood was not a myth and also mentioned that the remains of the Ark were still visible in the district of Carron, persumably identical with Korduene[13]. In Nashim, the third order of Talmud, Rav Nahman bar Jacob has allowed proselytization of Kurds from Corduene[14]. This points to the existence of Jewish converts among the population of Corduene in the early 4th century.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carduene

According to the Romans people living in Zagroß and Zaxo also were called Carduene

Das Corduene oder Carduene der römischen Quellen war eine Landschaft im Zagros oder dem armenischen Hochland.

Here is the real Source of Strabo what he wrote about greater Armenia Tigran and the People of Corduene he wrote that THE REAL ARMENIA WAS MUCH SMALLER AND BECAME JUST SO BIG AFTER TIGRANS CONQUERS.

http://soltdm.com/sources/mss/strab/11.htm

Don´t understand this as a attack on you guys but please don´t try to show me articles and to prove Iam wrong believe me I almost have 6 Years to do with this things and I also thought like you before. The Problem is that you guys don´t understand that even Persian Roman and Greek sources write, That among Median conferderation also many Cimmerian and Scythian tribes existed. That the Medians never were a tribe but a big conferderation. This is like I am telling you that the Americans are in fact a bunch of Britains, Germans, Italics and Mexicans who came together and build a country called this country USA and started to call themself Americans. And you tell me NO there was also a American tribe thats why they were called Americans LOL.