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    Posted: 13-Jul-2012 at 00:34
i appreciate ALL the researched view points that have been shared. especially the questioning of extra-terra-astrial involvment. my question, b4 i impart my research and experience, has anyone researched into the sumerian history and the extra-terra-astrial involvement? what do about the 46000 tablets? dis-covered in the cuneiforum script? had anyone heard of the 'dur.an.ki'? i personally have seen an interdimensional being and its a very enlightening, consciousness expanding experience.......have u heard of  drunvalo melchizedek?
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  Quote REALNEWZ999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Jul-2012 at 16:52
anyone familiar with the 'Philadelphia Experiment'? 1943?
major ancient 'civilizations' r ALL connected by the same principals of science. b it esoteric or exoteric or spiritual or godly or kosmic or watever verbalization one feels comfortable with. r thr extra-terra-astrial beings or interdeminsional beings or beings of higher/lower densities? yes!!!! r thr states of existence beyond this low density of solid liquid and gas? yes!!! ALL the evidence we r looking for resides within the cellular vibration of our being. DNA is a very helpful element to our innerstanding of our greatness. i mean basic science principals that have bn taught or dis-covered or revealed wen applied in principal explain or shed light on that overstanding. take for instance the light spectrum, according to a show i watched years ago, pardon my lack of name reference, if one were to stretch the light spectrum out on the planet it would lay from alaska to california and on that stretch, the visible light spetrum would b the size of an ID card...... consider that for a moment.
light is a result of sound resulting from kinetic nrgy, refer to the cycles of nrgy chart in the running press cyclopedia.....according to the science teacher i went to school and learned from as well as my own studies, everything of existence vibrates, u know, is made of atoms hence a minor solar system. thus everything is moving......no-thing rests. therefore everything oscilates sound. which inturn emits light. we do have wats bn verbed as an aura or light body that surrounds our being. do we create the manifested reality of our eyes perception? yes!!!! everything of our external reality is a mirrored reflection of the inner workings of our minds. a childs eyes takes approx. 2yrs to fully develop and see 3deminsionally. dont be-lie-eve me look it up. wen a child is born thr eyes havent the ability to give form to the light they r perceiving. they r predominatly ruled by instinct and E-motions. they see the aura of people real easy. their conscious manifested presence is still familiarizing with this density of existence.
a master illusion in this density of solid liquid and gas or this 3rd density of solid light, is separation. right 'NOW' as u r reading this we r connected. the conflict is wen learning these basic sciences of existence we miss the principal applications to our own being. i was watching a show on netflix called TECHNOCALYPSE, very interesting, and these scienctist r suggesting their possibility or in my opinion, their plan to use nanotechnology and download their consciousness into these 'things' save it into a computer and reanimate their being in a new body. like their afraid of death persay or afraid of the process of ascending from this 3rd density of vibration organically bcause they dont possess the DNA composition/code, or clairity of 'junk DNA', required to make the transition.  
i dont want to overload the matter so i will pause for now.......... 
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Jul-2012 at 10:47
Amazing, you have manged to cram every sophomoric argument questioning the creation and functioning of the Universe, into one incomprehensible pile.  Congratulations, no small feat there.
 
What drives me nuts is that intelligent folks are getting all wound up with this Alien stuff.  Childress'  ideas are at best, pure speculation.  He "forgets" to mention much, while emphasing only those facts that fit his screwball theories.  He's made a big deal of
The Underwater UFO base, in Lake Titicaca.  What he neglected to mention was the fact that,  In the time frame he refs. approx. 12,000 ybp, the lake was 60 miles south of where the Shoreline is now.  As a result of a tremedous earthquake, roughly 12,000 ybp, the region suffered an Uplift of several thousand feet. It tilted the lake.  The so called secret base was sticking up on dry land at the time Childress is speaking of, and the settlement of Tiahuanaco had a waterfront that sat right on the lakes edge.  The frustrating thing about all of this is, they have actually collected a mountain of evidence for, The Lost Civilization.  But they are so consummed by this Alien thing that they miss it.  Why is it that folks can't believe we as humans, are capable of creating an advanced technology by ourselves, without help from the little green guys?
 
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Jul-2012 at 01:38
In about 14 days he can respond.
 
In the mean time I personally got no problem with opining about esoteric and or pseudoscience. I'm in a region famous for stuff from skin walkers to UFOs to Apache and Navajo Witch doctors. No probs there. 
 
 
 
And as someone once said in a movie..."Your Honor since I been working with these guys I seen shit that would turn you white" as so I have....But ya don't troll especially when ya warned and then have the unabashed temerity to blow it off.
 
So as I had been thinking about starting a thread along these lines. Any and all are welcome to it.
But as the man said above and I'll expound on it ...what can normally be explained away using the method sci-historical and just experience and common sense remain the key. This planet, in it's life, has suffered enormous physical change and will continue to do so. So until those academically scientific explanations are examined in detail and as we discern more from the multi-disciplinary record. I 'm not buying that every thing known, unknown or unexplained, lost cities and civilizations, monsters and lizard men whose skin colour is black is because of ET.
 
Wont disregard it as I love a good CT or UFO and lost civ story with the best of them. And whether I believe or not is immaterial...I do it and opine on it without resorting to re examination and re postulation of verbiage that is not academically sound or at the least has some credibility recognized by the SMEs to include the Ufologists and or experienced and qualified observers. But I especially avoid the proselytizing route of the fanatic.
 
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jul-2012 at 11:06
Check out Steve Volk. Probably the best of the objective skeptics and now paranormal-supernatural investigate reporter in the business. His latest is a dandy. FRINGE-OLOGY.
If your expecting ghost busters/hunters blah blah.... that exploitative TAPS bull shit...your in for a surprise.....This guy looks at it from the perspective of which I opined above. He looks.. he listens.. he goes to the SME's..he researches..he looks for a scientific explanation. But is not so skeptical he wont open his mind to alternative theorems. He challenges the hard core science fanatic rejectionist perspective as much as the fanatic believers. And more importantly he does not dismiss out of hand.

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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2012 at 04:38
Alaska Pyramid
LMH is an intrepid and famous Investigate reporter..tho she has her critics......here is her latest.
 
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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Aug-2012 at 18:54
The Philadelphia Experiment is one of those things that to me is in the same realm as Roswell - I'm not sure what really happened; I am sure that something happened, and I'm really, really sure that we haven't gotten the truth and likely never will.

Fortunately or unfortunately for me, and sometimes those around me, I am a believer in the probability of alien life elsewhere.  The Cosmos is simply too vast for us to be the sole lifeform that ever happened top come into existence, and much of our ancient history is full of questions which we cannot answer with our current level of knowledge and technology.  However, as much as I like some of von Daniken's concepts (and others), he diesn't have all of the answers, either.
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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Aug-2012 at 18:55
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

In about 14 days he can respond.
 
In the mean time I personally got no problem with opining about esoteric and or pseudoscience. I'm in a region famous for stuff from skin walkers to UFOs to Apache and Navajo Witch doctors. No probs there. 
 
 
 
And as someone once said in a movie..."Your Honor since I been working with these guys I seen shit that would turn you white" as so I have....But ya don't troll especially when ya warned and then have the unabashed temerity to blow it off.
 
So as I had been thinking about starting a thread along these lines. Any and all are welcome to it.
But as the man said above and I'll expound on it ...what can normally be explained away using the method sci-historical and just experience and common sense remain the key. This planet, in it's life, has suffered enormous physical change and will continue to do so. So until those academically scientific explanations are examined in detail and as we discern more from the multi-disciplinary record. I 'm not buying that every thing known, unknown or unexplained, lost cities and civilizations, monsters and lizard men whose skin colour is black is because of ET.
 
Wont disregard it as I love a good CT or UFO and lost civ story with the best of them. And whether I believe or not is immaterial...I do it and opine on it without resorting to re examination and re postulation of verbiage that is not academically sound or at the least has some credibility recognized by the SMEs to include the Ufologists and or experienced and qualified observers. But I especially avoid the proselytizing route of the fanatic.
 
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Aug-2012 at 19:27
Never hear of it MM but will research.
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Aug-2012 at 01:51
Big smileStill searching but that is good stuff....connections between the coral structures found off Japan?
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Aug-2012 at 01:34
LOLFrom Coral structures to Sea Serpents.....
 
Sea Serpent Spotted In Norway Lake, Witnesses Say
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

Big smileStill searching but that is good stuff....connections between the coral structures found off Japan?
Ya ole rascal ya caught me with that one....


For some reason it has never gotten much publicity, but I came across it a couple of years ago in a documentary and got interested.

Once again, working with massive stones to create incredible structures.  If you have GoogleEarth or similar, you can get some good shots of parts of the islands and structures, and a better sense of where it lies geographically.

It's a fascinating place. Thumbs Up
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Esoteric and Pseudoscience" is far too good a title to let go to waste.  Let's come up with something worthy of discussion.
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What's ya opinion on those with more actual Scientific or professional credentials versus those who don't have them. Devoted layman tho they may be.  And are in many cases there to make the bucks on the phenom thru the lecture and book circuit....gig. Iow. is the credibility of a layman or a professional more reasonable. Concurrently not being in opposition to a good capitalist..... ntl...are those aforementioned merely scamming or are they doing the field a service?

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Speaking of "pseudoscience", I watched an episode of Off Limits this morning.  I can't stand the narrator, but part of the episode was about the closed Oak Knoll Naval Hospital in the Bay Area of San Francisco.  Apparently, the Officers Club there, which is still standing although abandoned, was where Lafayette Ronald Hubbard first presented his Dianetics concept, which later became the Scientology movement.

It interested me because I was seen there as a patient a couple of times while I was in high school in nearby El Cerrito. 
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What's ya opinion on those with more actual Scientific or professional credentials versus those who don't have them. Devoted layman tho they may be.  And are in many cases there to make the bucks on the phenom thru the lecture and book circuit....gig. Iow. is the credibility of a layman or a professional more reasonable. Concurrently not being in opposition to a good capitalist..... ntl...are those aforementioned merely scamming or are they doing the field a service?


Generally, I'll take the professional with the credentials, but with a caveat - some professionals can't lecture worth a hoot, in which case I wouldn't mind a non-professional "translating" for them! Smile

A "devoted layman" can be interesting, but there is always a question of the depth of his knowledge on the subject, although I have encountered a couple of laymen who knew an awful lot about their subjects and outdid the professionals.

I would have to say that the non-professionals are riding the lecture circuit for the money rather than to advance the field, IMHO.  OTH, it's practically a national past time for former generals, former presidents and a host of others these days.
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Sep-2012 at 08:15
And now we jump to what's known as Russia's version of Area 51 and Roswell incidents. And for the hell of it I throw in the China Roswell.
 
 
 
 
 
All ya skeptics meet me in Dulce........Big smile
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Check Russian research for telepathy and paranormal during Cold War!It destroys their Scientific achievements!Basic purpose of it,for me after all those years was:Big Brother watches us!Smile(Hannah Arendt what you've done to usLOL)No atheist&socialist&? words here please CV!
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Check Russian research for telepathy and paranormal during Cold War!It destroys their Scientific achievements!Basic purpose of it,for me after all those years was:Big Brother watches us!Smile(Hannah Arendt what you've done to usLOL)No atheist&socialist&? words here please CV!
 
 
 
Nah not here....Meden.Big smile
 
I actually liked some of Arendt's stuff.
 
 
Tho I've never met many atheists who believe in the paranormal/ufo's etc.. and you would think they would support more then most the possibilities. To closely tied to main stream science it appears.
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This will probably be a compilation of random thoughts on some of the above.
 
Someone asked me if I believe in UFOs, my reply was- A belief is something taken on faith, no facts or evidence needed.  I don't have a belief, for me the subject is real.  Having seen a UFO on 3 occasions,  I personally know they exist.  Through in the personal experiences of various high placed NATO officers and other members of European Military and civilian orgs. and it isn't a question of if they exist, but rather, where do they come from?  And more important, why are they here?
 
Von Daniken got us thinking, some of his ideas are in a cocked hat, but there some things that do hit the target, however MM is right, he misses some important points.
 
Our ancient past has been obscured by time and physical changes in our world. Also, willful ignoring of archeaologic evidence [willful destruction of same also] as well as hidden agendas held by various archeaologists and scientists, has muddied the waters considerably.
Not the best ref there is but Graham Hancock has made the statement, "We are a Civilization with Amnesia".  Meaning we have lost a huge part of our past.
 
There have been discoveries of Skeletons being 8-12 ft in height, all over N. America.  Native American legends hold that these folks were here 15-20 thousand years before us.
 
There are Anomalous structures that exist worldwide. There isn't any impetus to investigate most of them, with professional attitudes the way they are, it's a good way to lose your professional credibility.
 
 
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