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Prophet
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Topic: How reliable is the History Channel? Posted: 30-Aug-2007 at 18:01 |
Anything on HC dealing with Christianity is usually couched from a critical and skeptical approach. Avoid such shows if you want the truth. P
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Aelfgifu
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 01:18 |
The thruth in this case being being your thruth, I presume? If Chrisitanity cannot survive a little scepticism, it is hardly worth believing in. Not that the HC has the thruth either, but I hardly think being uncritical about a religion can possibly lead to thruth.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 01:45 |
The "truth" about Christianity is dealt with on Christian channels 24/7, or is it? but well put Aelfgifu!
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 13:16 |
Are you accusing me of being some kind of homophobe? Truth is
Truth and will stand on its on and has for thousands of years. Review your spell checker please. P
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 13:38 |
Originally posted by Prophet
Are you accusing me of being some kind of homophobe? |
I really don't know if you are or not, but the fact that no one mentioned homophobes or homosexuality and you
are being defensive about it will certainly give the impression that
you are indeed a homophobe.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 17:54 |
Originally posted by Prophet
Are you accusing me of being some kind of homophobe? |
Apparently you don't know what the word means. Unfortunately, this does not prove you are not.
And god save us from people who believe so.
Edited by Aelfgifu - 31-Aug-2007 at 17:54
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 19:27 |
I rather liked the wonderful word thruth and got the thrust of it all! But seriously Prophet what are you talking about? All of a sudden we have another word homophobe and without knowing what caused your sudden outburst. Do you mean a lover of men or lover of mankind? The latter is quite in order when talking about Christianity but the former belongs on another thread. You will find those on this board do have a wide understanding, but make sure what you talk about right now has to do with the subject!
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Posted: 02-Sep-2007 at 01:29 |
Originally posted by bagelofdoom
I had a TA who referred to the History Channel as "the Hitler Channel" because all that they ever talked about was WWII. Some of their programming can be interesting though, just make sure that you double check their facts before using them. |
That is hilarious, I've joked with people referring to the history channel in the exact same words. As a junior or senior in high school I would get home and as sure as the tide the history channel would have a program about hitler on. Then there are those hitler marathons on weekends, 12+ hours of nothing but hitler... I've actually kept the history channel on all day once or twice during those marathons. Hours of my life I'll never get back.
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Posted: 04-Sep-2007 at 08:50 |
Originally posted by what_is_history
"Ice Road Truckers." |
You shouldn't really mock "Ice Road Truckers". Along with "Dogfights" its been one of the biggest documentary hits this year. Its enormously popular- the figures are staggering.
Originally posted by King John
I think what some of you are missing is that most of
these "documentaries"/programs are not actually made by the History
Channel they are simply bought from smaller production companies.
Simply put these programs are not made by historians but rather
amatuers and hobbyists whose schooling does not include historical
research (I know because I went to undergrad to do just that, I quickly
changed my mind as to what I want to do). On top of that there are time
constraints that require editing and cutting of certain information.
Then you have the shows like Wild West Tech or Mail Call both of which
nobody should be watching anyway. When it comes to TV I stay to PBS,
National Geographic, Discovery, and the Food Network. |
Well usually the historical basis of these films rests with three things: 1. Any expert brought in. 2. Any prior books, magazines or media that can be found. 3. Researchers- who usually aren't experts. Documentaries usually try and provide a balanced view from the sources available, modified of course by the opinions of the various people involved. Almost all historical programs are made by "amateurs". That said one has to be particuarly careful about the main force behind a program. Good examples being all that Alex Jones schlock which despite its constant repetition of historical "examples" manages to misrepresent or get wrong the vast majority. Similarly John Pilger's recent "War on Democracy" refused to back up claims, provided no context, was entirely one sided and pandered to Pilgers own preconceptions.
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Posted: 04-Sep-2007 at 09:06 |
Prophet has been lost in translation. Future generations will worship his insights!
The history Channel is as good as the programmes you watch on it. Its goina have 'popish' shows and serious shows to catch as many viewers as possible. So I couldn't really judge it as good or bad either way.
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Posted: 21-Apr-2012 at 02:17 |
Main role of History today is:Divide et impera!It had divided people easy could be ruled. It is my opinion.
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Posted: 21-Apr-2012 at 10:34 |
THC is poorly written, poorly researched and a revisonist haven. It's directors and producers are liberal, leftists socialists who overtly promote that political ideaology. I'll pass.
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Posted: 21-Apr-2012 at 15:30 |
I haven't seen a history show on HC for long, long time - all I see when I turn it on is reality-shows=royal-waste-on-time.
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Posted: 22-Apr-2012 at 09:53 |
I don't know about anywhere else, but in this area we now have H2, or History Channel 2. H2 is the Alien Channel, the regular History Channel is now the Doomsday channel. They moved all of the Hitler stuff to the Military Channel. If you look a little you'll find that the History channels and the Discovery channels, along with the Military channel, are all owned by the same outfit.
About 3 times a year a list of documentaries and other type history shows that have become public domain comes out. These are programs whose copyrights have run out and no one renewed them. They can be obtained and used without royalties, by anyone. If you check that list, you'll see where the History channel gets most of it's programming. BTW there are a lot of movies on that list as well.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2012 at 17:51 |
I have the History Channel and I have the H2 channel.
The History channel has what I call 'elementary history' programming. Every once in awhile it will pop out a decent program, but there are way more channels I have to watch something to stimulate my mind now.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2012 at 18:52 |
Ever kind you are Tj...elementary? I grant you your opinion but it ain't even that when distortion and revisionism, which their corporate owners and sponsors and production department flaunts regularly, as their ideologies. Better bet..... PBS. And then only marginally.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2012 at 19:15 |
I just wish the History Channel showed more history-related programs. I'm sick of boring dreck about modern-day lumberjacks and truckers and want to see more archaeological shows like Mud Men and history documentaries not centred around the Nazis. Military History has some good programs though
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Posted: 16-Aug-2012 at 18:36 |
Originally posted by Malik
Ive heard people mentioning that alot of the stuff on HC is unreliable and inaccurate.How many of you feel the same way?DO any of you watch the HC?
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I watch it, and it's companion H2 and The Military Channel. Generally speaking, their historical accuracy is awful. The events referred to seem to be fairly accurate, as is a good deal of the narrated information, but the visual material presented to support it to the audience is very often wrong, erroneous, contradictory or all of the above. Same for many of their "eyewitnesses" or "survivors", most famously the old geezer who had allegedly served in the infantry, the artillery and the Royal Air Corps during WWI. I watch it because I like History...and because it's the only game in town.
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Posted: 16-Aug-2012 at 19:18 |
Discovery History is good as most of its shows are history-related (though i wish they broadcast more recent reruns of Time Team). They had an interesting documentary with colorised footage of WWI and a lot of ancient archaeology-related stuff
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