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Topic: Why Greeks dont request to be called Hel Posted: 29-May-2005 at 02:50 |
For the same reason that the Welsh don't insist they are called Cymry,
the Dutch don't insist they are called Nederlanders, the Finns don;t
insist they are called Soumi, and so on. Of course, they all like it
when you do.
Namely they take it for granted that different peoples have different
names in different languages. Linguistic diversity and all that.
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vulkan02
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Posted: 29-May-2005 at 12:08 |
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Phallanx
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Posted: 29-May-2005 at 16:05 |
[QUOTE = vulkan02]
i recall you once said Greece = Greqi (albanian).... Gre (woman) ... qi (do) [/QUOTE]
Nope, wasn't me. You've obviously either making that one up or you're
thinking about someone else, since I'd never say that kind of stuff.
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To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent.
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Posted: 29-May-2005 at 17:05 |
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Homer MakeDonski
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Posted: 30-May-2005 at 17:26 |
Hellas= 'elios' + 'laas' = sun + rock = literally meaning "land of sun" |
This is my opinion dear Sir
If Hellenes is PIE for settlers
then what Hellas as possible meaning could hide ?
Logic is that all the settlers have had settled in the parts all around
after they having migrated into the pointed places and made
Helllas or an area where a group of families live together
from the my mother tongue ,comparation is
Hellas
*H->X->K'S
K'SEllas
(-K)'Sellas
SellAS
'Sella/s
Sella-vilages in plural
where singular is
SellO
SellO +AS -> as adopted word for from singulare to plural
Sellas
for the people what have made a migration to come in at the area
or Ella - Come here ,( we share the same word with the same meaning dont we
)
the common name of Hellas could have the Macedonian meaning of
Hellas or vilages as read uder the letters And my gues
is that after they establish their city -states had they
started to identified themselves ,as a possible by now days
meaning of country recognise via the Moon Goddess of Hellene or *HelLunae what does receive shine from the Sun
again my Macedonian
Hel-
K'Sel
Sel
e-je-ije
Sijel
Sijael
Sjail -> has been shining
or Sjaj-> shine
Edited by Homer MakeDonski
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Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:04 |
Originally posted by Homer MakeDonski
Hellas= 'elios' + 'laas' = sun + rock = literally meaning "land of sun" |
This is my opinion dear Sir
If Hellenes is PIE for settlers
then what Hellas as possible meaning could hide ?
Logic is that all the settlers have had settled in the parts all around
after they having migrated into the pointed places and made
Helllas or an area where a group of families live together
from the my mother tongue ,comparation is
Hellas
*H->X->K'S
K'SEllas
(-K)'Sellas
SellAS
'Sella/s
Sella-vilages in plural
where singular is
SellO
SellO +AS -> as adopted word for from singulare to plural
Sellas
for the people what have made a migration to come in at the area
or Ella - Come here ,( we share the same word with the same meaning dont we
)
the common name of Hellas could have the Macedonian meaning of
Hellas or vilages as read uder the letters And my gues
is that after they establish their city -states had they
started to identified themselves ,as a possible by now days
meaning of country recognise via the Moon Goddess of Hellene or *HelLunae what does receive shine from the Sun
again my Macedonian
Hel-
K'Sel
Sel
e-je-ije
Sijel
Sijael
Sjail -> has been shining
or Sjaj-> shine
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Well, this way I can make many names too...
Take for example the english word "fish"
The ending -ish means "of the like" or "of the kind" in english.
The first letter "f", usually (as in the "f word") means to "procreate".
So the word "fish" then means "like procreating" = "pretending to procreate" = "having sex for fun".
Therefore, "fish" means "having sex for fun".
The above is as fishy as your own etymological analysis.
Also: Your FYROMski word "ella" = come, comes from the arabic "yalla" = to come.
The Greek word "ela" = come, is short of the word "elthe" (where "th" is the letter theta) = come.
So, no relation there.
Now go to sleep
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Homer MakeDonski
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Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:11 |
Well, this way I can make many names too...
Take for example the english word "fish"
The ending -ish means "of the like" or "of the kind" in english.
The first letter "f", usually (as in the "f word") means to "procreate".
So the word "fish" then means "like procreating" = "pretending to procreate" = "having sex for fun".
Therefore, "fish" means "having sex for fun".
The above is as fishy as your own etymological analysis.
Also: Your FYROMski word "ella" = come, comes from the arabic "yalla" = to come.
The Greek word "ela" = come, is short of the word "elthe" (where "th" is the letter theta) = come.
So, no relation there.
Now go to sleep
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Of course that you or anybody else can make a lot of word researches
what most of all must to be well grouded
now you have to think how you could
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Menippos
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Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:23 |
Well, I saw your way of providing grounds for your suggestions, and I used exactly the same method: I took it out of my arse
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Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:32 |
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A mathematician is a person who thinks that if there are supposed to be three people in a room, but five come out, then two more must enter the room in order for it to be empty.
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Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:45 |
Originally posted by Homer MakeDonski
Hellas= 'elios' + 'laas' = sun + rock = literally meaning "land of sun" |
This is my opinion dear Sir If Hellenes is PIE for settlers then what Hellas as possible meaning could hide ? Logic is that all the settlers have had settled in the parts all around after they having migrated into the pointed places and made Helllas or an area where a group of families live together from the my mother tongue ,comparation is Hellas *H->X->K'S K'SEllas (-K)'Sellas SellAS 'Sella/s Sella-vilages in plural where singular is SellO SellO +AS -> as adopted word for from singulare to plural Sellas
for the people what have made a migration to come in at the area
or Ella - Come here ,( we share the same word with the same meaning dont we )
the common name of Hellas could have the Macedonian meaning of Hellas or vilages as read uder the letters And my gues is that after they establish their city -states had they started to identified themselves ,as a possible by now days meaning of country recognise via the Moon Goddess of Hellene or *HelLunae what does receive shine from the Sun again my Macedonian
Hel- K'Sel Sel e-je-ije Sijel Sijael Sjail -> has been shining or Sjaj-> shine
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Seriously now Makedonski guy, when i think i have read the stupidest post ever, you just go and post another.
In future kindly proofread your posts before assaulting unsuspecting readers of this message board with a litany of gibberish, egregious grammatical errors, and other verbal atrocities.
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A mathematician is a person who thinks that if there are supposed to be three people in a room, but five come out, then two more must enter the room in order for it to be empty.
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Menippos
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Posted: 30-May-2005 at 21:20 |
Or go to sleep
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Homer MakeDonski
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Posted: 31-May-2005 at 19:30 |
Seriously now Makedonski guy, when i think i have read the stupidest post ever, you just go and post another.
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maybe never before you have faced possibilities of my mother's
tongue and indication of exactness what Macedonian words could have as its possibilities
If you pointed me what is stupid in my opinion and why is stupid I could try to express my self on better way
In future kindly proofread your posts before assaulting unsuspecting
readers of this message board with a litany of gibberish, egregious
grammatical errors, and other verbal atrocities.
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For future and not for a long, I hope it will
not be associating with all mention gramatical errors
,and so far it is as it is ..
Yet ,Hopeful should be understandable that villages
are much older then City States are
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Posted: 31-May-2005 at 19:37 |
Tralalalala-lala-lala.....
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Posted: 31-May-2005 at 19:39 |
express my self on better way
express myself in a better way- the right way to say it.
Sorry it is the TEFL instincts in me!!
It is ok to make grammar errors but I think their focus was on the content. Keep working on your English skills though!!!
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Posted: 31-May-2005 at 19:44 |
Why do you insist associating the greek language of Makedonia with this
language of yours that has absolutely no relation to this region?
Makedonski is closer to Macaronski.
The dialect spoken in Makedonia is a beautiful dialect of Greek, called Makedonika Ellinika.
All others are nothing but toothpaste...
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Posted: 31-May-2005 at 22:26 |
SinceFYROMians are slavic, and slavs didnt arive in the balkans until round the 5th and 6th century, how do you, FYROMians trace any history to alexander and his "macedonia"?
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Posted: 31-May-2005 at 22:40 |
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The beginning of a revolution is in reality the end of a belief - Le Bon
Destroy first and construction will look after itself - Mao
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Posted: 31-May-2005 at 22:41 |
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The beginning of a revolution is in reality the end of a belief - Le Bon
Destroy first and construction will look after itself - Mao
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Posted: 31-May-2005 at 23:54 |
vulcan02
Don't balme me for your vivid imagination. As I said before, but you obviously neglected to read it. as i SAID:
" I'd never say that kind of stuff. "
So please inform me exactly where and when I said anything similar to
this, I honestly would appreciate it, unless you've mistaken some
kind of sarcasm and literally believed it. Then dear friend that is
your prob not mine.
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To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent.
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 01:35 |
phallax im pretty sure YOU said it ... i wouldn't think of it unless i
heard it from someone and as the posts prove you pretty good at
making sense at foreign words
too. You might have said it a sarcastic way of course cuz that
name wouldn't make sense unless you knew YOU said it. But yeah you
might have said it in a sarcastic way ( I hope ) Anyways lets just kill it although it might have been Mollosos ... but im pretty sure it was you.
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The beginning of a revolution is in reality the end of a belief - Le Bon
Destroy first and construction will look after itself - Mao
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