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Topic: Best General Of WW2 Posted: 19-Sep-2004 at 06:29 |
There is a Nazi General called Maximillian Freiherr von Weichs (spelling?) who looks almost identical to Donald Rumsfeld...
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Posted: 12-Oct-2004 at 20:46 |
I think the concensus (sp) Rommel is the best... and he gets my vote too.
I just don't think he had a chance in Normandy - and he knew it him self.
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Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 07:14 |
Best allied general, William Slim. Only Zhukov comes close.
Best Axis general, Heinz Guderian.
Why aren't they options on the poll?
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Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 20:59 |
I go for Zhukov definitely...
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Posted: 16-Oct-2004 at 09:56 |
I support Paul .Gen Slim despite his victories is the most underrated on Allied side
On German i will put gen . Hube (hero of Stalingrad,Succesfully
conducted German operations in Sycyli against Patton and Montgomery.
Succesfull comander of 1 Panzer Army during the time of "walking
cauldrons"
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Posted: 27-Oct-2004 at 07:49 |
1.) Erich von Manstein
2.) Heinz Wilhelm Guderian
3.) Karl Rudolf Gerd von Rundstedt
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Posted: 27-Oct-2004 at 11:21 |
Allied: Patton, hands down.
Axis: Rommel, he only lost the Atlantic Wall because of Hitler's interference.
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Posted: 27-Oct-2004 at 17:46 |
Ah, what the heck! I voted Rommel.
What about the Japanese? Didn't they have generals?
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Posted: 07-Nov-2004 at 12:41 |
I don't think any commander could command and organize troops on the move like George S. Patton. In a fluid battlefield situation he was unmatched as he demonstrated in his counterattack in the battle of the bulge when he took his already heavily engaged army, disengaged, tilted his axis of advance 90 degrees to push northwards into one of the worst blizzards in recent European history to attack the German flank in only a few days. The most stunning part is how he managed to shift his logistics northwards in order to supply his an entire army, the organization of it is almost unthinkable. In fact when Patton suggested his plan the other allied generals laughed thinking it was impossible.
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Posted: 09-Nov-2004 at 19:41 |
Heinz Guderian I would say was well up there. He knew how to get the job done
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Posted: 11-Nov-2004 at 18:18 |
Rommel is indeed one of the keyes why the german forces were so tough and great....or atleast i think so
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Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 02:03 |
Guderian couse german blitzkrieg is his signature
Manstein: the best, see counterattack at jarkov
Heinrici , the only german mastered in defense
wavell (a forgotten one, defeated by romel, but he swap italians whit a ridicoulous force)
Mannerhein: the finish, remenber the winter war: he only had 9 divicion agains 150, 60 planes agains 3000 thousands, and 6 tanks agains 5000. they manage to resist and the pull back the rusians. He lost end the end but he couse 200 000 deaths to russians. A man to take care.
wingate: the most original general i think i ever see, take a look at chiindits forces and u see the american air cavalry idea
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Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 03:39 |
So many of them:
...Zhukov, Konev, Rommel, Guderian, Patton, McArthur, Eisenhover, Monty...
...and what about Yamamoto?
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Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 16:35 |
Where is Von Manstein , the battle of karkov is simply a masterpiece of tactic. He beat severly russian's armies which outnumbered him 6:1. At this time german armies were retreating. Only hitler's pride forced them to stay and fight.
so having no choice i vote for Romel........of course
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Posted: 24-Nov-2004 at 08:41 |
i agree with all the people who said manstein because Germany did have all the best generals.....almost hands down...........also rommel is great
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Posted: 25-Nov-2004 at 04:30 |
German generals:Rommel,Guderian,Erich Fon Manstein
Soviet Generals:Zukov,Konief
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Posted: 07-Dec-2004 at 02:45 |
Where is Zhukov???
ZhukovZhukovZhukovZhukovZhukovZhukovZhukovZhukovZhukov!
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Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 02:23 |
as far as success goes....I ddidn't vote for Rommel. He lost most of
his battles after his defeat in nroth Africa...I voted for Patton.
however...I have the upmost respect for him because he saw what Hitler
was doing and knew it to be wrong. Rommel was involved in the plot to
assassinate Hitler. He was a true Patriot and saw the evils of Hiter
and risked his life to stop him.
Germany had some of the best Generals......but unfortunatley for them Hitler failed to listen on many occasions.
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Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 12:55 |
Not too sure why Rommel joined the plot against Hitler. Possibly it was petty because he wasn't given the command he wanted, or more general because of the bad tactics Hitler was forcing upon the army. Maybe he even only jumped on the bandwagon because he thought it would succeed and didn't want to be left out if it did.
One thing for sure, he didn't support it because he objected to any attrocities.
Also Rommel was one of Hitler's most passionate supporters from the army, which is why Hitler championed him so much as the national hero.
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Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 14:54 |
Rommel was also NOT a nazi. He never was, and he despised much of the
Nazi Party. Rommel also said that this was a war that Germany could not
win. He said that from the beginning.
He saw that the end was getting close and that Hitler would ruin all of
Germany. He decided to aid in the plot so that he could gain command
and then surrender. There was no doubt in Rommel's mind that Germany
was going to lose.
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