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Orkon
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Topic: ability Posted: 02-Mar-2006 at 11:58 |
In English -abilitiy appendix,and in Turkish same,' -ebilmek' '-ebil'
in English writ-ability
in Trkish yazl-abilir
There are too much examples,and in Trkish word 'Kaabiliyet' this word is Arabic orijin, and same appendix, Ka-abiliy-yet,
This appendix's origin,?
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Halevi
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Posted: 02-Mar-2006 at 16:07 |
Originally posted by Orkon
In English -abilitiy appendix,and in Turkish same,' -ebilmek' '-ebil'
in English writ-ability
in Trkish yazl-abilir
There are too much examples,and in Trkish word 'Kaabiliyet' this word is Arabic orijin, and same appendix, Ka-abiliy-yet,
This appendix's origin,?
My Ebglish very bad,sorry, I hope you understand |
Yes, ive also noticied this similarity. Fascinating, as Turkish and Romance langauges are not at all related (in theory).
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Posted: 02-Mar-2006 at 23:20 |
You didn't need to quote since you're posting right after him
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Posted: 03-Mar-2006 at 00:12 |
Ability seems to be a direct derivate from able (capable). It's also simmilar to Latin words of the same sort - ex. Sp. hbil (able) and habilidad (ability), where -idad suffix is the Sp. equivalent of En. -ity.
I don't know how that word reached Turk. There are two different theories that say that Uralic, Altaic and Indo-European languages are cognates but this is very contested by others. Anyhow it should be easier to find cognates in numbers or other basic words, not in such a elaborate term, so guess it's a loan or a coincidence.
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erci
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Posted: 03-Mar-2006 at 00:51 |
just a coincidence since -e bilmek and -a bilmek also used in Uyghur Turkish in forms as abirmek, ebiymek or bilermek and bolarmak.-e bilmek -a bilmek also used in Kirgiz, Tatar and Kazak.I would think loan as an option if it was a regular word but it's in fact a verb suffix used among all Turkic languages.
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Maju
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Posted: 03-Mar-2006 at 07:54 |
Just to say that ability is not a suffix: it's a whole word: the sustantivization of able (adjective). The pattern doesn't seem to be coincident with the words that Erci mentions, anyhow.
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Posted: 03-Mar-2006 at 21:31 |
just to say we use it as a suffix, it's not a word in Turkish
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Posted: 03-Mar-2006 at 21:42 |
How in the hell it could be a loan word(it's not word, just a suffix in Turkish) if all Turkic languages use it? I would agree if it is only us who use it in Turkey or Tatars in Ukraine
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Posted: 03-Mar-2006 at 22:19 |
It isn't surely a loan word: just a coincidence. Would not Orkon have suggested it, I would have never thought they had any connection at all.
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