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Topic: Nostradamus Prophecies Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 06:27 |
Originally posted by Maju
Originally posted by Voyager
... the future because it hasn't
yet happened.
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Are you sure?
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I have this lousy habit of only speaking of what I'm sure.
Are you one of those persons that believes that life is already
pre-determined by an "omnipotent force" such as God or Nature? Because
if you do, I think that a history forum is not the right place for you.
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Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 11:05 |
49 Garden of the world near the new city, In the path of the hollow mountains: It will be seized and plunged into the Tub, Forced to drink waters poisoned by sulfur.
Calif?
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Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 14:09 |
Originally posted by Maju
"The centuries" are a sequance of quatrains (poems of 4 verses) are
organized in 10 centuries, mostly of 100 quatrains each but some with
less. Then there are other related or unrelated prophecies. |
So why are they all called "predictions", when most of what he wrote already happened?
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Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 16:34 |
I- 87 Earthshaking fire from the center of the earth will cause tremors around the New City. Two great rocks will war for a long time, then Arethusa will redden a new river.
two great rocks will war together( tectonic plates)?
Arethusa ( goddess of the stream of lava )
Garden of the world near the new city, In the path of the hollow mountains: It will be seized and plunged into the Tub, Forced to drink waters poisoned by sulfur
hollow mountians( 16century view Of skyscrapers? )
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Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 17:05 |
III- 91
In the city of the new-born bears,
the gates will open for those,
who fly high on currents of the north wind
and drink water from gilden cups.
Germany will win the WC in 2006.
Although you don't need Nostradamus to work that out.
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Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 17:29 |
I.70
Rain, famine and war will not cease in Persia;
too great a faith will betray the monarch.
Those (actions) started in France will end there,
a secret sign for on to be sparing.
intend to Khomieni & After islamic rev.?? if yes, 1st line is 100% true
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Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 00:12 |
III97 New law to occupy the new land Towards Syria, Judea and Palestine: The great barbarian empire to decay, Before the Moon completes it cycle.
98 Two royal brothers will wage war so fiercely That between them the war will be so mortal That both will occupy the strong places: Their great quarrel will fill realm and life.
Now this sounds like the sons of Abraham, a quarrel that still going on today.
I don`t really believe in any prophecies, however I like to try and figure them out.
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Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 02:12 |
Originally posted by Land of Aryan
I.70
Rain, famine and war will not cease in Persia;
too great a faith will betray the monarch.
Those (actions) started in France will end there,
a secret sign for on to be sparing.
intend to Khomieni & After islamic rev.?? if yes, 1st line is 100% true
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I do agree that this century talks of the Islamic revolution. How do you read the last verse?
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Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 02:15 |
Originally posted by docyabut
III97 New law to occupy the new land Towards Syria, Judea and Palestine: The great barbarian empire to decay, Before the Moon completes it cycle.
98 Two royal brothers will wage war so fiercely That between them the war will be so mortal That both will occupy the strong places: Their great quarrel will fill realm and life.
Now this sounds like the sons of Abraham, a quarrel that still going on today.
I don`t really believe in any prophecies, however I like to try and figure them out.
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I do read the first quatrain as the fall of Ottoman Empire and the rise of Israel. But the second does't mean to me what you see. Most quatrains seem isolated from each other, what makes their study frustrating... I imagine there's a numeric code to put the verses together in a coherent narration but I fail to find it.
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Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 02:19 |
Originally posted by Voyager
Originally posted by Maju
Originally posted by Voyager
... the future because it hasn't
yet happened.
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Are you sure?
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I have this lousy habit of only speaking of what I'm sure.
Are you one of those persons that believes that life is already
pre-determined by an "omnipotent force" such as God or Nature? Because
if you do, I think that a history forum is not the right place for you.
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You are too sure of what you think you are sure. I don't believe in predestination but in the inexistence of time. Time can only be mathematized as an imaginary number (square root of -1), what do you make out of that? What do you make out of the 10 dimensions that seem necesary to explain the Universe? I say that we live in a videogame but that there is more outside it.
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Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 04:34 |
Originally posted by Maju
I say that we live in a videogame but that there is more outside it.
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Could it be that Maju believes in higher instances?
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Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 04:49 |
I've read several interpretations of Nostradamus, and they all seem to
describe variations on the same theme. The scenario goes
something like this: sometime around the beginning of the 21st century,
a force ("Mabus"--the Antichrist) will arise somewhere in Asia.
This force will come to dominate Asia, then it will commence a campaign
of world conquest by joining forces with allies in the Islamic
world. The Eastern/Islamic forces would then invade Europe and
launch attacks on their arch-enemies described by Nostradamus as "two
brothers of the North." These brothers are usually identified as
America and its European allies, but sometimes Russia is described as
partnered with America. Eventually, however, some great hero
(called "Prince Henry" by Nostradamus) will arise and lead the Western
world to ultimate victory over Mabus. Before that happens though,
a great conflagration would ensue in a WWIII scenario in which weapons
of mass destruction are used.
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Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 07:15 |
Originally posted by Maju
You are too sure of what you think you are sure. I don't believe in predestination but in the inexistence of time.
Time
can only be mathematized as an imaginary number (square root of -1),
what do you make out of that? What do you make out of the 10 dimensions
that seem necesary to explain the Universe?
I say that we live in a videogame but that there is more outside it.
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Your mental contortions will never cease to surprise me. Youve been
talking about predestination and now you turn to inexistence of time.
Well, for your information, history is about time. And a human time,
not a time already made by gods or whatever and to which some
enlightened humans have privileged access. If you dont believe in
human time, then feel free to leave this forum.
Originally posted by docyabut
I don`t really believe in any prophecies, however I like to try and figure them out.
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Oxymoron.
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Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 08:37 |
I never said that there is predestination. That term implies that the future WAS designed in the past. I don't think that's possible. The past and the future ARE created simultaneously both in this space-time and (probably) in the WHOLE. As above, as below. As below, as above.
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human time, then feel free to leave this forum. |
I feel free to do it, naturally.
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Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 08:47 |
Originally posted by Scytho-Sarmatian
I've read several interpretations of Nostradamus, and they all seem to
describe variations on the same theme. The scenario goes
something like this: sometime around the beginning of the 21st century,
a force ("Mabus"--the Antichrist) will arise somewhere in Asia. |
There's an obsession with Mabus but this character is only mentioned once in all the Centuries.
This force will come to dominate Asia, then it will commence a campaign
of world conquest by joining forces with allies in the Islamic
world. The Eastern/Islamic forces would then invade Europe and
launch attacks on their arch-enemies described by Nostradamus as "two
brothers of the North." These brothers are usually identified as
America and its European allies, but sometimes Russia is described as
partnered with America. Eventually, however, some great hero
(called "Prince Henry" by Nostradamus) will arise and lead the Western
world to ultimate victory over Mabus. Before that happens though,
a great conflagration would ensue in a WWIII scenario in which weapons
of mass destruction are used.
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I am unable to conclude all that. To me the centuries seem to predict some events quite accurately (particularly those that are dated, but also others like the above mentioned of the Iranian revolution, Napoleon, Hitler and others). Yet the next quatrain seems to be talking about something totally unconnected in most cases. I find impossible (so far) to reconstruct a foresighted history without what would seem to be a code to order the quatrains in a meaningful whole. I don't see any WWIII as such but there's a mention to the "Crusaders arrayed in Mesopotamia" and then a mention to Persia or Carmania getting all the Near East for some time and bloody fight in Italy particularly. But it can well be delusion...
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Posted: 28-Feb-2006 at 08:22 |
Originally posted by Maju
As above, as below. As below, as above. .
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!!?? Maju knows about Hermes Trismegistos...and quotes it??Doesn't sound like any commie I know! Well done Maju!! That's the kind of communism we need!
Btw, it's true - there is no past and future in the way most of us imagine them...
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Posted: 28-Feb-2006 at 21:50 |
Originally posted by ArmenianSurvival
Originally posted by Maju
"The centuries" are a sequance of quatrains (poems of 4 verses) are
organized in 10 centuries, mostly of 100 quatrains each but some with
less. Then there are other related or unrelated prophecies. |
So why are they all called "predictions", when most of what he wrote already happened?
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Ehm... supposedly not. Supposedly the book contains information on what happened or will happen but always after N. wrote it (not before).
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Posted: 02-Mar-2006 at 04:33 |
The only code in the bible that was asked to figure it out. 666
A mark put on his people not to buy or sell without the mark.
Saddam Hussein (Mabus mirrored is "Sudam")
S/RES/687 (1991) 8 April 1991
RESOLUTION 687 (1991) Adopted by the Security Council at its 2981st meeting, on 3 April 1991
The Security Council,
Recalling its resolutions 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990, 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 662 (1990) of 9 August 1990, 664 (1990) of 18 August 1990, 665 (1990) of 25 August 1990, 666 (1990) of 13 September 1990, 667 (1990) of 16 September 1990, 669 (1990) of 24 September 1990, 670 (1990) of 25 September 1990, 674 (1990) of 29 October 1990, 677 (1990) of 28 November 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990 and 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991,
http://www.iraqwatch.org/un/unscresolutions/s-res-687.htm
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Posted: 02-Mar-2006 at 04:38 |
how many sixes do you want
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Posted: 02-Mar-2006 at 04:49 |
doea anyone has a pic of how these 666 are supposed to look like as a signe of the antichrist.
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