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Jay.
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Topic: Serbian Medieval History Posted: 01-Dec-2005 at 16:01 |
having trouble with this..
I have some of the Medieval Serbian Rulers..
Lazar, Prince Oliver, Despot Uros, King Vladislav II, King Milutin, King
Anyone have any others?
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Posted: 01-Dec-2005 at 16:41 |
Check Wikipedia:
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Thanks.
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STEFAN DUSAN how can u miss STEFAN DUSAN?!
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I knew it!!
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Posted: 17-Dec-2005 at 17:40 |
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STEFAN DUSAN how can u miss STEFAN DUSAN?! |
CAR DUSAN, it was STEFAN nemanja, who originated from doclea(the frist
name of montenegro), whse descendants were the rulers of serbia....
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Posted: 23-Dec-2005 at 18:49 |
I find that Serbs are very close to Poles.... Is this true? Did Serbs migrate from Poland northern Eastern Europe area?
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Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 07:09 |
Originally posted by HistoryGuy
I find that Serbs are very close to Poles.... Is this
true? Did Serbs migrate from Poland northern Eastern Europe
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All Slavs come from Poland/Belarus but they have mixed heavily with natives of the regions they settled in the Middle Ages.
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Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 15:14 |
i seriously thought they came from an area in turkey...
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Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 21:19 |
No, Serbs didn't come from Turkey... But, many Serbs have Turkish blood in them now-a-days, because some Serbs married Turks.
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Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 21:20 |
Serbs are a very old people, and interesting
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Posted: 24-Dec-2005 at 21:40 |
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i seriously thought they came from an area in turkey... |
No. That makes no sense. Slavic migrations, starting c. 700 CE, took
out from Poland and nearby regions, their native homeland since about
the Bronze Age.
But they obviously didn't migrate to virgin lands nor displaced the
natives significatively: they mixed heavily with them. In this sense
Southern Slavs are probably closer to their non-Slavic neighbours
(Rumanians, Hungarians) than to Poles.
In any case they never came from Turkey. Another very diferent thing is
that Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia and Bulgaria were for many centuries
under Ottoman rule.
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Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 00:08 |
Serbia had been independent at various points in time, the Ottoman conquest in 1389 kept Serbia submissive until 1878, when it reestablished its independence.
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I wouldnt say that Serbs are closer to their non slav nieghbors then to Poles. Serbian and Polish have a similar language, and they both looks slavic, there traditions are similar, and the serbs od indeed come form western polend when they settled there before coming form the Caucasus probabaly. The croats settled eastern-southern poland and established a kingdom called Chrobatia centered in Krakow.
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Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 06:46 |
Chrobatia was also known as "White Croatia." Do people from
eastern-southern Poland retain any identification with "White Croats"?
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Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 11:37 |
Originally posted by Sarmata
I wouldnt say that Serbs are closer to their non slav
nieghbors then to Poles. Serbian and Polish have a similar language,
and they both looks slavic, there traditions are similar, and the serbs
od indeed come form western polend when they settled there before
coming form the Caucasus probabaly. The croats settled eastern-southern
poland and established a kingdom called Chrobatia centered in
Krakow. |
language yes
look probably no bosnians and serbs and croats look similar but they also look more similar to albanians than poles
migratory tribes never numbered in millions of member maybe in hundreds
of thousands if ever so high - i.e. the barbaric german kingdoms of the
west had perhaps fifty thousands franks, a hundred or so thousand
goths, that is why they retained the romance languages and the latin
roman culture for so long, which eventually was molded locally into
unique cultures that had a common ancestry. same with the balkans
the only difference the slavs "slavicized" the inhabitants of the
region, as the bulgars were slavicized even though the ruling class was
of non slavic deascant, but most bulgars today would because the real
bulgar tribe did not number in ten million people. migrations do
not happen is such high numbers at least not two thousand years ago it
was logistically impossible to travel in such high numbers.
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Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 12:01 |
Yeah, I would agree with Teknique..
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 16:00 |
Originally posted by Scytho-Sarmatian
Chrobatia was also known as "White Croatia." Do people from
eastern-southern Poland retain any identification with "White Croats"?
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I haven't met anyone who called themselves White Croatian, I have read that some immigrants from that region when coming to America identified themselves as White Croatian.
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 16:03 |
Originally posted by ill_teknique
Originally posted by Sarmata
I wouldnt say that Serbs are closer to their non slav
nieghbors then to Poles. Serbian and Polish have a similar language,
and they both looks slavic, there traditions are similar, and the serbs
od indeed come form western polend when they settled there before
coming form the Caucasus probabaly. The croats settled eastern-southern
poland and established a kingdom called Chrobatia centered in
Krakow. |
language yes
look probably no bosnians and serbs and croats look similar but they also look more similar to albanians than poles
migratory tribes never numbered in millions of member maybe in hundreds
of thousands if ever so high - i.e. the barbaric german kingdoms of the
west had perhaps fifty thousands franks, a hundred or so thousand
goths, that is why they retained the romance languages and the latin
roman culture for so long, which eventually was molded locally into
unique cultures that had a common ancestry. same with the balkans
the only difference the slavs "slavicized" the inhabitants of the
region, as the bulgars were slavicized even though the ruling class was
of non slavic deascant, but most bulgars today would because the real
bulgar tribe did not number in ten million people. migrations do
not happen is such high numbers at least not two thousand years ago it
was logistically impossible to travel in such high numbers.
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I would say you are right, majority of Serbs and Bosnians do look more similra to Alabaniana, but I have seena share of sebs and croats with the typical dark blond blue eyed look thta most Poles have. Also there are Poles aorund, I know of one who looks more Turkish with dark skin and dark eyes.
I might have misunderstood but just to clear up, are you saying that Serbs and Croats are just a Slavicized people and not really slavic at all?
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