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    Posted: 10-Aug-2011 at 22:30
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I agree.  Also crocodiles kill by rolling over on their prey in shallow waters and drowning it.  That technique is not going to work in the open ocean.
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  Quote Beefheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Aug-2011 at 17:48
I vote the Great White over the Salty.

I believe the Great White will rarely present opportunity to the Salty.

But if the Salty is crossing the seas, Great Whites hunt their prey from below and can even ram their prey like a runaway locomotive. The Great White can disembowel a Salty with those Ginsu lined choppers in a single bite.

Saltys are the masters of the river and swamps but Great Whites are the masters of the oceans and seas.
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Crocodile vs. Shark? I'm sure the shark is going to be the winner. What you said are all right, it is true that crocodile will die after a one big bite of a shark but the shark is not going to be killed by a small bites of crocodile. This whole scenario suggests that sharks are the true kings of the sea, however, this fact doesn't spared those sea mammals from experiencing man's cruelty. Now, there are many mysterious shark deaths. The proof is here: Dead shark mysteries pile up in 2011.   
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Shark is more danger. 
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  Quote MillerA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2011 at 11:36
To be fair that's a pretty small shark and was probably hindered when in the crocodile's habitat. Regardless, I think a crocodile would win in almost all cases. It's weight and protective skin would make it difficult for a shark's teeth to penetrate. There's a video on youtube of a medium sized shark getting killed my an octopus of the same size. I'm not more scared of an octopus than I am a shark when I go snorkeling.
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  Quote ranjithvnambiar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Dec-2010 at 08:13
A 20feet long maneater Nile crocodile from Burundi is known to have killed and devoured an adult Hippo.The crocodile is notorius and is known as Gustave.

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I think the crocodile win, because I can just see in the picture that the crocodile ate the shark. The crocodile is one of the dangerous one EVER!Unhappy

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  Quote ranjithvnambiar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Oct-2010 at 05:03
Originally posted by opuslola

Posted above (by ranjithvnambiar) were these words;

"While a great white tries to rip off whatever comes in its jaw ,a saltwater croc will crush whatever is caught between its jaws.."

Yes, this seems correct, but if a typical shark is made mostly of muscle and fat, with a soft bone structure called cartilage, then what is there to crush?

It seems that if blood loss or death via asphixiation does not happen, and the Crock releases the Shark (to take another bite or breath?), then the Shark is temporally at least, free to return to the attack mostly unharmed!

But, if the shark takes a big bite from the soft underbellie of the Crock and removes a large piece, then the Crock will soon die!

Crushing and submerging prey (to drown them) is one thing! But a Crock has to breathe also?

Perhaps, for our fun time, we should also interject the Hippo into the brawls? Shark, Croc and Hippo in a free for all?

So let's have a 22 foot White Shark and a 22 foot salty Croc, and a 15 foot long Hippo, all kept hungry and placed in a pool of water that varies from 40 feet deep to shallow water, and let the fun began?

It would definately be a hit on You-tube!

I'll throw the cabbages, crippled seals and bloodied mullet in first!
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You mean to say a 5000psi bite will do nothing to a shark...?
Human thigh also consists of muscles and flesh centre of which is a single bone.I you place your thigh on an anvil and then hit it with a 10kg hammer nothing will happen to your thigh ..right..?
Or say you place your thighs in a bench vice and then close it fully.. and afterwards release it fully..Nothing will happen to your thigh..? 
well great imagination!!!!!
And about crocs breathing ..I hope this link will be useful

It says if pressed a croc can remain underwater for 2 hours..

Apart from that a shark is known to rip off parts of the prey's body which fits its mouth or goes inside its mouth..in case it cannot engulf the part it will just maul it and not rip off.Seals and  other sharks which are bitten  and engulfed by the great white are known to be torn into pieces but not bigger preys whose size is bigger than the radius of the shark's mouth.
So ripping off the belly of a croc is a possibility that we can think of but not a reality.How can a shark ripp of a croc's belly which is much bigger than its mouth.
A croc's mouth is entirely different fron that of a shark it is long narrow and can hold on to substances whose dia is more than 3 feet 

And many cases are recorded in which Orcas or killer whales preyed upon great whites by inducing tonic immobility in great whites by holding and keeping them still for 15 minutes causing it to suffocate and then proceeds to eat the liver of the dead shark.
So immobility is likely to kill the shark.

And if a Hippo also is included in the scenario as mentioned by you then both croc and shark are in real danger.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Oct-2010 at 16:26
Posted above (by ranjithvnambiar) were these words;

"While a great white tries to rip off whatever comes in its jaw ,a saltwater croc will crush whatever is caught between its jaws.."

Yes, this seems correct, but if a typical shark is made mostly of muscle and fat, with a soft bone structure called cartilage, then what is there to crush?

It seems that if blood loss or death via asphixiation does not happen, and the Crock releases the Shark (to take another bite or breath?), then the Shark is temporally at least, free to return to the attack mostly unharmed!

But, if the shark takes a big bite from the soft underbellie of the Crock and removes a large piece, then the Crock will soon die!

Crushing and submerging prey (to drown them) is one thing! But a Crock has to breathe also?

Perhaps, for our fun time, we should also interject the Hippo into the brawls? Shark, Croc and Hippo in a free for all?

So let's have a 22 foot White Shark and a 22 foot salty Croc, and a 15 foot long Hippo, all kept hungry and placed in a pool of water that varies from 40 feet deep to shallow water, and let the fun began?

It would definately be a hit on You-tube!

I'll throw the cabbages, crippled seals and bloodied mullet in first!
Regards,

Edited by opuslola - 28-Oct-2010 at 16:33
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  Quote Cryptic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Oct-2010 at 13:28
Originally posted by ranjithvnambiar

Yesterday I saw Spartan warrior Vs. Ninja.But it seems to be  a fight of the participants rather than between spartans & ninjas.Those who argues and proves his point will win not spartan warrior or ninja
True, but there is some good historical information about weapons and some interesting demonstrations.  As a side note, there is a Sikh verse Roman episode.  But... the show was mis-identifying the Sikhs as a RajputsOuchConfusedEmbarrassed.
 
www.spike.com/blog/deadliest-warrior/95779


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  Quote ranjithvnambiar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Oct-2010 at 03:53
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Originally posted by TheOrcRemix


I feel like this question is a lot like that Spike TV show, "The Deadliest Warrior." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadliest_Warrior).
 
Though off topic, I am a Deadliest Warrior fanSmile.  Sure, the show had hype and shallow points, but it was also marketed as "edu-tainment", not "scholarly research".  The show also had many very good demonstrations of weapon / armour design and human martial arts abilities.
 
How come you do not like the show?

Yesterday I saw Spartan warrior Vs. Ninja.But it seems to be  a fight of the participants rather than between spartans & ninjas.Those who argues and proves his point will win not spartan warrior or ninja
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  Quote PakistaniShield Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Oct-2010 at 16:06
you can open it and check it on youtbe. while the scenario was recreated using CGI it was based on a real fight. i think the real thing was too graphic to meet youtube's guideline's; hence recreated in 3D format
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Oct-2010 at 15:53
PakistaniShield, for some reason the video will not or can not be shown due to the request of the poster!

Can you give us the details?

Never mind, I finally saw that it was merely a made up video!

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  Quote Cryptic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Oct-2010 at 11:23
Originally posted by TheOrcRemix

[quote] The show can be summed up in one sentence; "Who has the bigger "Johnson?" Wink
I agree, but I still hope it runs a few more seasons.  I mean, where else can you watch somebody try (and fail) to cut through European chain mail with a Japanese Katana?
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  Quote TheOrcRemix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Oct-2010 at 23:55
How come you do not like the show?


It's an entertaining show. I really do not like the individual(s) who talks about the weapons/warrior style of the warrior they represent. The show can be summed up in one sentence; "Who has the bigger "Johnson?" Wink
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  Quote Cryptic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Oct-2010 at 15:03
Originally posted by TheOrcRemix


I feel like this question is a lot like that Spike TV show, "The Deadliest Warrior." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadliest_Warrior).
 
Though off topic, I am a Deadliest Warrior fanSmile.  Sure, the show had hype and shallow points, but it was also marketed as "edu-tainment", not "scholarly research".  The show also had many very good demonstrations of weapon / armour design and human martial arts abilities.
 
How come you do not like the show?


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  Quote TheOrcRemix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Oct-2010 at 14:42
Weight ratio has been given in my earlier mails and scenario can be any you may need to go through all the posts to have a better understanding


You could of just said they are roughly the same size... (16-20)

It defnitely is not like solving x when there are 10 variables


Oh really? Can you please elaborate by what you mean by "Crocodile vs. Shark?" Is the winner determined by how strong they are, or perhaps how swift they can maneuver? Or is the winner declared by how many real-world victories?

If that is the case, then the answer has been solved. Case closed.

However, if one wants to look more in depth (which i believe what you want to do, you seem to be very intrigued by this topic), One must account for different factors.( i.e. Aggression, environmental factors, Group behaviors) to find the answer.

I feel like this question is a lot like that Spike TV show, "The Deadliest Warrior." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadliest_Warrior).
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  Quote ranjithvnambiar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Oct-2010 at 00:51
Originally posted by TheOrcRemix

This is an impractical question. There are simply too many intangibles to solve for. What is the weight discrepancy of the Croc to the Shark? Where is the battleground? is the water murky? is the water shallow? This is like trying to solve for X when there are 10 variables.

Weight ratio has been given in my earlier mails and scenario can be any you may need to go through all the posts to have a better understanding.It defnitely is not like solving x when there are 10 variables
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This is an impractical question. There are simply too many intangibles to solve for. What is the weight discrepancy of the Croc to the Shark? Where is the battleground? is the water murky? is the water shallow? This is like trying to solve for X when there are 10 variables.
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