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    Posted: 23-May-2008 at 05:29
Sweet game I'm using the total realism mod too and makes the game even more historical accurate. Although I'm still a noob at this game.
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Mar-2008 at 17:34
latest patch for armaggedon has been released, which adresses all major issues. there are still some minor anoyances but all game-breakign bugs have been repaired. Smile
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  Quote vulkan02 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Feb-2008 at 05:50
Thanks for the tip Temujin. Its much easier now that I've figured out how to pause it.
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Feb-2008 at 18:01
you need to improve economy (industrial capacity = IC) and ensure  you won't eventually run out of ressources, manpower and TC (=transport capacity). so focus on those techs and of course don't neglect to update your army. change ministers accordingly, preferably those who give IC bonus and remove those who give a bad bonus.
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  Quote vulkan02 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Feb-2008 at 05:38
A friend gave me IH2 Armaggedon and boy I was blown away by this game's complexity. There just so much stuff to handle, how do you know what to do first?!
Played with Italy in 1939 scenario and got crushed by France and UK as soon as the war erupted... 
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Dec-2007 at 19:51
yeah and most of the new stuff doesn't work anyways
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'64!!!
I have only the basic version (free from a magazine), where you can play until 31 december 1947!
Is this '64 version a patch, or infact an expansion (for which one will have to pay)?
 
   Armageddon's like a huge patch rather than an expansion. You have to pay like $5.99 or something like that...just for the heck of it.
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 22:55
there are two expansions to HoI2, the first one is called Armageddon where you can continue play until Stalins death ('53). the second one is called Armaggedon which lets you play until '64.
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  Quote xristar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 21:57
'64!!!
I have only the basic version (free from a magazine), where you can play until 31 december 1947!
Is this '64 version a patch, or infact an expansion (for which one will have to pay)?

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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Dec-2007 at 02:31
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actually you can only play to the year '64, that doesn't mean that all the events and personalities were included as well. Unhappy they only included the countries, but without minsiters, eladers etc it is pretty flavourless and pointless. also, i find the Chiense theatre unbearable. in one of the patches they turned Chian into a secodn himalayas, they turned almost every terrain, in aprticular in the south into hill or moutnian terrain to slow down the Japanse AI advance. to coutner that, human players resort to unrealistic gameplay, that is buildign loads of moutaineers and cavalry, soemthign the Japanese almost didn't had at all. also China itself is pretty unrealistic, but thats mostly due to the game physics. the problem is, China has too few divisions and too much IC, basically. the problem is, China should be able to produce innumerous infantry divisions etc, but no native hardware, like tanks, ships & planes. this is a game aspect that is still the major flaw of an otherwise great game unsurpassed in detail and accuracy.
 
   Yeah I think the only reason why it sustained me for so long was because I've refrained from playing as China. I'd even played as the Japanese once, which was pretty fun, but i've never once touched China.
 
   Yeah it would be pretty crappy if you can play till '64, but without events like the Korean war, Cuban missile crisis and Indo-china and such.
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Dec-2007 at 19:59
actually you can only play to the year '64, that doesn't mean that all the events and personalities were included as well. Unhappy they only included the countries, but without minsiters, eladers etc it is pretty flavourless and pointless. also, i find the Chiense theatre unbearable. in one of the patches they turned Chian into a secodn himalayas, they turned almost every terrain, in aprticular in the south into hill or moutnian terrain to slow down the Japanse AI advance. to coutner that, human players resort to unrealistic gameplay, that is buildign loads of moutaineers and cavalry, soemthign the Japanese almost didn't had at all. also China itself is pretty unrealistic, but thats mostly due to the game physics. the problem is, China has too few divisions and too much IC, basically. the problem is, China should be able to produce innumerous infantry divisions etc, but no native hardware, like tanks, ships & planes. this is a game aspect that is still the major flaw of an otherwise great game unsurpassed in detail and accuracy.
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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Dec-2007 at 17:07
Oh...haven't touched HOI2 for about a year now...
  
   EU3 I've bought when it first cam out and only played it for a week or two. The only thing in the collectors edition I use on a regular basis is the oversized shirt it came with.
 
   I hear with the lasted patch on HOI2 you can play up till the '60's. With Vietnam War and such it should be pretty interesting...but too busy conquering everyone as the Mongols in MTWII Kingdoms SS mod to give a crap about anything....lol
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  Quote Justinian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Nov-2007 at 22:49
Sun Tzu - have you tried amazon.com?  I got hearts of iron I and Crusader Kings in a package for like 10 dollars. 
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  Quote Sun Tzu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Nov-2007 at 12:31
Where do you get HOI 2?
 
Iv'e checked Walmart, Bestbuy
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Nov-2007 at 21:22
it is pretty normal that a game with a superpower doesn't last longer than '47 or so, depends on what your goals are. if playign germany, you only need to invade britain (which is rather easy) and to defeat the reds, which is also rather easy for experienced players. once you are beyodn that point, the only serious ressistance left is the US but by now you have enough IC to outproduce them and the game gets really boring.
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  Quote Justinian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Nov-2007 at 03:37
My compliments, you guys seem to be pretty good.  Would you guys follow realistic outcomes often or completely go fantasty; like declaring war in 36' versus allowing the events to fire - anchluss, Molotov agreement etc.
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  Quote Scheich Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2007 at 22:38
No in 12 years by Difficulty stage normal I started with Poland, Hungary and Yugoslavia in1939. After Norway and France in 1940 I attacked the RN with many tactical bombers and put 24 divisions on Dover.
In 1941 I took West-Russia and in 1942 Italy, Vichy, India and the Middle East.
In 1943 I conquered Sibiria and then I began to build a fleet and many torpedo-bomber. I cleaned the north Atlantic and but 240 German Divisions on Newfoundland in 1945. I used the IJN as cannon fodder.
In 1948 I had north and South Amerka. In 1949 Afrika and Australia. In 1950 I banned Japan and the japanese puppet China and attacked it.
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  Quote Sun Tzu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2007 at 12:35
I've only played the first one, I usually play the Germans, but whenever I play the Americans, I go to reorganize the Navy, the game crashes.
 
Playing the Germans is great, I start in 1936 and I conquered Siam for Rubber, so when I go to war with UK I take over Singapore. and I just add tons of escort Destroyers to the convoy.
 
I really dont play HOI anymore, I play Med2TW, but can anyone tell me where to get HOI 2?
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  Quote Justinian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2007 at 01:26
The 70 IC part was industrial capacity.  From what I understand that would be the same thing as transport capacity in HoI II, so yes, that is technically what I mean.  I have read about this transport capacity feature in HoI II, if you have played that and HoI I, I'm curious what your thoughts are on it. 
 
Companies you say?  Now that sounds intriguing...
 
What setting was that german campaign on?  You were able to conquer the entire world in a 15 year span?  Now that is most impressive.
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