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rider 
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It was indeed. I believe it is included... however, I can't be sure.
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Red_Lord
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Posted: 07-Aug-2007 at 10:15 |
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What about Trebizond?I think it also was independent. |
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Explorador
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I wouldn't say Navarre is a Basque region... It's claimed by Basque nationalists but Basque speakers are only a minority. Only a few zones are bilingual and only about 20% of population would like to join to the Basque Country. And I don't think it was a predecessor to Aragon, it was just another kingdom.
If I remember correctly, Navarre was assimilated by Castille almost at the same time the kingdom of Granada was conquered by Isabella and Ferdinand. However, Navarre kept its own laws and even nowadays some laws are different in Navarre than in other regions or Spain.
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Balain d Ibelin
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Posted: 14-Jul-2007 at 19:25 |
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Let's go on it....
Kingdom of Leon
Leon was a principality build maybe from the development of the Kingdom of Asturias... The Principality, situated in the Northern Areas of Spain and fortified by some mountains resisted from the Moslems but their Free Areas on the Valleys caused some headquarters for Bandits and Raiders.. The Kingdom of Leon was an ally which has specials to the Umayyad Spain.But, in 1070s, the time of Rodrigo Diaz, the "El-Cid", the relation started to broke and War started.. After 1100s, for the history... Refer to the "Castile" Note.
Kingdom of Navarre
Navarre... Hard... Navarre was a Basque region Kingdom which (maybe..maybe..) the Predecessor of the Kingdom of Aragorn and maybe also some of its region conquered by Leon. That's what I know...
Emirate of Majorca
 Kingdom of Portugal
At first, Portugal was an empty land with no Kingdom or Fiefs. Only villages and minor cities. In late-Medieval, Portugal developed to became Kingdom.. They were monopolys of Fish trade. One of their Princes, Henrique, half-Potuguese half-English, obsessed to conquer the Fish trading World. He ordered an expedition to the Madeira Islands, there, he made the biggest fishing Ship of the World. After conquering most of the Fish trading world, his exploration didn't stopped there, after that, he ordered the fleet to Africa, kidnapping some Africans as Slaves and finally reaching Cape Horn and round it back to Portugal again. After that, Portugal set up a colony in Africa, baptisizing some native Kings... In that time also, the Portuguese fiught a naval War against Spanish.. And there the Medieval history of Europe ends.
Umayyad Caliphate of Spain
The Umayyad Caliphate of Spain was satrted and found by the exiling Prince, Abdul Rahman. He escaped the killings expedition by Abul Abbas of the Abbasids, he was absent from the "death dinner" but he was then chased by the Abbasids assasins, he swam into the River Euphrates with his brother, his brother came back to the river side and was killed, seeing this, Abdul Rahman keep swimming and reches the other end and "smuggled" to Morocco. He was helped by his trusty friends and reached Morocco safely. Then Abdul Rahman was invited to Spain by his loyal friends. He then became a Commander and finally became the Emir Abdur Rahman III and sets up the Umayyad monarch at Spain which lasts until hte 12th Centuries.. The Umayyads ruled the Al-Andalus with wisdom, but in 1100s they were disturbed by the Al-Murabitins (the Almoravids in English). Slowly and finally they declined into decay and ruins...
Nasrid Kingdom of Grenada
Next up..West Europe
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Anton
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Posted: 04-Jul-2007 at 18:31 |
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At its end, Second Bulgarian Empire was split on three:
1. Vidin Tsardom
2. Turnovo Tsardom
3. Despotate of Dobruja (=Principiality of Karvuna)
There were plenty of small states in Macedonia and South Serbia but I do not remember their names.
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Explorador
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Posted: 04-Jul-2007 at 15:14 |
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Technically, there wasn't a country called Spain in 1492. Ferdinand and Isabella never called themselves King or Queen of Spain, and Castillians and Aragonese were consider foreigners in the other kingdom. The laws and institutions were slowly unified in the following centuries.
I think Galicia used to be a kingdom, but eventually became part of Leon, or maybe Castille. Castille and Leon were united and divided more than once during the Middle Ages, if I remember correctly, by marriages.
The Kingdom of Asturias is considered the first Christian kingdom after the Muslim invassion, and eventually became the Kingdom of Leon.
Before they became part of the Crown of Aragon, what is know Catalonia was known as Catalan Counties. There were four kingdoms in the Crown of Aragon: Aragon, Catalonia, Valencia and Majorca (the Balearic Islands).
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Balain d Ibelin
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Posted: 03-Jul-2007 at 19:28 |
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Let's continue.. Iberia
Kingdom of Galicia
Gallicia?? Umm... do you mean Kingdom of Asturias?
Kingdom of Castile
Castile was a Zealous and Pious Catholic Kingdom brought to life at the time of Rodrigo Diaz (El-Cid). It maybe founded by some Leon nobles. Castile fought many battles against the Moors to reconquest Spain, at their Early times, they set up a rivalry with Aragon and the people of Basque (This rivlry is still set up until now, check the reaction of the Catalonians when Real Madrid wins this season, if you don't believe..
  )Leon was conquered by the Castileans (or maybe united ??
) finally at 1230. After that, the temper with the Basques are lowering.. And then they became friends, but they're not United, the War against the Moors are still fought..... And in late 1300-s, a country came into being and set up a Naval and economic powerhouse of the Mediterranian, Portugal. Portugal sets up a rivalry with the Spanish (both Castile and Aragon) on Naval. The pope is a bit implicated with this... He said the Portuguese are the right side, and ordered the Spanish to resign..Then, the "Los Reinos Catolicos", Ferdinand and Isabella, unite Aragon and Castile to became one, which is Spain. And they're fanatics (The king and the queen).. thay finally swept Spain from the Moslems (And also Jews). The non-catholics who were baptized and stay in Spain were Inquisited, if Guilty, they're burnt..
And there the history of Castile (with a little of Aragon history) ended. Since 31 August 1492, they became Spain.
County of Barcelona
I don't think it was a county. I think it was a part (or even Capital) of Aragon.
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rider
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Empire of Nicaea, I believe is thought here as the part of the former Eastern Empire that was left independent after the Latins took Constantinople in 1204 and was later ruled by the Despot of Nicaea.
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Balain d Ibelin
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Posted: 03-Jul-2007 at 07:57 |
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Come on up again...
County of Tripoli
The COunty of Tripoli is one of the 4 Crusader States. BUT....
I also needed help for this one actually
 . Latin Empire
What do you mean? Do you mean this as the Byzantines? I know much about the Byzantines...
Empire of Nicaea
Nicaea?? Umm... I consider Nicaea as a part of the Byzantine Empire, so, it's not an independent Empire.
Empire of Trebizond
Like Nicaea, but Trebizond is independent, you know.. But I don't think it was an Empire maybe Emirate or somewhat... One think I know about this: -It stretches at the coast of Turkey which faces the Black Sea and the Capital was Trabzon.
Despoatate of Rhodes
*NOTE*: This case is same as Nicaea
Kingdom of Cyprus
Once, when Cyprus fell to Crusaders, it was at the hands of the Hospitallers, but soon it became an independent Kingdom. After fall of Jerusalem, the Royal Family of Cyprus were mostly also became the King of Jerusalem. Kingdom of Cyprus gone in about early 1200s, maybe about the time of Sack of Constantinople (1204), after that, it fell to the hands of the Hospitallers again. However, the Venetians and the Franks are the one who controlled the government of Cyprus.
Kingdom of Acre
Acre?? Huh... *NOTE*:Same case as Nicaea but with different Kingdom, which is the Kingdom of Jerusalem.
Ayyubid Sultanate
Yes.. The Ayyubid Sultanate was the dynasty that made up of Saladin and his royal family. Its heart was at Egypt, Saladin made the name 'Ayyubid' from the name of his father, Al-Ayyub of Damascus. Saladin's first war to structure this Monarch wasn't the War against the Kingdom of Jerusalem, but the war against the Fatimids and its Slave army. After the Fatimids are cleared away, the Ayyubids had a total grip of Power at Egypt, then, Saladin himself lead the war against the Crusaders, lefting his son and his brother Al-Adil to govern and control Egypt. After the 1st Generation, the Ayyubids growed into an economic powerhouse of the Mediterranians. They use their Turkoman slaves, the Mamluks, as their key army, but that, was a fault, and finally, at 1260, Baybars, a Mamluk, led the Mamluk to a rebellion and overthrow the Ayyubids and founded the Mamluk Sultanate which role over Egypt for about 1 century.
Kingdom of Armenia
See my previous letters and find note of "Kingdom of Georgia", that is the note I also wanna right about Armenia.
Next... About Iberia.
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Balain d Ibelin
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Posted: 01-Jul-2007 at 06:40 |
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Now, let's go more...
Kingdom of Jerusalem
The Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem was started at 1099, the Siege of Jerusalem and its fall to the Crusaders, the first king was Godefroy de Bouillon, who was a simple-living man, and, he was also the founder of the Knights Templar. After his reign, he was succeeded by his brother Baldwin I de Bouillon. Then, after it, the Kingdom started to came into prosper and peace with the Moslems, but that wasn't long, when 2nd Crusade started, Imaduddin Zengi started to start a Turkish Rampage, but however, Jerusalem was kept safe. In 1070s, some name started to rose. But, Saladin started to rampage and started his Jihad, Jerusalem was threatened, finally Jerusalem itself fall to Muslim's hand at 1087. But, the Kingdom survived, after fall of Jerusalem Kings titled 'of Cyprus' reigned until finally the Kingdom was destroyed by the Mamluks at 1291 (or maybe 1299(?)) when Acre falls.
Principality of Antioch
The Franco-Norman Principality of Antioch was founded by Prince Bohemond of Taranto at the fall of Antioch (Some thought Bohemond tried to led the Crusaders to found a new Kingdom as he wasn't allowed to be the heir of the Norman duchy and kingdom at Southern Italy and sicily by his father, Robert Guiscard). The principality was prosper and rich as at the ancient times, even, they've special 'connection' with the Byzantines (eg. Manuel I Komnenos married Princess Maria of Antioch). Like K. of Jerusalem, Principality of Antioch was also finally destroyed by the Mamluks at about 1290s when the Mamluks had cleared Mongol's 'reinforcement army' led by Hulagu and the others (Hey, this is just a speculation).
This is enough for this time, I think..
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Balain d Ibelin
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Posted: 28-Jun-2007 at 19:30 |
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I've asked Peter's Question until "Kingdom of Iberia". Now I'll continue it.
Seljuk Sultanate Seljuk Sultanate was founded by Tughril Bey,the first Sultan, which his ancestor, Seljuk of Ghuzz or Oghuzz turkoman tribe. Tughril Bey unite many tribes and attack the Moslem World until finally they seized Baghdad and the Abbasyid Caliph Coronate Tughril as the Sultan of the Seljuks. Not long after it, Tughril's successor, Alp Arslan, turned to face the Byzantines. at the Cilmax, Alp Arslan faced Romanos IV at Manzikert, and Crushed the BYzantines. Then, Alp, made an agreement with Romanos which in it: -Alp Arslan will free Romanos and his entire army peacefully -Romanos IV will gave a certain huge amount of money for Alp and the Seljuqs. After Alp died, the Seljuqs started to Collapse, it collapsed to certain Emirates and Sultanates, such as: -Zangid Empire -Sultanate of Rum -Emirate of Damascus, etc. This situation was used as a Chance by Alexius I and Manuel I.But they didn't succeeded very much. However, the Seljuqs finally captured Jerusalem and after that, since Peter 'The Hermit' arrival to Rome from Jerusalem and the Holy Land, the Crusade was started. Simply, we know Crusades, after 3rd Crusade, Emirate of Damascus declined, but Saladin and his descents raised the Ayyubid Dynasty.Seljuk Sultanate declined after it had collapsed to little Emirates and Sultanate entirely. Kingdom of Georgia
I think Georgia wasn't a Knigdom at that times, maybe a part of Khazaria or Seljuk Sultanate.
Emirate of Badajoz
I don't know this, but there IS a town at Spain named Badajoz.
Seljuk Sultanate of Rum
As I told, Sultanate of Rum was a fracture of the collapsed Seljuk Sultanate. Sultanate of Rum was positioned at the Heart of Modern turkey, As the Name suggest, Rum in arabic means Rome, because the Moslems thought the Byzantines were Romans. Rum Sultanate stands firm but declined slowly, until finally be united to the Ottoman Empire.
Zangid Empire
The Zangid Empire was short-lived, started since Imaduddin Zengi reigned as Atabeg (Turk title for Duke, Baron) of Mosul and ends with the Death of Nur Ed-Din and the rose of Saladin.
I'll answer more later.
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Liudovik_Nemski
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Posted: 21-May-2007 at 01:56 |
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You've messed up the years for the Bulgars,there were Bulgars on the Balkans in the sixth century on when emperor Zenno asked them to help him defeat the goths and some of them settled there as federati.However the first Bulgarian state and later empire was found by Kanasubigi Asparuh in 680-681 and lasted until 1018.
The second Bulgarian empire was restored in 1185 and ended in 1396 when the turks conquered it. Edited by Liudovik_Nemski - 21-May-2007 at 01:59 |
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Tar Szernd
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Principality of Transylvania
1541-1688.
first p.:Jnos Zsigmond 1541-71.
last p.:II. Apafi Mihly 1684-1688.
from 1527 to 1918 every Habsburg kaiser:-) was a hungarian king too, except of II. Joseph (1780-1790).
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rider
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Posted: 15-May-2007 at 14:47 |
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Although you can't blame everything on me, this you might possibly even could...
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gcle2003
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Posted: 13-May-2007 at 10:09 |
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At the time of writing bochgoch in his post, which was a very good one, is shown as having made zero posts. That's rather clever, though I assume rider was at the bottom of it.
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Balain d Ibelin
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Let me start it off....
Golden Horde (1226-1502)
Golden Horde Khanate was started with the beginning of reign of Ogodei Khan, son of Genghis Khan. Golden Horde Khanate's conquest was on the Steppes, Russia, and Mongolia. With the help of Subotai Bahadur, Ogodei conquered more and more Eastern Europe, even they captured Budapest after the Battle of Mohi (1241(?)), defeated the Hungarians and the Templars. But, when Ogodei and Subotai died, their Reign in Eastern Europe started to collapsed. In about 14th Century, peasants rebelled there, the Russian takes its Cities and Poland also take a region.... as well as the Bulgars. Finally, the Empire collapsed to ruins at 1502.
Fatimid Dynasty Caliphate
The Fatimids started to reign at Northern Africa at the Reign of the Imam Mahdi (909-930s), when Abu Abdullah, a Shia Mullah who preached Shia to the Berbers, was executed by Mahdi. Mahdi rose the Empire by recruiting the Zawila (Nubian) slaves and the Sakalaba (Slav) Slaves, imported from Chad and Italy. When Mahdi died, the throne was given to his Heir and so on... They called themsleves Fatimids, as they claimed Fatimah, Wife of Ali (4th Caliph), Daughter of Prophet Mohammmed, as their Ancestor. The Fatimids also conquered Sicily and Sijilmasa. They also had a very special Alliance with the Ismaili Assasins, but, however, it didn't saved them from the Ayyubids (Saladin and his descents) at 1171.
Byzantine Empire
The Byzantines was actually the Eastern Roman Empire, started when Emperor Diocletianus torned the Roman Empire to the Western and the Eastern Empire. The Byzantines was once threatened by the Visigoths, the Alans, and the Huns. But they all (except the Alans) turned their target to the Western Empire. and the Byzantines were saved...
The Eastern Empire is called the Byzantines since they've made many golden Coints called Bezants for trades. They success was at the peak when Justinian I reigned, but, their reign started to declined at Syria and North Africa when the Muslims invade them. They started to came back again with the Cleverness of the Comnenus Emperors. But, however, they again started to fall and finally declined at the Fall of Constantinople (1453).
Kingdom of Abasgia
Hi.. What do you mean?? This is too mysterious!! Do you mean these are the Abbasyids??
Kingdom of Iberia
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Another Kingdoms???
Later on, Okay..
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Sarmata
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sure they did, Wladyslaw IV of Poland :P |
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gcle2003
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Posted: 29-Nov-2006 at 02:18 |
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Russian has the word 'prints' as well as 'knyaz'.
A knyaz (I was taught) is a ruler in his own right, whereas a prints is a relative of the king.
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Exarchus
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I see you consider it was independant. Formally it was acting as it was independant and if it's true that, for instance, King Henry I of England did not recognise the royal (French) lordship over Normandy it was more an exeption than anything else. King Henry II of England clearly recognised the lordship even when he was King of England and so did King Richard I.
The thread is: Medieval Kingdoms not Medieval Principalities and for the reasons I stated in my previous post the Duke of Normandy could not claim Kingship over Normandy. You forgot the Kingdom of Brittany though (established by Nominoe and collapsed in the struggles between Nantes and Rennes). |
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Exarchus
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The Duchy of Normandy was not a kingdom. The political loyalty of the
Church was transferred to the King in 987 along with the traditions of sacral
kingship. From then it was very hard, if not impossible, for the various French
princes to claim kingship. It was the coronation and the sacral ceremony that
went with it that differentiated the King from all his subjects.
Source = Capetian France 987 - 1328 Edition Longham. |
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