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    Posted: 24-Jul-2006 at 18:24
Next is Alexander?
 
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Philip II (382-336 B.C.)
Macedonian King
Philippos in Greek
Born in Pella, capital of the Macedonian kingdom.
Youngest son of King Amyntas III and Eurydice.
Hostage in Thebes. 368 B.C.-365 B.C.
NOTE: Received military and diplomatic education from Epaminondas.
After his father's death, Macedonia was plagued with continuous attacks from neighboring Thracians, Illyrians, and Greeks; the Thracians interfered with internal politics and possessed eastern Macedonia. The Greeks colonies, indirectly lead by Olynthus, hampered the Macedonian economy and the Illyrians recently occupied north-western Macedonia.
His older brothers, king Alexander II and Perdiccas II failed to make headway against their neighbors.
Returned to Macedonia. 364 B.C.
Help strengthen and reorganized the Macedonian army.
When his brother Perdiccas III invaded the Illyrian-held Macedonia; the Illyrians crushed them. 359 B.C.
NOTE: 4,000 Macedonians were killed, including Perdiccas III.
With his other brother, Alexander II, already dead as well, became king of Macedonia at the age of 21.
NOTE: Originally appointed regent to the infant nephew, Amyntas, son of Perdiccas III, but took the kingdom.
The country at the brink of economic collapse, its neighbors pounding on her borders, and foreign-influenced pretenders claiming the throne.
Bought off the Thracian king and persuaded him to kill one of the pretenders who was hiding in the Thracian court.
Defeated the Athen-supported pretender.
NOTE: Philip II ceded Amphipolis to the Athenians to appease them.
In less than a year, Philip II resolved the internal struggle of the country and secured safety of his kingdom.
Campaigned into northwestern Macedonia that was occupied by the Illyrians. 358 B.C.
With the reorganized Macedonian phalanx, Philip II crushed the 10,000-strong Illyrian army.
NOTE: 7,000 Illyrians killed.
Freed the northwestern Macedonia and almost overnight doubled the size of his army.
Invaded the Illyrian homeland.
Defeating the Illyrian tribes stopping short of the Adriatic coast.
NOTE: This victory established his authority as far as Lake Ohrid.
Provided the sarissa for his troops (a spear that is 6 meters long [20 ft]).
NOTE: Held upright; provided hidden movement behind the phalanx. Held horizontal; became a brutal shock weapon from 20 feet away.
Turned war into a profession; paying the soldiers sufficiently to practice year round.
His foreign policy became more aggressive.
Forced the independent Macedonian state, Paeonia, to integrate under his rule.
Broke his agreement with Athens and captured Amphipolis after an intense siege. 357 B.C.
NOTE: The gold mines of Mount Pangaion, which is located near Amphipolis, enabled Philip II to finance new campaigns.
Secured alliances and loyalties through multiple marriages.
NOTE: He married the Illyrian princess Audata and the Macedonian canton of Elimea, Phila.
Married the Epirote princess, Olympias, who was the daughter of the Molssian king.
NOTE: Olympias gives birth to Alexander III [q.v.]. 356 B.C.
Increased the size of the group of Royal Companions, the hetairoi.
Began the practice of allowing the sons of nobles to receive education in the court of the king.
Conquered Thracian-held Crenides; changed the name to Philippi. 355 B.C.
Attacked Abdera and Maronea, which were on the Thracian seaboard.
Captured the Greek city, Potidaea, in Chalcidice.
He quickly captured Pydna on the Macedonian coast.
Captured Methone, another Athenian town. 354 B.C.
NOTE: During the siege of Methone, Philip lost an eye.
NOTE: All non-Macedonian citizens were expelled and the city was destroyed and rebuilt.
Established control of all the northern Greek cities in Thessaly. 352 B.C.
Complete victory against the Phocians at Crocus Field.
NOTE: This battle made Philip tagus of Thessaly.
Claimed Magnesia.
NOTE: Magnesia had the Pagasae harbor, which became important.
Using his wealth, Philip created a Macedonian-friendly party in Euboea, undermining Athens.
Moved his army as far south as Thermopylae until opposed by a joint Athenian/Spartan/Achaean army.
NOTE: Did not attempt to battle the army and returned to Macedonia.
Methodically crushing the Greek cities on the Chalcidice peninsula.
Continued to claim friendship with Olynthus until all neighboring city-states were captured.
Turned on Olynthus by laying siege. 349 B.C.
NOTE: Olynthus begged Athens for assistance but nothing came.
Captured Olynthus and razed the city. 348 B.C.
NOTE: The razing of Olynthus was the same fate of all the 31 Greek cities on the peninsula.
The entire Chalcidice peninsula was annexed, ending Greek control of Macedonian soil.
Advanced in the eastern districts and compelled the Thracian prince Cersobleptes to surrender. 347 B.C.
Forced Macedonian presence at the Greek Delphic council.
Successfully intervened in the war between Thebes and the Phocians. 346 B.C.
Celebrated the Olympic games at Dium.
With Macedonian influence growing, the Greeks steadily increased their resistance.
Subduing numerous Illyrian, Dardanian, and Thracian rebellions. 345 B.C.
Swiftly put down an uprising in Thessaly. 344 B.C.
Marched into Epirus and pacified the country.
Defeated the Thracians and captured Eumolpia. 339 B.C.
NOTE: Changed the name to Philippoupolis.
Started a siege at Perinthus (340 B.C.) and another at Byzantium (339 B.C.).
Both sieges failed due to strong Greek and Persian support.
Lifted the sieges and led army across Thrace.
Campaigned against the Scythians.
Crushed a large Scythian army near the Danube.
NOTE: The Scythian king was killed and 20,000 captured with the intent to sell into slavery.
On the return, the Thracian Triballians attacked the convoy.
NOTE: What gain Philip took from the Scythians was lost and Philip was permanently lame from this ambush.
While Philip nursed his wounds, the Greeks assembled a large army.
Failing to get Theban as an ally, Philip was content to wait for the arrival of his allies before marching into Boeotia.
Philip managed to recover and initiated the offensive against the Greeks before they invaded Macedonia.
Surprised the Greeks by taking the gates at Thermopylae.
Thebes and Athens assembled an army; Sparta refused to join them.
Philip agitated the Greeks by continuously launching raids during the winter.

CHAERONEA August 338
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Philip II (34,000) vs.Chares of Athens, Theagenes of Thebes (30,000)
Both sides were eager for battle, but Philip II was much more experience than Chares [Athens], Lysicles [Athens] or Theagenes [Theban] combined. Deployed at dawn, the Macedonians had Philip II commanding the right wing and 18-year-old Alexander, accompanied by the best Macedonian commanders, the left (the Companion Cavalry was positioned at the rear of the army). The Greek army deployed their army based on nationality (Athenian soldiers holding the left wing, Theban soldier; the right with the extreme right protected by the Sacred Band). When the battle started, it was hotly contested. For reasons not known to the Greeks, but part of Philip's army began to withdraw from the fighting. This inspired the Athenians that they were about to be victorious. The Athenian side of the Greek army moved out of formation and bit the trap. In the meantime, Alexander broke the Theban lines. When this occurred, Philip stopped the feint retreat and vigorously attacked the Athenians. The Athenians were routed. Theban warriors were soon crushed thereafter.
6,000 Athenians killed
2,000 Athenians captured
Of the 300-strong Sacred Band, 254 were killed (the rest were captured or wounded)
NOTE: He erected a memorial of a marble lion to the Sacred Band of Thebes for their bravery that still stands today.
NOTE: The ancient Roman and Greek historians, consider the battle of Chaeronea, on August 2nd, 338 BC as an end to Greek liberty and history. Greece will not regain its freedom from foreign occupation until early 19th century AD.

Secured his Greek conquests; strategically positioned garrisons throughout the region.
Established the League of Corinth and, under Macedonian troops, secured 'peace'. 337 B.C.
Allowed the Greek cities freedom and autonomy to all the political parties.
League members agreed not to war against each other.
NOTE: Macedonia was not a member of the League of Corinth.
Appointed himself "Commander of the Greeks".
NOTE: He already appointed himself "Commander of the Illyrians and Thracians" beforehand.
Despite their 'autonomy', the Greeks were still obligated to support the Macedonian king.
He declared he would 'liberate' the Greek cities in Asia Minor.
NOTE: Despite this declaration, tens of thousands of Greeks left their homeland and sailed off to Asia Minor and enrolled in the Persian army.
Declared war against Persia in retaliation of the Persian invasions that took place generations ago.
Despite being married six times, he married Cleopatra, a high noble Macedonian girl.
This marriage led to the breakup with Olympias.
Olympias and Alexander fled to Epirus.
NOTE: Alexander was allowed to return, but he felt uncomfortable.
Cleopatra gave birth to a male child, Caranus.
NOTE: Named after the founder of the Macedonian royal dynasty.
Sent Attalus, Cleopatra's uncle, and Parmenion, with 10,000 troops, into Asia Minor to free the Greek cities along the coast. 336 B.C.
Philip II was assassinated on the second day of the celebration of his daughter Cleopatra to prince Alexander of Epirus, brother of Olympias.
NOTE: The assassin, Pausanias, was a former male lover to Philip II. Speculation still exists that Alexander somehow assisted in this assassination.
Alexander III [the Great] succeeded the Macedonian throne.

Paraphrasing Bosworth on Philip
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"...work with the Macedonian army and the establishment of alliances with the Balkan peoples gave both himself and Alexander the resources required to carry out their conquests..."

Demosthenes delivered several speeches about Greek liberty and the Macedonian menace (351 B.C.), urging aid for Olynthus (349 B.C.) and one speaking of Philip II:
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"not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave"

Strong quote from www.historyofmacedonia.org
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"But both ancient and modern historians recognize that without the military and political efforts of Philip, Alexander would have never been as successful as he was. After all, it was Philip who created the powerful Macedonian army and turned Macedonia into a strong nation in arms."

70% of Amateur War Historians believe Philip II's achievements prove he was the better commander than Epaminondas.

Reginmund@allempires.com comparing Philip II and Epaminondas 15-Mar-06
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"He achieved the first grand conquest of all Greece, actually establishing one monarchic sovereign ruling the entire territory, instead of just pushing the city-states into a league where Macedon was the hegemon, the way other Greek powers did to secure their influence in the past (Athens, Sparta, and Thebes most notably). This way, Philip made a break with continuity and tradition. Also, the army he faced up to was undoubtedly the most powerful in Greece, while at the time Epaminondas fought the Spartan army, its professionalism, which had secured supremacy in the past, was no longer unique."

akritas@allempires.com about Philip 15-Mar-06
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"At Chaeronea, Philipos did not order a pursuit that could have annihilated the Athenians and Thebans. He had large political goals in mind. The harsh treatment of Thebes by Philip after Chaeronea demonstrates that a great power is rarely willing to tolerate a competitor on its periphery if the means to prevent it are at hand."


SOURCES
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/AncientMacedonia/PhilipofMacedon.html
http://www.livius.org/phi-php/philip/philip_ii.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_II_of_Macedon
http://wso.williams.edu/~junterek/philip.htm
http://www.mymacedonia.net/history/philip.htm






 

 

 

 
Phase 1 of Chaeronea: Philip's right flank ruses a retreat and the Athenians push on towards them.  Meanwhile Alexander continues to attack the Theban side of the allied army.

 
Phase 2 of Chaeronea: Philip's right flank turns and attacks the Athenians, eventually causing their retreat.  Meanwhile Alexander flanks both sides of the Theban army and crushes them in detail.




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  Quote BigL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2006 at 22:34
Great informatation Qin ,although i find the maps very hard to understand maybe you could start a New topic on chinese battles please
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  Quote Qin Dynasty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2006 at 13:42
One thing worth to be mentioned is that the casualties of Chin is unbelievablely high, 300,000 men lost in the war. Despite the POWs killed by the Chin, the Zhao only one-sixth of that casaulties of Chin.
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  Quote Qin Dynasty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2006 at 13:34

just for complement,  THE WAR OF CHANG'PING(BC262-BC259)

It was during the time known as Warring States period in China. The Chou dynasty had collapsed for a long time and after hundreds years long merging and conquering among fiefs and states, finally seven great powerful states survived. The war of ChangPing broke out between  two of them, Qin(or Chin) and Zhao. The war turned out to be a stonemile for Chin to conquer the other six states and finally reunified China.

 

The ChangPing compaign, along with another war, were the two most famous wars before Christian era to Chinese. That's why i brought it here. It also might be the largest war B.C in human history.

600,000 Chin soldiers VS 450,000 men of Zhao

 

The general commander of Chin troops is Bai Qi () who, though mighty in fighting,  would be deadly notorious for his slaughtering after this compaign. The general of Zhao is ZhaoKuo ().

 

The war turned out to be a decisive defeat of Zhao, 450,000 troops were totally annihilated, as 400,000 were slaughted after they surrendered to Chin and the other 50,000 killed in the battles.

One of the slaughting sites unearthed in 1995.

The architecture at the top of the hill was the headerquarter of Zhao troops at that time.

 

 

The war lasted for 3 years, both sides are well known for fighting, they are good rivalries as they have already fought for centuries so the landslide is really unexpected. There are numerous tactics used by both sides in the war, blunders also made by both, it is very complicate to cite it  clearly. I wish i could give a detail next time. Anyway, the war is so classical that it has been mentioned and analysed in numerous military books in the following 2000 years.

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Chou Kung (??? - ??? B.C.)
'Duke of Chou'
Originally named Chi Tan.
Father was known as Wen Wang (Cultured King).
Wen Wang revolted against the Shang Dynasty.
Wu Wang the Martial King [q.v.] , Chou Kung's older brother, successfully overthrew the Shang.
Wu Wang established the Chou Dynasty.  1122 B.C.
Became the chief adviser in planning military and political strategy.
Received the fief of Lu from Wu Wang, however, he remained with his brother to help govern the Dynasty.
Many of Wu Wang's policies were adopted from the ideas of Chou Kung.
Wu Wang died.  1116 B.C.
Chou Kung set himself up as regent.
NOTE: Wu Wang's infant son, King Ch'eng, was too young to govern. 
His two brothers, Kuan Shu and Ts'ai Shu were suspicious of this act and sided with the Shang heir.
NOTE: After the Wang rebellion, the son of the Shange king was given a small fief in eastern China.
Chou Kung put down the revolt.
NOTE: No accounts were found pertaining to battles or campaigns.
The Shange heir and Kuan Shu were executed.  Ts'ai Shu was exiled.
Chou Kung served as regent for another 7 years.
Resigned his position when King Ch'eng reached maturity.
Continued to advise the king.
Responsible for supervising the building of the new capital.
Taught the young king administration skills of the governement.

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Epaminondas (circa 418 B.C. - 362 B.C.)
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Theban general and statesman
Epanminondas is a member of Congo's Top 100 Commanders of All Time.
Son of Polymnis
Born from an impovished scion of the old Theban noble family.
Received exceptional education from teacher.
NOTE: Especially Lysis of Tarentum, known for his skills in philosophical studies.  As well as philosophical conversations with Theban Simias and the Tarentine Spintharos, both pupils of Socrates.
Fought a skirmish at Mantinea.  385 B.C.
NOTE: This fight is not recorded.
Passing through Boeotia, the Spartan commander, Phoebidas, took advantage of the problems within Thebes and seized the Cadmea (the Theban acropolis).  382 B.C.
NOTE: The event would turn Thebes against Sparta and paved the way fo Theban victories and the destruction of Spartan power.
This event forced the anti-Spartan party to flee.
Viewed harmless, Epaminondas was allowed to remain despite his association with the party.
A revolt led by Pelopidas which included such events as infiltrating the city and assassinations took part in a single night.  379 B.C.
Epaminondas led a group of young men; broke into armories and took weapons.
Receiving assistance from a group of Athenian hoplites, Epaminondas surrounded the Spartan-held Cadmea.
The Spartan garrison abandoned Cadmea (the commanders would later be executed by the Spartans for this cowardly act).
The pro-Spartan party was also allowed to surrender; however they would later be killed by the insurgents.
Agesilaus II, the Spartan king, sent an army to recapture Thebes.  However, the Spartans could never get the Theban army on the battlefield.  Lacking siege techniques they

abandoned the thought of sieging the city and ravaged the countryside before returning to Sparta.
A peace conference faultered when Athens and Sparta resumed fighting.  375 B.C.
Sparta would invaded three times in the next seven years.
NOTE: The skirmishes in these invasions brought confidence among the Theban warriors.
Elected a Boeotarch.  circa 373 B.C.
Captured the Sikyonian town of Phoebia.
NOTE: Did not kill Boeotian fugitives as directed under the Theban law, but assigned them new nationality of their choosing and set them free.
With Pelopidas, designed a Boeotian foreign policy.
Represented the Boeotians and Thebes in the Peace Conference of 371.  371 B.C.
NOTE: Athens and Sparta, both war-weary, initiated this conference and numerous city-states were invited to join.  Negotiations broke down between Sparta and Thebes when Agesilaus refused to allow Thebes to represent all the cities of Boeotia; stating they should be independent.  Epaminondas countered that the cities of Laconia should be free from Spartan rule if that is to be the case.  All the cities signed a peace document with Sparta; Sparta and Thebes prepared for war.
The other Spartan king, Cleombrotus, headed an army in Phocis; marched to Boeotia. 
Avoiding the mountain passes, Cleombrotus entered Boeotian territory from an unexpected direction.
NOTE: The Boeotian army had set a trap for Cleombrotus in the mountain passes.
Cleombrotus seized a fort and captured several triremes.
Cleombrotus, with his 10,000 hoplites, camped at Leuctra, in the territoroy of Thespiae.
Epaminondas confronted the Spartan army with 6,000 Boeotians, with a cavalry that was far superior to any Peloponnesian cavalry.

LEUCTRA  371 B.C.
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Epaminondas/Pelopidas (9,000) vs. Cleombrotos I (12,000)
King Cleombrotos stopped at Leuctra, near Thebes.  Epaminondas convinced his civilian-soldiers that they must fight the Spartans.  Cleombrotos had his peltasts cover his flanks of his phalanx.  Epaminondas positioned the Theban phalanx at a slight slant, with the left wing closest to the enemy.  He also concentrated his men on the left side of the Theban phalanx, revealing a weak center and right wing.  Epaminondas decided to 'shield press' against the enemy instead of spear fighting.  In essence, the Theban left wing would push and overwhelm the Spartan right wing.  Epaminondas used what was left of his peltasts to cover the right wing while the cavalry and 'Sacred Band' protected the left wing.  Cleombrotos orders his cavalry to attack.  The clash between the Spartan cavalry and Theban cavalry is undecisive until Pelopidas, leading the 'Sacred Band', smashes the Spartan cavalry.  The Theban cavalry attack the Spartan peltasts as the main Theban left wing smashes into the right side of the Spartan phalanx.  Cleombrotos is killed and the Spartan peltasts were unable to defend the phalanx's right flank.  The 'Sacred Band' and cavalry hit the right flank of the Spartans as the whole wing is pushed back.  The Spartan allies, primarily on the left wing of the phalanx, loss morale and retreat.  Theban forces were persuaded not to pursue the fleeing army.
NOTE: First known battle to have a deep column of attack and a refused flank.
2,000 Spartan casualties (including Cleombrotos)
400 of the 700 Spartiates were killed; a tremendous blow to Sparta's ability to fight.
  300 Theban casualties

Busied himself with the consolidation of the Boeotian confederacy.
Compelled Orchomenus to join the league.
Agesilaus II, sent a Spartan force to put an end to the unruly Mantinea.  370 B.C.
Upon hearing this, Epaminondas invaded the Peloponnese.
The Boeotian army forced their way pas the fortifications on the isthmus of Corinth.
Marched south towards Sparta.
Drove off the Spartan army in Arcadia that was threatening Mantinea.
Supervised the building of Megalopolis, a new city and the formation of the Arcadian League
NOTE: Modeled on the Boeotian confederacy.
Continued moving south, crosing the Evrotas River.
Briefly returned to Arcadia.
Marched south again to liberate Messenia, the Spartan territory which had been theirs for 200 years.
Rebuilt the ancient city of Messene on Mount Ithome.
NOTE: At the time, the fortifications wer among the strongest in Greece.
Called upon all Messenian exiles to return and rebuild their homeland.
These acts devastated Sparta; physically, economically, mentally, and the prestige of Sparta was forever lost.
Returned home, victorious.
Instead of a hero's welcome, a trial awaited Epaminondas.
NOTE: He retained his command longer than constitutionally possible, which was the truth.
Epaminondas requested, in his defense, that upon his execution, the inscription be placed upon his tomb:

"Epaminondas was punished by the Thebans with death, because he obliged them to overthrow the Lacedaemonians at Leuctra, whom, before he was general, none of the Boeotians durst look upon in the field, and because he not only, by one battle, rescued Thebes from destruction, but also secured liberty for all Greece, and brought the power of both people to such a condition, that the Thebans attacked Sparta, and the Lacedaemonians were content if they could save their lives; nor did he cease to prosecute the war, till, after settling Messene, he shut up Sparta with a close siege."

Charges were dropped and Epaminondas was reelected as Boeotarch for the next year.
Invaded the Peloponnese, won Sicyon over to the alliance with Thebes, not much else was achieved.
Again put on trial on his return, again acquitted.
Served as a common soldier in the army that was sent into Thessaly to rescue Pelopidas.
The Theban commanders of this expedition were outmaneuvered and forced to retreat.
Epaminondas was reinstated as commander of the Theban army.
Led the the second attempt to rescue Pelopidas, outmaneuvered the Thessalians and secured the release of Pelopidas without a fight.
After a failed peace conference, Epaminondas returned for a third time seeking to secure an allegiance of the states of Achaea.  366 B.C.
Despite the military prowlness of Thebes, her former allies kept defected to the old Spartan alliances.
Thessalian Pherae, a reliable ally, turned against its newly dominant ally.
The Arcadians, whose league Epaminondas established, turned against Thebes.
NOTE: Messenia remained loyal.
Epaminondas challenges to Athens dominance at sea by building a fleet of 100 triremes.  364 B.C.
Cruised to the Propontis and detached several states from the Athenian confederacy.
Pelopidas was killed while campaigning against Alexander of Pherae.
Epaminondas defeats Alexander of Pherae.  363 B.C.
When the Arcadians seized the Pan-Greek sanctuary of Zeus at Olympia in Elis, one of the Arcadian city-states, Mantinea, joined the side of the Spartans.
To stop this, Epaminondas led another expedition into the Peloponnese.  362 B.C.
Marched against Mantinea.
Upon hearing that a large Spartan force had marched to Mantinea that Sparta was undefended, he marched to Sparta.
Epaminondas arrived at Sparta to see it well defended.
He countermarched back to his base at Tegea, hoping that the Spartans left Mantinea undefeated.
Dispatched his cavalry to Mantinea.
An indecisive clash between the Athenian cavalry and Thebes cavalry at Mantinea ended any hope of a quick capture of Mantinea.

MANTINEA  362 B.C.
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Epaminondas (32,000) vs. Agesilaus II (26,000)
The largest hoplite battle in Greek history.  Epaminondas' army included Thebes, Arcadia and the cities of the Boeotia League.  But nearly every Greek state participated in one form or another.  Agesilaus II's army included Sparta, Elis, and the cities of the Mantinea league.  Epaminondas used the same successful tactic at Leuctra.  Organized the Boeotian troops on the left wing of his army, supported by his cavalry.  Epaminondas led this formation.  When battle ensued, the stronger Boeotian wing drove back the Athenian and Mantinean cavalry and began to attack the flanks of the enemy phalanx.  The hoplite battle then ensued with the Thebans warriors pushing and finally breaking the Spartans.  The entire Spartan-alliance phalanx was routed.  However, Epaminondas was fatally wounded.  Upon hearing that the other Theban leaders, Iolaidas and Daiphantus, were killed.  he instructed the Thebans to make peace.

Xenophon of the death of Epaminondas at Mantinea
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"When these things had taken place, the opposite of what all men believed would happen was brought to pass. For since well-nigh all the people of Greece had come together and formed themselves in opposing lines, there was no one who did not suppose that if a battle were fought, those who proved victorious would be the rulers and those who were defeated would be their subjects; but the deity so ordered it that both parties set up a trophy as though victorious and neither tried to hinder those who set them up, that both gave back the dead under a truce as though victorious, and both received back their dead under a truce as though defeated, and that while each party claimed to be victorious, neither was found to be any better off, as regards either additional territory, or city, or sway, than before the battle took place; but there was even more confusion and disorder in Greece after the battle than before."

Cicero eulogized Epaminondas as
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"the first man, in my judgement, of Greece,"

Pausanias records an honorary peom from Epaminondas' tomb
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"By my counsels was parta Shone of her glory
And holy Messene received at last her children
By the arms of Thebes was Megalopolis encircled wit hwalls,
And all Greece won independence and freedom.
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- Wolcott3W7@aol.com  04/08/01
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As an interesting side note, during this period, Philip II of Macedonia was a hostage in Thebes, and he learned Theban tactics and organization directly from Epaminondas, much like young Gustavus Adolphus learned Dutch tactics and organization from Maurice of Nassau during his stay there. In both cases, the student eventually became greater than the master. Id probably put Epaminondas somewhere in the lower fifty.  He only fought two major battles, but they were against the Spartans, and one can't ask for a higher quality opponent in any age.

- Statement by Epaminondas to an envoy of King Artaxerxes of Peria, who tried to bride him.
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There is no need for money in this matter: for if the king desires what is for the good of the Thebans, I am ready to do it for nothing; if otherwise, he has not silver and gold enough to move me, for I would not exchange the riches of the whole world for my love for my country.  You, who have tried me thus without knowing my character, and who have thought me like yourself I do not blameand I forgive you; but quit the city at once, lest you corrupt others, though unable to corrupt me.

- Epaminondas, on him not having any children.
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I cannot want for posterity.  For I leave behind me a daughter,---the victory of Leuctra, that must of necessity not merely survive me, but be immortal!

Under his leadership, the Theban army never plundered.
Never married; had several young male lovers.
A mere 27 years after his death, Thebes was wiped off the face of the Earth by Alexander the Great.

A 2006 poll asked who was the better general; Epaminondas or Philip II.  Epaminondas received 11.2% of the votes.












SOURCES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epaminondas
http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/thebans.html
http://www.e-classics.com/PELOPIDAS.htm
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Pelopidas (? ? ? -  364 BC)
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Theban general
Son of Hippoclus
Born into a prominent  family of Thebes.
At the battle of Mantinea, Pelopidas, due to several wounds, fainted.  Epaminondas stayed with Pelopidas and fought off theives as well as the enemy.
NOTE: In essence, Epaminondas saved Pelopidas' life until help arrived.  384 B.C.
Fled after the oligarchical party allowed the Spartan force to enter Thebes.
Coordinated the assassination of the leaders of the oligarchical party.  379 B.C.
NOTE: This assassination was very elaborate; some events included penetrating the guardposts, infiltrating a party as female dancers.  And at times, just blunt; knocking on a door until someone answers; once opened, rushed in and killed all who opposed them.
With a small group of resistance fighters, threw out the 1,500-strong Spartan garrison.
NOTE: After an initial siege, led by Pelopidas, the garrison agreed to leave.
NOTE: The Spartan commanders of the garrison were executed by the Spartan army that was on its way to relieve the castle.
Elected boeotarch
A Spartan army invades Boeotia.
NOTE: With Athens refusing to join Thebes against Sparta, Pelopidas devises a plan.  He sends a merchant to the Spartan army led by Sphodrias.  This merchant convinces Sphodrias that, for the greater glory of Sparta, Athens port could easily be taken at this time as the Athenians would least expect the attack since Sparta is at war with Thebes.  Sphodrias moves towards Athens.  Athens, suddenly alerted by Thebes informants, successfully defend the port.  In 378 B.C., Athens joins Thebes against Sparta.
Pelopidas, with only the 300-strong Sacred Band, marches out to confronts a larger Spartan force.

Tegyra  375 B.C.
Pelopidas (300) vs. Spartans (900)
No details are recorded.  Only that after a scout had arrived in a panic state and said "We have fallen into our enemy's hands."  Pelopidas quickly responded by says, "And why not they into ours?"  The Sacred Band decisively defeated the Spartans.  It is the first recorded event that a Spartan army was defeated by a smaller one.
No casualty numbers available.

Sparta concludes a peace treaty with all of the city-states except for Thebes.  371 B.C.
Sparta sends an army 10,000 strong under Cleobrotos I.
Pelopidas, under Epaminondas, led the Sacred Band at the battle of Leuctra.

LEUCTRA  371 B.C.
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Epaminondas/Pelopidas (9,000) vs. Cleombrotos I (12,000)
King Cleombrotos stopped at Leuctra, near Thebes.  Epaminondas convinced his civilian-soldiers that they must fight the Spartans.  Cleombrotos had his peltasts cover his flanks of his phalanx.  Epaminondas positioned the Theban phalanx at a slight slant, with the left wing closest to the enemy.  He also concentrated his men on the left side of the Theban phalanx, revealing a weak center and right wing.  Epaminondas decided to 'shield press' against the enemy instead of spear fighting.  In essence, the Theban left wing would push and overwhelm the Spartan right wing.  Epaminondas used what was left of his peltasts to cover the right wing while the cavalry and 'Sacred Band' protected the left wing.  Cleombrotos orders his cavalry to attack.  The clash between the Spartan cavalry and Theban cavalry is undecisive until Pelopidas, leading the 'Sacred Band', smashes the Spartan cavalry.  The Theban cavalry attack the Spartan peltasts as the main Theban left wing smashes into the right side of the Spartan phalanx.  Cleombrotos is killed and the Spartan peltasts were unable to defend the phalanx's right flank.  The 'Sacred Band' and cavalry hit the right flank of the Spartans as the whole wing is pushed back.  The Spartan allies, primarily on the left wing of the phalanx, loss morale and retreat.  Theban forces were persuaded not to pursue the fleeing army.
2,000 Spartan casualties (including Cleombrotos)
  300 Theban casualties

Under Epaminondas and Pelopidas, the Theban army marched into the Peloponnese, freeing the Peloponnesian cities from Sparta.
Freeing the Helots from Sparta.
Their army swelled to 70,000 as former Spartan allies joined the Theban army.
Reasons never known or explained, Theban army spares Sparta and returns home.
Upon their return, Epaminondas and Pelopidas were brought up on charges of continuing command despite the expiration of their term as commanding generals(they were acquitted).
NOTE: Epaminondas took this event in stride, however, it did not settle well with Pelopidas.
Sent to assist the Thessalians against the tyrant Alexander of Pherae  369 B.C.
Entered Thessaly and occupied larissa, the principal city.
Alexander quickly submitted, but proved too difficult to persuade to become a more gentlier leader.
After the campaign against Alexander of pherae, led the arbitration between Alexander II of Macedon and Ptolemy of Alorus.
Part of the negotiation, Pelopidas took hostages from both sides to cement an agreement.
NOTE: One of the Philip II(q.v.), Alexander II's brother, and later king himself; father of Alexander the Great(q.v.).
The talks broke down when Ptolemy of Alorus murdered Alexander II.  368 B.C.
Pelopidas raised a mercenary force in Macedonia to deal with this trouble.
On the battlefield, Ptolemy bribed Pelopidas' army and they abandoned him.
Despite having an army, a favorable peace with Ptolemy was made.
NOTE: Ptolemy volunteered to give up the kingship of Macedonia and give it to Philip II.
Marched to Pharsalus to deal with the deserting mercenaries.
NOTE: Many of the mercenaries had family and property there.
Upon his arrival at Pharsalus, an army led by Alexander of Pherae approached.
Under the presumption of prestige, Pelopidas approached Alexander's camp to hear out Alexander.
Alexander immediately ordered his arrest and captured Pharsalus.  368 B.C.
NOTE: Held prisoner for a year until rescued by a Theban force under Epaminondas.  Epaminondas did not want to escalate the situation and instead of fighting Alexander, asked for Pelopidas in return for other captives.  The negotiations were successful.
Went to Persia as a Theban ambassador to counteract the attempts of either the Spartan or Athenian ambassadors.
Alexander of Pherae pressuring Thessaly, Pelopidas led a force to stop Alexander of Pherae.
Due to leave for Thessaly, the Theban force of 7,000 panicked when an eclipse of the sun took place.  June 13, 364
Pelopidas left with only 300 volunteer cavalrymen.

CYNOSCEPHALAE  364 B.C.
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Pelopidas (2000) vs. Alexander (4000)
Pelopidas, reinforced by a small contigent force from Thessaly, attacked and successfully disloged Alexander of Pherae's army from their position.  Pelopidas wishing to do personal combat with Alexander who was trying to rally his forces, he rushed him.  Pelopidas became isolated from his main force and killed by the tyrant's guards.  The Theban force protected his body, and with renewed anger, drove the enemy from the field.  Technically, the battle was a Theban victory, however the loss of Pelopidas was a great loss.
3,000 Pheraeans casaulties
unknown Theban casualties; presumably light.
Pelopidas killed.

NOTE: The next year, Epaminondas avenged this defeat with a victory over Alexander, who was resigned to limited rule to Pherae and forced to join the Boeotian league.  Alexander was later killed by his wife's brothers.
Pelopidas had a wife, and two children.

CONGO NOTE: Epaminondas and Pelopidas had a unique friendship in times when power often leads to personal ambition, greed or jealously.  They applauded each other's successes and had a common respect of virtue to the prosperity of their city-state, Theban.  Epaminondas was more of a thinker while Pelopidas excelled in athletics.  Still, despite their differences, when Pelopidas could never persuade Epaminondas to accept his charity, Pelopidas joined Epaminondas in his simple way of life, despite the fortune, that he had inherited, that he could have spent on himself.


King Artaxerxes of Pelopidas
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"This is the man, who beat those Spartans who only a short time before were about to fight with the Great King himself in the heart of his empire."   

Plutarch of Pelopidas's final act in battle
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"A general who risks his own life endangers not only himself but also his soldiers, whose life depends on his safety.  When the reward justifies the risk, he should not hesitate, but if the most he might accomplish is what an ordinary soldier could do just as well, a general should not put his person in jeopardy."







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http://www.e-classics.com/PELOPIDAS.htm
http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/thebans.html
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Agesilaus (444 - 359 B.C.)
Spartan king
Born in the Eurypontid family, one of the two royal dynasties of Sparta.
Second son of king Archidamus II.
Born with one leg shorter than the other.
Exempted from Spartan training program that Spartan boys traditionally go through.
Natural leader
Obeyed orders enthusiastically, without compulsion.
Older brother, Agis, was king from 427 to 400 B.C.
Agis, convinced by Leotychidas, the bastard son of Alcibiades, suggested he replace him.
Lysander, claiming the boy was illegitimate, offered Agesilaus as an alternative.
NOTE: Lysander also felt he could manipulate Agesilaus.
Agesilaus, unlike his Spartan king predecessors, easily made friends with the ephors and the Senate.
Sent Thibron, a Spartan general, and an army of 11,300 strong to protect the Greek towns against the Persian satrap Tissaphernes.
An alliance with Spartan and Egypt, under Amrtaeus, the new pharaoh, was established.
NOTE: This campaign, which was not well coordinated, was led by Dercyllidas.
An armistice was concluded between Sparta and Persia when the armies met near Magnesia.  397 B.C.
NOTE: The agreement was that the Spartan army would leave and the Persians would accept Spartan rule over the Ionian city-states.  However, the Spartans soon discovered that the Persians were building a fleet.  This could only mean that the Persians meant to challenge their control over the Aegean Sea.
Some of the Ionian cities were in open revolt due to the Persians initiatives.
Upon Lysander's advice, Agesilaus prepares to invade Persia with 8,000 men.
His offering to the gods at Theban-controlled Aulis was interrupted and spoiled by Theban priests.  396 B.C.
NOTE: Agesilaus' strong hatred for Theban is said to be from this incident
Landed at Ephesus.
With Lysander being quite popular here, Agesilaus became jealous of Lysander's popularity and began to undermine him.
NOTE: He opposed any advise Lysander had to offer and supported anything Lysander opposed.
Finally, Agesilaus appointed Lysander to Hellespont.
Concluded a truce with the satrap Tissaphernes; this enabled him to focus on the other satrap, Pharnabazus.
NOTE: The satrap Tisaphernes signed the truce because he was waiting for reinforcements.  Initially he appeased Agesilaus by claiming all of the Greek cities in Ionia will be free of Persian control, however, he stiffened resistance when he felt confident with the Persian army raised.
Glad to have peace spurned by Tisaphernes, Agesilaus deceived him by strucking north into Phrygia instead of Caria, as Tisaphernes had anticipated.
Bad omens during sacrifices convinced Agesilaus to head back to Ephesus and increase his cavalry.
NOTE: Auctioned off the slaves he had captured in Phrygia.
Publicly stated he will attack east into Lydia.  395 B.C.
Tisaphernes aware of this being a possible trick, guarded Caria.
Agesilaus invaded Lydia and headed for the capital city of Sardis.
Tisaphernes rushed his cavalry and attacked the Spartan looters.
Agesilaus directed his whole army against the Persian cavalry, who retreated.
The Spartans pursued and captured the Persian camp.
Tisaphernes is executed for his incompetence during the campaign.  His head is offered to Agesilaus by the new satrap, Tithraustes, as a peace offering.
NOTE: The Spartans were also offered a large sum of money.
Agesilaus slyly accepts the monetary gifts saying this will pay for his expenses to leave Lydia and return to Phrygia.
NOTE: It was dishonorable to Spartans to accept bribes from their enemy.
The Spartans gave Agesilaus the unprecedented status of commander both the army and the navy.
NOTE: Appointed his brother-in-law commander of the navy; a mistake of giving a man a position over more experienced men.
Became popular with the Greeks in Ionia for his simple standards of living.
More cities in Asia Minor revolted against the Persians.
Raided the region controlled by the satrap Pharnabazus.
NOTE: Under the agreement with Tithraustes, the Spartans would attack Pharnabazus instead of him.
Advised by Sparta to focus on the lower west of Asia Minor to release Persian control of that region.
NOTE: Which was a sound strategy.
Unable to follow this strategy as Pharnabazus was not willing to come to terms.
Initiated plans to strike deeper into Persia along the Royal road.
Progress was slow as he was unable to capture towns (Spartans were not noted for their conduct in siege warfare).
Word was received that Thebes and Athens (whom both might have been persuaded by Persia) was at open war with Sparta.  
Conon, the new Persian commander, captured Rhodes; enabling the Persians to work in the Aegean Sea.
He leaves Asia Minor.  394 B.C.
The Corinthian War had started: the Boeotians, Corinthians, Athenians, and the Persian navy fought against the Spartans.
NOTE: This marked the beginning of professionalism in the conduct of war as both sides used mercenaries.
Marched through Thrace; victorious in numerous battles (including a battle against the Boeotians near Coronea).
NOTE: Another noteable battle took place after the Spartan fleet had been destroyed.  Despite this being a bad omen, Agesilaus celebrated pretending that was a victory.  In the battle, the Spartans were victorious against the Thebans.
Lysander had infected the city of Sparta with conspiracies.  His death relieved many problems.  Agesilaus gave the other conspirators positions away from Sparta.
Marched against the Acarnanians, whom had taken farm lands from the Achaeans, and they quickly settled on liberal terms.  389 B.C.
With the Athenians rebuilding their walls and the Persians constantly raiding the Spartan coast, Agesilaus offered peace terms to the Persians; abandoning the Greek cities of Ionians.

The Spartan general, Phoebidas, captured a Thebes castle.  382 B.C.
This act was considered disgraceful to the Spartans, but Agesilaus defended Phoebidas, who would have been executed.  The castle remained in Spartan hands.
Thebes revolted against the Spartan garrison.  379 B.C.
Agesilaus invaded, but the Theban army did not offer battle.  378 B.C.
He also defended the Spartan general, Sphodrias, who broke the peace in the failed attempt to take the Athenian port.
NOTE: Sphodrias, a son of Agesilaus' friend, was spared as well.  The Spartan population felt contempt for Agesilaus' judgement and justice.
Theban revolted again.  Agesilaus again invaded, but, again, was unable to initiate siege warfare upon the enemy.  377 B.C.
Sparta's allies complained about the personal battle Agesilaus was leading their troops against Thebes.
NOTE: All Greek cities accepted a peace treaty with Sparta (Athens felt content after receiving parts of Boeotia.  374 B.C.
Epaminondas [q.v.] and other Thebes delegates failed to hammer out a peace treaty with Agesilaus.  371 B.C.
Twenty days later, Spartans marched against Thebans.

LEUCTRA  371 B.C.
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Epaminondas/Pelopidas (9,000) vs. Cleombrotos I (12,000)
King Cleombrotos stopped at Leuctra, near Thebes.  Epaminondas convinced his civilian-soldiers that they must fight the Spartans.  Cleombrotos had his peltasts cover his flanks of his phalanx.  Epaminondas positioned the Theban phalanx at a slight slant, with the left wing closest to the enemy.  He also concentrated his men on the left side of the Theban phalanx, revealing a weak center and right wing.  Epaminondas decided to 'shield press' against the enemy instead of spear fighting.  In essence, the Theban left wing would push and overwhelm the Spartan right wing.  Epaminondas used what was left of his peltasts to cover the right wing while the cavalry and 'Sacred Band' protected the left wing.  Cleombrotos orders his cavalry to attack.  The clash between the Spartan cavalry and Theban cavalry is undecisive until Pelopidas, leading the 'Sacred Band', smashes the Spartan cavalry.  The Theban cavalry attack the Spartan peltasts as the main Theban left wing smashes into the right side of the Spartan phalanx.  Cleombrotos is killed and the Spartan peltasts were unable to defend the phalanx's right flank.  The 'Sacred Band' and cavalry hit the right flank of the Spartans as the whole wing is pushed back.  The Spartan allies, primarily on the left wing of the phalanx, loss morale and retreat.  It is the first time a Spartan army is defeated by a smaller force.  Theban forces were persuaded not to pursue the fleeing army.
2,000 Spartan casualties (including Cleombrotos)
  300 Theban casualties

The Spartan coalition soon disintegrates.
Theban army 70,000 strong, led by Epaminondas, invaded the territory of Sparta.  370 B.C.
Agesilaus' began operations of fortifying the city.
A brief coup inside Sparta was quickly put down.
NOTE: The conspirators were executed without a due process.
The Theban army left and the siege at Sparta ended.
NOTE: No one knows why the Thebans left.  Speculation goes from winter, to a high desertion rate, to Agesilaus bribing them off.
Gave up his military duties to his son, Archidamus.
Joined forces with the Persian satrap Ariobarzanes, who was revolting against the great king of Persia.  367 B.C.
Had to return when Thebans invaded the peloponnese, preventing the capture of Sparta.  362 B.C.
After the battle of Mantinea, Sparta made peace with Thebans and Athens.
League of Greek City-States was formed, but Sparta, not accepting the loss of Messenia, could not join.

Hired to lead a mercenary unit in the Egyptian army, under the rebel Egyptian pharaoh named Tachos.  360 B.C.

Traveled to Egypt.  360 B.C.
Tachos was very disrespectful to Agesilaus.
When the army reached Phoenicia, Tachos' nephew, Nectanabis II, revolted and took most of the army, Agesilaus joined Nectanabis.
NOTE: Tachos fled.
Refused to be bribe by the opposing king, however Nectanabis did not trust Agesilaus.
Not taking Agesilaus' advise to attack the king's inexperienced army, Nectanabis put his army in the city and endured the siege.
The Siege in Egypt - The enemy built a deep ditch and a high wall all around the city.  Agesilaus informed the king to attack as soon as it was almost completed (the enemies' own walls would protect their flanks).  Agesilaus' mercenaries broke through and rolled up the enemy flanks around the wall.
Received a large reward for his contribution to Nectanabis' victory.
Returned home, but died during the trip.
Agesilaus was 84-years old when he died.
Spartan king for 41 years.
Received an honorable burial in Sparta.





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Conon ( ? ? ? - ? ? ? )
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Athenian General

Took command of the Athenian navy after Alcibiades was recalled.  406 B.C.
Defeated by the Spartan fleet at Mytilene.  August 406 B.C.
NOTE: No information about this battle.
Briefly blockaded at Mytilene until rescued following the Athenian victory at Arginusae. 
Lysander beat the Athenian navy to Hellespont and occupied Lampsacus.  404 B.C.
Situated his base at Aegospotami while being supplied from Sestus.
Advised by Alcibiades to move his fleet to Sestus, but ignored it.
NOTE: Alcibiades' plan wouldn't necessarily have worked either.  If the fleet moved to Sestus, Lysander could escape and cut the Athenian food supply.

Aegospotami  404 B.C.
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Lysander (? ? ?) vs. Conon (180 triremes)

On the fifth day, Lysander scouts reported that the Athenian crews disembarked to retrieve their meals and supplies.  NOTE: This could have been a situation where betrayal was involved.  Lysander ordered an immediate attack.  The Athenian fleet was completely caught off guard and captured with little resistance.  Nine Athenian ships, including Conon's vessel, successfully escaped.  This battle proved to be the Peloponnesian-winning battle as it dislodged the Athenians from controlling the sea and they could no longer supply themselves by sea.
All Athenians were executed.
Peloponnesian losses; light.

Fearing Athenian judgement, sailed to Cyprus.
Spartan and Persian alliance soon spoiled.
Accepts the position of naval command offered by Perisan emperor Artaxerxes.  397 B.C.
Sends a small portion of the Poenician fleet to Caria.
Briefly blockaded, but rescued by Pharnabazus and Tissaphernes.
Proceeded to Rhodes.
Replaced the Rhodes pro-Spartan oligarchy with a democracy; gathered supplies.
Spartans sent a fleet under Pisander against the Phoenician fleet.

Cnidus  394 B.C.
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Conon/Pharnabazus (90 triremes) vs. Peisander (85 triremes)

Apparently the Spartan navy encountered elements of the Persian fleet and engaged them with success.  The Persian fleet arrived in full force and was able to put the Spartan fleet to flight.  This battle effectively ended the Spartan's dominance on the Aegean sea. 
Heavy Spartan casaulties
35 Spartan triremes were destroyed
50 Spartan triremes were captured
Peisander was killed.

Allowed to retain part of the fleet, returned to Athens.
Money received he gave to Athens to reconstruction of the Piraeus long walls.
Sent as a Athenian delegate to oppose the proposition of Spartan abandoning their cities in Asia Minor.
Satrap Tiribazus imprisoned Conon and the other delegates, believing this was an attempt to reclaim their empire.
Tiribazus was later replaced by Struthus.
Satrap Struthus allowed Conon to escape.
Died soon afterwards in Cyprus.
Timotheus, his son, later became a prominent general.


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Benedict: "I should be much obliged if you would point out some books or other articles about peloponessian war and later, especially books of Epaminodas."
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Without a doubt, Epaminodas is a source of study.  His destruction of the Spartan army at Leuctra paved the way for Theban dominance.  Unfortunately, his death paved the way for the Macedonians.  Neither Sparta or Thebans was in any position to compete against the Macedonians.

Unfortunately, books I do have that talk about Epaminodas are not specialized on him; just in that general time period.


Benedict: "BTW, that's one impresive knowledge of history."
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Benedict, don't confuse simple research with knowledge.  But who am I; swiping at compliments!  I'll take'em!  THANKS!!

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Hello. I am most interested in what you speak of; Epaminodas most of all, since he was all a man-of-war should be. I should be much obliged if you would point out some books or other articles about peloponessian war and later, especially books of Epaminodas.

BTW, that's one impresive knowledge of history.

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Wu Wang...as a military commander was not that famous compared to other Chinese generals/kings during the Spring and Atumn (770-476 BC), and

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Could you be more precise?  Possibly give names during the 770-475 B.C. timeperiod?

The famous Sun Wu (Sun Tzu) was the commander of Wu kingdom around 500 BC during Spring and Atumn, though there were other generals who performed more stunning battles than Sun.

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Wu Wang - the founding Emperor of Chou dynasty (Last of Chinese Federal dynasties before the total unification of Q'in 221 BC). But his kill as a military commander was not that famous compared to other Chinese generals/kings during the Spring and Atumn (770-476 BC), and Warring States eras (475-221 BC).

The famous Sun Wu (Sun Tzu) was the commander of Wu kingdom around 500 BC during Spring and Atumn, though there were other generals who performed more stunning battles than Sun.

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Alcibiades (c.450404 B.C.)
Athenian statesman and general.
Son of Cleinias and Deinomache, member of the Alcmaeonidae family (mother's side).
Ward of Pericles.
Devoted attendant of Socrates.
Participated at the battle of Potidaea. 432 B.C.

POTIDAEA  432 B.C.
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Archestratus (3,000 Hoplites, 70 Athenian ships) vs Aristeus (2,800 Hoplites)
One of the catalysts for the Pelopnnesian War.  Potidaea, originally paying tribute to Athens now was requested, by Athens, to destroy her defensive walls and expel the Corinthian ambassadors for fear of Potidaea revolting.  Under the command of Archestratus, an Athenian fleet of thirty ships carrying 1,000 hoplites was sent to Portidaea (originally intended for a fight against the Macedonians).  Negotiations broke down in Athens and Sparta promised Potidaea to fight for their revolt against Athens.  Upon arriving, Archestratus attacked the Macedonian army that was already there.  Under Aristeus, an Corinthian army of 1,600 hoplites and 400 light troops were sent to relieve Potidaea.  The Athenian force was reinforced with 2,000 hoplites and 40 ships under the command of Callias, head of a noted Athenian family.  Indecisive actions, the Macedonian and Athenian armies disengaged, both moved towards Potidaea.  Perdiccas, leading the Macedonians, and 200 cavalry joined the Corinthian army.  When the two armies met, the Athenians were victorious with the exception of the wing that fought against Aristeus.  Aristeus, with the remaining Corinthian troops, retreated and hap hazardously returned to Potidaea.  Meanwhile, a small force of Potidaeans arrived to fight the Athenian army.  They were quickly defeated.  The battle took place, but the Macedonian cavalry never joined battle.
300 Corinthian/Potidaean casualties
150 Athenians (including Callias)
Alcibiades and Socrates were among the Athenian soldiers in this battle; Socrates saved Alcibiades' life there.
Again, the Athenians were reinforced by 1,600 hoplites, under Phormino, son of Asopius, a noted Athenian general.  Counter-wall operations commenced on both sides.  The Athenians were successful in cutting Potidaea from the coast with a naval blockade.  These events were took some time and a declaration of war between Sparta and Athens when they failed to come to a compromise.  Though this campaign was successful, it depleted much of the Athenian treasury maintaining the blockade.

Delium  424 B.C.
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Pagondas (18,500 Boeotians) vs Hippocrates (9,000 Athenians)
The Athenians carved out a plan to attack Thebes, a Sparta ally.  Hippocrates would attack Boeotia from the northeast at Delium; Demosthenes from the south.  Demosthenes set sail too early and landed at Siphae.  Since he wasnt strong enough with the force he had, Demosthenes retreated.  Hippocrates arrived in Boeotia and immediately began to fortify Delium.  The fortifications were completed and Hippocrates sent the rest of the army back to Athens.  The commander of the Boeotian forces, Pagondas of Thebes, convinced his troops to attack Delium, despite the fact that the garrison poised no threat.  The Boeotian army consisted of 7,000 hoplites, 1,000 cavalry, 500 peltast, and 10,000 light troops.  The troops from Thebes formed the right wing, the center; men from Haliartia, Coronaea, and Copaea, the left wing; Thespiae, Tanagra, and Orchomenia (Locrian troops would later join this force).  Hippocrates joined the Athenian force.  When he was giving his speech to his troops, the Boeotians unexpectedly attacked.  Fierce fighting took place in the center of both armies.  The Boeotian left wing became surrounded and defeated, but Pagondas supported his left wing using his cavalry which defeated the Athenians.  At about this time, the Boeotian right wing became victorious.  With both wings gone, the Athenian center fled.  Most of the Athenians fled to the Delium fort.  The Boeotians made no notable advances on Delium for two weeks.  A Corinthian force of 2,000 hoplites arrived on site.  By this time, the Boeotians had constructed a type of flamethrowing device.  The weapon was used against the fort at Delium and forced the Athenians to flee.
NOTE: Some Athenians soldiers included Socrates and Alcibiades.  Alcibiades saved Socrates (this act impressed Hipponicus whom bestowed upon him his daughter, Hipparete).
1,200 Athenians casualties (including Hippocrates)
  500 Boeotians casualties
NOTE: Demosthenes arrived at Sicyon, but this time he was too late.  Unable to locate Hippocrates force, he encountered the combined forces of the Boeotians and Corinthians.  He was quickly defeated.

Became a proponent for the continuation of war against Sparta after the death of Cleon.  422 B.C.
Involved in politics after the Peace of Nicias. 421 B.C.
Encouraged an alliance against Sparta.

Mantinea 418 B.C.
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Agis II (4,200 Spartans) vs. Mantineans/Argos/Athens (4,000)
The Argives attacked the Epidaurians, an ally of Sparta and traditional enemy of Argos in 419 B.C.  One of the kings of Sparta, Agis II, made an unpopular 4-month truce with Argos.  The Athenians, warring with Sparta, found a way to make the Argives break their truce with Sparta.  Agis II, with a Sparta army and troops from Arcadia, Corinth, Boeotia, Phocis, and Locris, invaded mantinea, near Argos.  The Argive army prepared itself for battle and formed a defensive position on a hill, Agis was persuaded by his advisors not to assault the hill.  He retreated and starting laying waste to the land and irrigation works.  Meanwhile, the Argive army marched near a Temple of Heracles and surprised the Spartans the next day.  Brasidas (not the famous Brasidas), the Thracians, and the Sciritae (an elite unit of Spartan troops) formed the left wing, the Spartans, Arcadians, and Maenalians in the centre, and the Tegeans on the right wing.  The Argive lines were formed by the Mantineans on the right, the Argives in the centre, and the Athenians on the left.  Each right flank of the opposing army began to outflank the other's left.  Agis unsuccessfully tried to strengthen his line.  The Mantineans rushed into the gap created by these movements.  Despite the opportunist situation, the Argives and Athenians fled immediately.  The Mantineans retreated soon after.  In 417 B.C., a truce was signed by Argos and Sparta which encouraged an alliance against other hostile city-states.
1,100 Argive casualties 300 Spartan casualties

Strong promoter of the Sicilian campaign.  415 B.C.
Nicias, Lamachus, Alcibiades led this Athenian force.
For want of allies, he proposed allying with the cities of Selinus and Syracuse.  He was overruled by Nicias.
He was summoned back to Athens, leaving Nicias to his fate in Sicily.
Accused of mutilating the statues of Hermes, Alcibiades sailed for Athens, but diverted his ship to Argos, a Spartan ally, after he discovered he was condemned to death and his property confiscated.
Became an advisor to King Agis I of Sparta, who later would be victorious against Athens.
NOTE:  He persuaded King Agis I to send Gylippus to Syracus and fortify Decelea at Attica.  He successfully encourages Chios to revolt against Athens.  And concluded an alliance with the Persian satrap Tissaphernes.
Lost favor with King Agis I and fled Persia where he became protected under Tissaphernes.  412 B.C.
NOTE: Seduced and impregnated the Spartan Queen, Agis II, whom later orders his execution.
NOTE: Influenced the Persian satrap Tissaphernes to avoid the conflict between Sparta and Athens and allow them to wear each other out.
Failing to attach himself to the oligarth Peisander, he hooked up with their opponents whom had a fleet at Samos.
A political shift in Athens (fall of the Four Hundred), Alcibiades was recalled at the request of Thrasybulus.  411 B.C.
Defeated the Spartan fleet at Abydos.
NOTE: Not sure if Abydos and Cynossema are the same battles.  They appear in the same year, however, no information is available about the battle at Abydos (the Cynossema battle has ships coming from Abydos).
Defeats the Peloponnesian fleet off Cyzicus.  410 B.C.

CYZICUS  410 B.C.
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Alcibiades vs. Spartan fleet (commander not found)
A small-scale naval battle that was decisive for the Athenians.  Apparently, Alcibiades sent a decoy fleet that spurred the Spartan fleet.  The decoy ships then moved towards the main Athenian fleet which manhandled the Spartans.  The outcome, however, had little effect and the Spartans quickly rebuilt their fleet.

Recovers Chalcedon and Byzantium.  408 B.C.
Upon returning to Athens, he discovered all the accounts against him were repealed.
Appointed general with unconditional powers.  407 B.C.
Failed at Andros (no details available).
His lieutenant Antiochus was defeated by the new Spartan commander, Lysander at Notium.  406 B.C.

Notium (or Ephesus) 406 B.C.
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Antiochus (75 triremes) vs. Lysander (90 triremes)
In 407 B.C., Lysander, who was appointed as navarch, commander of the Spartan fleet, sailed west to Ephesus.  Establishing a base with 90 triremes, he established diplomatic relations with Cyrus, a Persian prince.  NOTE: Cyrus agreed to provide funds for the Spartan rowers.  Alcibiades, awaiting for an opportunity to fight with the Spartan fleet, brought his fleet to Notium.  With Lysander refusing to engage in battle, Alcibiades sailed north with a few ships to assist Thrasybulus in the siege of Phocaea.  NOTE: Doing this was an unorthodox action.  He is later criticized by both anicent and modern tacticians for this action.  Antiochus was ordered by Alcibiades not to attack.  Antiochus choose to ignore Alcibiades orders.  Antiochus sailed out with a decoy fleet of 10 triremes.  His plan was to draw out the Peloponnesians then ambush them with the main fleet.  A similiar tactic at Cyzicus.  However, Antiochus' ship is sunk by a sudden attack by the Spartans.  The remaining nine ships flee towards Notium.  At Notium, the Athenian fleet is caught unprepared by the attack.  The Spartans sailed back to Ephesus.  Alcibiades lifts the siege of Phocaea upon hearing word of the attack.  Despite his efforts he still failed to bring Lysander out to battle.  Notium was Alcibiades downfall.  He was removed from office (as well as Thrasybulus).  Because of term limits, Lysander was replaced by Callicratidas.
 7 Athenian triremes sunk.
15 Athenian triremes captured.
NOTE: Donald Kagan suggest that the most important effect of the battle on the Athenian side was the removal from command of Thrasybulus, the Athenian who planned all the naval victories of 411 and 410 B.C.

Alcibiades was dismissed from command and exiled.
Moved to the western shore of the Hellespont.
Attempted to warn the Athenian fleet at Aegospotamos whom ignored him and were defeated.  405 B.C.
Took refuge with Pharnabazus in Phrygia.
Initiated plans to aid Artaxerxes against Sparta, but the Persian satrap Pharnabazus, upon advise of Lysander, had Alcibiades assassinated.  404 B.C.





http://www.bartleby.com/65/al/Alcibiad.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcibiades
http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/people/a/alcibiades.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notium
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/battle_of_cyzicus
http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/se/~luv20009/Mantinea1.html
http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/battlesofsparta/article s/mantinea.aspx
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/battle_of_mantine a_418_bc1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Delium
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/battle_of_delium
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Epaminondas (418?-362 B.C.)
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Theban general
Epanminondas is a member of Congo's Top 100 Commanders of All Time.
NOTE: This portfolio of Epaminodas has not been updated for several years.
Studied philosophy with Pythagorian philosopher Lysis of Tarentum.
(Also had constant philosophical conversations with Theban Simias and the Tarentine Spintharos, both pupils of Socrates.)
Fought at the battle of Arkadians.  385 B.C.
Saved friend and commander Pelopidas after a hard struggle.  Both seriously wounded.
Captured the Sikyonian town of Phoebia.
(Did not kill Boeotian fugitives as directed under the Theban law, but assigned them new nationality of their choosing and set them free.)
A Theban delegat to the peace conference.  371 B.C.
(Refused to surrender his claim to represent all Boeotia.  Sparta therefore excluded Thebes from the peace.
He was the first serious student of battlefield tactics in Greece (that we know of).   
Two main innovations were his alteration of the phalanx
(into the form that would later allow the Macedonians to take all Greece, and most of the known world.)
and also he introduced the concept of combined arms onto the battlefield. 
Noticed the phalanxs inevitable tendency to shift to the right, as each man in the line tried to cover himself as much as possible under the next man's shield. 
Reinforced the left flank to 50 men deep.
Kept his right flank back, threatening the enemy's left, but not engaging it till necessary.  This is the oblique order of battle.
Able to bring a superior force of cavalry, both in quantity and quality.
Thebans defeated the Spartans, who outnumbered them by about 4,000 at Leucatra.  371 B.C.

LEUCATRA
First, he sent his cavalry forward, which defeated, but did not route the Spartan cavalry and light infantry. 
Following this, lined up his army in oblique order, and smashed into the Spartans right, where the best Spartans and their king, Cleombrotos, were. 
The deeper phalanx smashed through the Spartan line before the Spartans were able to reinforce it. King Cleombrotos was killed, and the Spartan right wing collapse.   The Spartan left sees this, having not yet even engaged the Thebans, who were still holding back, retreated.  This victory ended the dominance of Sparta over Greece. 
Bolstered Boeotian power by building up Messenian independence from Sparta.
Appointed as a mere hoplite in an expedition of the Theban army to rescue Pelopidas, who had been captured by Alexander of Pherae.
Gained control of army after difficulties arose, returned to Thebes.
Appointed Boetarch, immediately returned to Thessaly with an army to force the release of Pelopidas.
Crushed Sparta, currently allied with Athens, at Mantinea.  362 B.C.

MANTINEA
The Thebans faced off against most of the rest of Greece, with even Athens allying with Sparta. This time the armies met at Mantinea, where the Thebans outnumbered the Spartans and their allies.  The Spartans hadn't learned anything since the Leucatra, as Epaminondas repeated his tactics from before.  In addition, Agesilaos, the Spartan king, had underestimated Epaminondas. 
As his army had arrived to Mantinea, first, he had them at ease, thinking that the Thebans would not attack the first day they arrived because they had made a longer march.  But Epaminondas saw this and sprung.  He again formed up in oblique order, had his cavalry drive the enemy cavalry and light infantry from the field, then attacked the Spartan left flank.  As this occurred, he moved up with his deeper left and smashed through the right flank of the Spartans. However, Epaminondas was killed in the last stage of the battle, and Thebes lost its nerve, so it did not pursue the fleeing Spartans. 
His brilliant tactics in war were studied by both Philip II and Alexander the Great.
Great capacity for organizing men and handling them on the battlefield.
Genius in the military ar, breaking away from the conventions of the old-style Laconian drillmasters.
No personal ambitions, except to serve his country.
Under his leadership, the Theban army never plundered.
Responsible for the breaking of the Spartan Hegemony. 

- Wolcott3W7@aol.com  04/08/01
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As an interesting side note, during this period, Philip II of Macedonia was a hostage in Thebes, and he learned Theban tactics and organization directly from Epaminondas, much like young Gustavus Adolphus learned Dutch tactics and organization from Maurice of Nassau during his stay there. In both cases, the student eventually became greater than the master. Id probably put Epaminondas somewhere in the lower fifty.  He only fought two major battles, but they were against the Spartans, and one can't ask for a higher quality opponent in any age.

- Statement by Epaminondas to an envoy of King Artaxerxes of Peria, who tried to bride him.
There is no need for money in this matter: for if the king desires what is for the good of the Thebans, I am ready to do it for nothing; if otherwise, he has not silver and gold enough to move me, for I would not exchange the riches of the whole world for my love for my country.  You, who have tried me thus without knowing my character, and who have thought me like yourself I do not blameand I forgive you; but quit the city at once, lest you corrupt others, though unable to corrupt me.

- Epaminondas, on him not having any children.
I cannot want for posterity.  For I leave behind me a daughter,---the victory of Leuctra, that must of necessity not merely survive me, but be immortal!
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Demosthenes (384 BC - 322 BC)
Greek's greatest orator

No military experience - Important Greek figure.

"Beware lest in your anxiety to avoid war you obtain a master.


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Demosthenes (? ? ? - 413 B.C.)
Athenian General
Son of Alcisthenes.
Commanded a fleet that was sent to Naupactus to blockade Corinth, Sparta's ally.  426 B.C.
Ignored the request for assistance from the Ambracian and instead of invading the island of Leucas; Aetolia was invaded (it was a threat to the port of Naupactus).
The Ambracian allies refused to assist in this campaign.
Expected allies also did not show up (the Locrians).
Campaign in Aetolia proved difficult as Demothenes discovered his heavy-armed hoplites were not fast enough against the lightly-armored Aetolians (Locrians could have been able to counter this attack with their javelin throwers).
By the end of the war season, 180 of his men of 300 survived.
Did not return to Athens for fear of his life for his failure in the campaign.
With the Ambracians refusing to join their Athenian allies and the Locrians not fighting, the Aetolians started an alliance with Sparta.  425 B.C.
Demosthenes managed to find a way to re-unit the Ambracian forces with his own (through negotiations).
Returned to Naupactus, the Spartans retreated when they realized the city would not be stormed.
The Spartans turned on the town Amphilochian Argos, an Ambracian ally.
NOTE: Some time later Ambracians became an ally to the Spartans - specifics not found.
Became a private citizen.
The Acarnanians sought help from Demosthenes.
With a group of volunteers, followed the Spartan army north near Argos.
Both armies waited for 5 days before Eurylochus, the Spartan commander, moved against the Athenian volunteer force.
Demosthenes left his left flank weak which allowed the Spartans to encircle his force.  The Spartans were suddenly attacked by a reserve force that Demosthenes had left in the rear.  This caused the Spartans to panick; victory was complete.
NOTE: Eurylochus and one other Spartan commanders were killed.
What was left of the Spartan army was besieged and their commander, Mendaeus, surrendered.
Demosthenes gave them generous terms (safe passage back to Sparta), but continued to war against the Ambracians.
The Ambracian army was coming to relieve the Spartans (who had already surrendered).
Surprised the Ambracians and wiped out the force.
Athens was the dominate force in western Greece theater.
Established an Athenian fort in Pylos, which was owned by the Messenians and hostile towards Sparta.  Spring 425 B.C.

Pylos 425 B.C.
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King Agis (? ? ?) vs. Demosthenes (? ? ?)
King Agis invaded Attica.  The Athenians, using a fleet of 40 ships, landed at Pylos and began fortify their position.  Once King Agis received word of the news, he removed his army from Attica and marched to Pylos.  He also had a fleet of 60 ships meet him there.  Six days later, the fortification was complete and the Athenians fleet left for Corcyra and Sicily (5 ships remained behind).  Demosthenes had the 40 Athenian ships return after word was received of the Spartan fleet nearby.
The plan for the Spartans was to blockade the Pylos port and land an army on Sphacteria, a nearby island.  A Spartan force of 440 hoplites, led by Epitadas, landed on Sphateria.  Demosthenes, most of his army consisted of unarmed sailors, took 60 hoplites to defend the beach against the Spartan landing.  Demothenes inspired his troops with a speech (stating the Athenians will be victorious if they stand their ground on the beach).  A Spartan fleet of 43 ships arrived under the command of Thrasymelidas and Brasidas.  The Spartan amphibious landing was repulsed and Bradsidas was injured.  The Athenian fleet of 50 ships arrived.  The Spartan fleet refused battle at sea and unintentionally allowed the Athenian fleet to enter the port of Pylos.  The Athenian fleet than chased the Spartan fleet away which suddenly isolated the 292 Spartan troops on Spacteria.
NOTE: Spartans offered a truce, but Cleon refused.  Many in Athens felt this was a mistake.

Cleon met Demosthenes at Pylos.
Attacked the Spartans on Sphacteria and forced them to uncharacteristically surrender.
Returned to Athens receiving a hero's welcome.
Demosthenes and Hippocrates failed to capture Megara and were defeated by Brasidas.  424 B.C.
Cleon and Demosthenes carved out a plan to attack Thebes, another Sparta ally.
Cleon and Hippocrates would attack Boeotia from the northeast at Delium; Demosthenes from the south.
The plan was betrayed and Demosthenes defeated at Sicyon.
NOTE: Cleon was defeated at Delium and Brasidas, the Spartan general, took Amphipolis.
Cleon and Brasidas were killed at the battle of Amphipolis.
Demosthenes was discredited and Athens signed a peace treaty.
Despite being discredited, Demosthenes was one of the Athenians who swore the oaths for the signing of the Peace of Nicias.  The Archidamian War ended.  March 421
NOTE: There were actual two people with the same name of Demosthenes; the other was from Sparta.
Conducted minor operations in Epidaurus.  418-417 B.C.
Following the battle of Mantinea, he organized the evacuation of the Athenian troops.
Despite the fact that the Spartans, led by their king, Agis II, occupied Decelea near Athens, the Athenians sent Demosthenes and Eurymedon with 73 ships and 5,000 hoplites to resurrection the ill-fated Syracuse campaign.  413 B.C.
NOTE: Nicias fell ill, Alcibiades, was recalled, and Lamachus was killed in action.  The Athenians failed to surround the city. 
NOTE: The Spartan occupation of Decelea started the Decelean or Ionian War.
Reached Syracuse.  413 B.C.
Demosthenes immediately attacked the counterwall by surprised, but was repulsed.
Demosthenes suggests an evacuation of Syracuse; the campaign could not be won.  Nicias was against the idea.
After waiting for a surrender of the Syracusans, Nicias agreed.
The night of the evacuation (August 27, 413), a lunar eclipse occurred.  Nicias viewed this an omen from bad origins and delayed the evacuation.
Soon after, the Syracusans blocked the harbor, ending the thought of evacuation by sea.
NOTE: Eurymedon was killed when the Syracusans took the harbor.
Nicias abandoned his position.  Attempted to travel to north to Catana.  Harrassed by Syracusan cavalry.
Six days later, they turned south.
Demosthenes' troops fell behind and surrendered; accepting slavery.
A day later, Nicias surrendered.
Against the orders of Gylippus, the Spatan commander, Demosthenes and Nicias were execution.
All the Athenians soon died from malnutrition and exposure as they worked in a stone quarry.







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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demosthenes_(general)


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Brasidas (? ? ? to 422 BC)
Spartan officer
Son of Tellis and Argileonis

Relieved Methone, which was besieged by the Athenians.

Methone 431 B.C.
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Brasidas (100) vs. Unknown Athenian general (? ? ?)
An Athenian army, carried by 100 ships, landed in Spartan territory at Methone.  Brasidas happened to be nearby.  Finding the Athenian army dispersed, he charged against the Athenians and forced his way into Methone, thus saving the city. 
NOTE: First Spartan to receive the official 'congratulations of Sparta'.

Was a eponymous ephor.  430 B.C.
NOTE: An ephor was an official of ancient Sparta. There were five ephors elected annually, who swore each month to uphold the rule of the kings, while the kings swore to uphold the law.
One of three commissioners to be advisors to admiral Cnemus in the attacks on Rhion, Naupactos and Salamis.  429 B.C.
Distinguished himself at the battle of Pylos.

Pylos 425 B.C.
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King Agis (? ? ?) vs. Demosthenes (? ? ?)
King Agis invaded Attica.  The Athenians, using a fleet of 40 ships, landed at Pylos and began fortify their position.  Once King Agis received word of the news, he removed his army from Attica and marched to Pylos.  He also had a fleet of 60 ships meet him there.  Six days later, the fortification was complete and the Athenians fleet left for Corcyra and Sicily (5 ships remained behind).  Demosthenes had the 40 Athenian ships return after word was received of the Spartan fleet nearby.
The plan for the Spartans was to blockade the Pylos port and land an army on Sphacteria, a nearby island.  A Spartan force of 440 hoplites, led by Epitadas, landed on Sphateria.  Demosthenes, most of his army consisted of unarmed sailors, took 60 hoplites to defend the beach against the Spartan landing.  Demothenes inspired his troops with a speech (stating the Athenians will be victorious if they stand their ground on the beach).  A Spartan fleet of 43 ships arrived under the command of Thrasymelidas and Brasidas.  The Spartan amphibious landing was repulsed and Bradsidas was injured.  The Athenian fleet of 50 ships arrived.  The Spartan fleet refused battle at sea and unintentionally allowed the Athenian fleet to enter the port of Pylos.  The Athenian fleet than chased the Spartan fleet away which suddenly isolated the Spartan troops on Spacteria.
NOTE: After a failed truce; the Athenians invaded Sphacteria.

Harrassed the Athenian force at Megara in Thrace.  424 B.C.
Marched 1,700 men through Thessaly and joined the Macedonian king, Perdiccas.
Abandoning Perdiccas due to a difference in goals, he successfully won over Acanthus, Stagirus, Amphipolis, Torone and a few minor towns through negotiations. 

The Capture of Amphipolis  Winter of 424 B.C.
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Brasidas (? ? ?) vs. Eucles (? ? ?)
Located along the Strymon river, Amphipolis was attacked by Brasidas.  Eucles sent for help from thucydides who was located at Thasos with 7 Athenian ships.  Brasidas offered retention of everyone's property and safe passage for those who wished to leave.  Despite Eucles' protests, Amphipolis surrendered.

Attacking Eion, an Athenian force, led by Thucydides, the historian, disrupted the Spartan attack with those who had left Amphipolis.
NOTE: Despite the victory at Eion, Thucydides was recalled to Athens and was tried, founnd 'gross negligence' for his failure to save Amphipolis and exiled.

Imperiled a truce between Athens and Sparta when he refused to hand over Scione whom the Athenians declared had revolted days before the truce.
Occupied the town of Mende, further hampering the truce.
Under Nicias and nicostratus, an Athenian fleet recovered Mende and blockaded Scione.  423 B.C.
Rejoined Perdiccas and defeated the Lyncesti whom were led by their king, Arrhabaeus.
Disaster struck when the Illyrians, whom were allied with Perdiccas, declared their allegiance for Arrhabaeus.  The Macedonians then fled.  Brasidas managed to extricate himself from the situation.
The quarrel between Brasidas and Perdiccas promply led to a concluded treaty between Athens and Macedonia.
The Sparta/Athen treaty expired.  April 422
An Athenian force of 30 ships, 1,200 hoplites and 300 cavalry, led by Cleon, was sent to Thrace.
Cleon captured Torone Scione, and Galepsus.
NOTE: Pasitelidas, the Spartan commander at Scione, was killed.

Amphipolis 422 B.C.
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Brasidas (2,300) vs. Cleon (1,800)
Cleon positioned his troops at Eion; Brasidas at cerdylium.  Unconvinced victory could be attained against Cleon, Brasidas, moved his forces back into Amphipolis.  Cleon advanced on Amphipolis and, after realizing Brasidas had no intentions of setting up for battle, prepared to return to Eion.  The Spartans, led by Brasidas, charged the disorganized Athenian troops.  The Spartan commander, Clearidas, kills Cleon.  The Athenian army flees to Eion
600 Athenians killed, including Cleon.
  7 Spartans killed, one of them was Brasidas.

Buried at Amphipolis and a cenotaph was erected, near the tombs of Pausanias and Leonidas, in his memory at Sparta.
With Brasidas and Cleon, both strong advocators of war, killed, this paved the way for Sparta and Athens to conclude a peace treaty.
The Peace of Nicias was signed.  421 B.C.

Jon Martin in 'Brasidas-Sparta's Most Extraordinary Commander'
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"Although Lysander is the best known of the Spartan commanders of the war, being the architect of final victory, no other single Spartan exhibited the flexibility of intellect, persuasiveness of oratory and bravery and skill in combat. So exceptional were his abilities that traditional, ultra-conservative Sparta did as much to suppress his actions as did any Athenian foe. In a more modern context, he may be compared to Rommel, a popular and chivalric general, dispatched by his country to a remote theater of war, with an inadequate force and little expectation of success. Like Rommel, he would astonish enemy and friend with his victories, but unlike Rommel, he would ultimately triumph."





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http://brasidas.area51.ipupdater.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Pylos
http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/FamousSpartans.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephors

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Mardonius (? ? ? - 479 B.C.)
Persian General
Son of Gobryas, who was one of seven men who led the overthrow of the Medes, and son-in-law of Darius I.
NOTE: He married his daughter, Artozostra.
Within the Ionian cities, Mardonius surprisingly established democratic governments (deposing the Persian princes) in the attempt to appease the Ionians from revolting a second time.
With an army, sent to Greece to punish Athens and Eretria for their assistance in the Ionian Revolt (which had failed).  492 B.C.
Thrace and Macedonia submit  to Marodius and pay tribute to the Persians.
Also has Thasos to submit to the Persians.
His fleet was destroyed by a storm when it left the island of Thasos and attempted to navigate Mount Athos.
NOTE: Herodotus lists gives a number, but it is hardly worth noting as it seems quite inaccurate.
Mardonius, despite the lost of his fleet, continues the campaign
In Thrace, his camp is attacked at night by  the Briygi, wild Thracian tribe.  Casualties are high and Mardonius is wounded.
He subdues the Briygi tribe.
With a depleted force and his fleet lost, he elected to abandon the campaign and retreat back to Asia Minor.
Darius relieves him of command of the army.  490 B.C.
NOTE:Artaphrenes takes command and is defeated at Marathon.
Darius dies, his son, Xerxes I, takes command.
Mardonius supports the preparation of war against the rebellious Egyptians; also advised to go after the Greeks when the Egyptian campaign is done.
NOTE: Another advisor, named Artabanus, offered to be cautious towards the Greeks.  However, Mardonius took advantage of the fact that Xerxes father had strong ambitions in Europe and to avenge the defeat at Marathon.
NOTE: The campaign in Egypt was successful, though, it doesn't appear Mardonius participated in it.  His strong demand to war against Greece was awarded with becoming one of seven commanders to control of the army.  By far, of the commanders, he was the most trusted and respected by Xerxes.
The Persian army crosses the Hellespont on a pontoon bridge.
NOTE: Messengers were sent to Greek cities.  Demanding their symbolic submission through earth and water.  cities that surrendered were forced to add more troops to the already large Persian army.
Mardonius' participation of various battles goes unrecorded.
Athens is captured and burnt.
The Persian navy suffers a crushing defeat at Salamis.
NOTE: Suspecting the failed campaign would be blamed on him, he blamed the Persian allies and offered Xerxes an exit strategy while he remains in Greece to resolve this matter.  Xerxes is satisfied with this plan and gives governorship to Mardonius of what was still in Persian control in Greece.
Secures the retreat to Thessaly.
At this time, the people of Athens prepared to punish the city-states that joined the Persians.
Allied with the Macedonian king, Alexander I.
Using Alexander, offered a truce and ultimatum with the Athenians, but was politely rejected (making sure the Spartans witnessing the event).
Marched to Athens and captured the undefended city.  479
NOTE: Which was still deserted after it had been captured and partically burnt.
Sent another message for the Athenians to surrender.
Upon hearing word of the Spartans march to Attica to assist them, he sacks and abandons Athens.
Marched north into Boeotia.
Built a fortress near Thebes.
Skimishes occur for the next two months.  April/May 479
The Greek army moved north to Eleusis; positioning itself in the foothills of Mount Cithaeron.
Mardonius positioned his army along the Asopos river.
Sent his cavalry to harass the Greeks, this continued until Masistius, their commander, was thrown form his horse and killed.
NOTE: His men failed to recover the body.  This tested the morale of the Persian army.
The Greeks emerged from the foothills onto the plains of Plataea arrayed themselves relative to their city-state origin.
Athenians formed the left wing; Spartans formed the right (the Tegeans were in the middle).
Sacrifices were made for 10 days, but each result for Mardonius was a bad omen (small skirmishes occurred each day).
Mardonius began preparations for combat on the 11th day.
NOTE: Alexander I successfully warns the Greeks about the attack.  During the night, the Spartans and Athenians switched positions.
Viewing his best troops were not affront with the Spartans; Mardonius challenged the Spartans in a winner-take-all battle between them and his best troops.  The Spartans refused.

Plataea  479 B.C.
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Mardonius (80,000) vs. Pausanias [Spartan General] (110,000)
The Greeks positioned themselves on the Asopus ridge, terrain rough on expected cavalry attacks.  They also had 5,000 Spartan warriors in the army, the largest among of Spartans ever gathered for battle.  However, their supply line had to be delivered along the Asopus river.  Mardonius sent the Persian cavalry against the Greek infantry.  The cavalry was somewhat successful as they pried the Greeks from the river.  Fighting continued for the rest of the day.  By day's end, the Greeks retreated to a better tactical location.  The next morning, viewing the retreat as a sign of weakness, Mardonius, leading the way, sends in his best troops.  Much of the combat took place around the temple of Hera.  The Persian troops were unable to penetrate the Greek lines as the long spears bested the short, Persian sword and spears.  The Greeks were able to surround Mardonius and Aeimnestus, a Spartan, kill him.
NOTE: Despite the Spartans' refusal to initiate the act, the Greeks cut the head off of Mardonius and placed on a stake (much like the same fate Leonidas at Thermopylae).  He body was never recovered.
Artabazus, upon becoming the new military commander of the Persian force, ordered an immediate retreat.
Inaccurate losses, however, it is traditionally safe to say that the loser had large number killed and the winner had a much smaller number (Herodotus suggests 159)
NOTE: The Greeks later attack the Persian fortress near Thebes.
NOTE: Mycale supposively took place on the same day.  The Greek navy destroys the Persian fleet, effectively destroying Persian dominance in the Aegean sea.

CONGO NOTE
Mardonius seemed like a good negotiator.  However, it seems that anything he touched in Greece turned bad for the Persians.  Even his negotiation skills fell apart.  Not really a good military commander, but he was a big player on the losing side of big events.







SOURCES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mardonius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataea
www.herodotuswebsite.co.uk/marathon.htm
http://www.herodotuswebsite.co.uk/plataea.htm
http://messagenet.com/myths/ppt/Mardonius_1.html

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