http://ayeen-avesta.blogspot.com/ - http://ayeen-avesta.blogspot.com/

Read " Quran Sorodei be sabke Parsi" book After "23 sal"
Disappintedly my Link dosen't exist anymore.
if any one have link, put at farsi ebook artickle

In my Openion he was big traitor, who had lead enemy to his mother land

That nationalism was not common at that times. And even I will put my religion prior to my blood. He did what he think right as just all honorful man.

You are aproaching to Politcal sight, Who Bump?
He is Historic person as Rostam Farokhzad but so opposite manners.

Rostam sacrifice himself to Graeat Iran, but salman side ... arabs.

at Religious view: we must proud to him, indeed Islam is indebted to him
but at Patrotic view: He were great traitor to our mother land

yes sure he was the real mohammed. he also created christanity judaisim and all other religions. everthing came from iran , iran is the world and the world is iran. human are actully iranian and then they became humans.

the good news is that its only you and people like you who r thinking this way without proofs and sources.

yea when they became shiiees.

and shiees are muslims and others who call them selfs muslims are kafers right?

i wonder untill the samanids iranians were zoroastrain or sunnie kafers?

Hey People Azimuth RETURNS!!!!!

& Thanks god , all Humans aren't ARAB, If they were, still grave their girls, still victimize own son to god, still were in desert follow Lizards, still burn books & says we have Quran

Why not????

Land of Aryan you are realy a lost cause. I didnt ever think iranians are so ultra-nationalist. It is weird you build a islamic country, But you have nothing related with islam. If we accept islams came from Iranians, Should we call iranians also Allah?

@Mortaza

We didn't say Islam comes From Iran,

This aricle was about Salman Farsi & his hand in Islam.

Did you have read all Posts???

yes sure he was the real mohammed. he also created christanity judaisim and all other religions. everthing came from iran , iran is the world and the world is iran. human are actully iranian and then they became humans.

the good news is that its only you and people like you who r thinking this way without proofs and sources

You read this?

& Thanks god , all Humans aren't ARAB, If they were, still grave their girls, still victimize own son to god, still were in desert follow Lizards, still burn books & says we have Quran

And this one is not nice too. They made their mistakes too. so what? Everyone made mistake. You dont need to attack all race.

I dont think all Iranians are like you, or I hope not. I dont care If you claim saka are iranic, safavids are iranic. or so on so on. But this is too much.

Ramin you are so ignorant, Vedism created zoroastrism, Zoroastrism created Islam, this is an evidence. We call that evolution...

Salman Al farci grew up in a zoroastrian family. Each monotheist concept is plagia of zoroastrism...

Yes the world mind comes from the aryan religion (zoroastrism and vedism). Proofs: Nietzcheh:" thus spoke zarathustra" and different comparative studies. One day you will understand the power of Iran 

Thank you Magavan

about Salman refer to " Quran Nahl 103 "
name of Salman & Islam & Salam has same orgin come from Sa,La,ma
basic samples for debt of Islam from Iran:

1. 5 pray (namaz) of Muslim is copy from 5 pary of Zartoshtian even in the same times of day

2. " Ashhado ana la elaha ela Allah  v ashhado ana Mohmmad rasol Allah " = " man aghrar daram v ostovaram bedin Mazdisni ke mokhalefe dive parasti ast v Zartosht avarande in kish Ahoraei ast" both with same Translation = " I Confess to God & Zartosht/Mohamad is messenger from God "

3. " Besme Allah alrhman e alrahim " = " be nam Izad bakhshande va mehraban " same traslation too = " in the name of compassionate & Merciful God "

3. Equality of women & men in Iran, cause to save arab girls life who graved by her father, but still woman is 1/2 man in Islam

4. Equality of people, first raised by Mazdak

5. Serat Birdge in Islam = Chinvat bridge in Avesta

6. Mehrabe with(å) was place to Praise of Mitra ,in Islam become Mehrab with(Í) & means " place of war " but still is place for pray!!!!

7. Ghadr nights debted from our Yalda night
...

Christendom debts:
1. Xmas night = Mitra Birthday
2. noel pine = Aryan Cedar
3. Halovin night = Zartoshtian's deads night
...

in most of religions one man will come & eliminate tyranny & will govern with justice
first found at Zarvan openion is Mitra, then in Zartoshtism is Soshiant, in Islam is Mahdi

Resurrection day first come from Zarvan & then Zartosht

Paradise = Pardis ,& hell too

Compare "Cyrus the great behaviour to outsiders & most Important Jews", with Muslims behaviour with outsiders as us, They bayonet us to accept Relagion or leave land or pay ransom.

& more......

refer to " 23 sal " & " Quran Sordehei be sabke Parsi " & "az Mitra ta Mohammad " Books & http://ayeen-avesta.blogspot.com/ - http://ayeen-avesta.blogspot.com/

So we believe in a iranic religion? This is complately a insult to us.

What name did you give your this new ideas? Sun theory? Need help?

Every things intended to Iran insult you & Oguzoglu & Kenaney.

Safavid is Insult to you
Saka is Insult to you
Molana is Insult to you
Amazon is Insult to you
Turanian is Insult to you
I am Insult to you
Magevan is Insult to you
anyway name of IRAN is Insult to you

Yes I'm Patriot, & I'll not be quiet about IRAN

Oguzoglu Deny Chaldoran Battle
Kenaney revile us
in the tourism advertiseing at satellite channel, you use our Partia Statue.
what about your glorious Mongol fathers bloodbath at Nishabor, Isfahan, Kerman, Sabzevar,...
These aren't insult to you????? 

Yes, These are Insult to me, but I never offensive you.

Pah, My friend I dont care about history. Past is past. Reality is both of us is poor and pathetic countries.

 But I realy no intent of believing an iranian religion. Infact

You should realy think about sun theory.

One night the Persian scribe had a dream in which he was hovering above the figure of Mohammad the Prophet's cave on Mount Cone....[It] struck him that his point of view had been that of the arch-angel, and at that moment the memory of the incident of the Satanic verses came back to him as vividly as if the thing had happened the previous day. "Maybe I hadn't dreamed of myself as Gibreel," Salman recounted. "Maybe I was Shaitan [Satan]." The realization of this possibility gave him his diabolic idea. After that, when he sat at the Prophet's feet, writing down rules rules rules, he began, surreptitiously, to change things.
"Little things at first. If Mohammad recited a verse in which God was described as all-hearing, all-knowing, I would write, all-knowing, all-wise. Here's the point: Mohammad did not notice the alterations. So there I was, actually writing the book, polluting the word of God with my own profane language. But, good heavens, if my poor words could not be distinguished from the Revelation by God's own messenger, then what did that mean? What did that say about the quality of the divine poetry? Look, I swear, I was shaken to my soul....I was writing the Revelation and nobody was noticing, and I didn't have the courage to own up. I was scared silly, I can tell you. Also: I was sadder than I have ever been. Ahmed Rushdie (Salman)

I think Iranians are more ultranationalist than any race. I have no problem with iranians. But this is realy realy becoming comic. And when they thin Islam came from Iran, It becomes also boring. Do you realy believe Islam? I will not believe a religion which cames from a man.

Ahmed Rushdie (Salman)? will we realy care about what this guy write? I think even Iranians dont like him much. It looks like the Iranian member of this post are not much relation with  iranians. Or all iran think like this?

Islam as tokhme Iran miad, Donia as tokhme Iran miad.

Everything in this world come from  arya-vaeja / Arya-varta.

lol magavan, don't make it "racist"!

Murtaza, "living under an Islamic state" has had a big effect on Iranians, it is a fact that some Iranians really hate Islam and some others try to make it Iranian!

yea  whatever

you are like what? a 0.000000000001% in the world who thinks like this so i dont think there is any reason for me to care about what you think.

i wonder how much you hate the french you live in their country. and that you who gave them this "Donya"

Donia doesn't come form Iranian because it is an Arabic word!

I always think Dunya is a  Turkish word

Infact I dont care if they hate islam, Or If they change their religion.

But pls dont change my religion.

Where are you from kiyumars?

My friends gran used to think Mohamad and Ali were Iranian. people who want to be muslim have a right to be as much as people who do not.  What I hate is when people try to impose their religious beliefs or lack thereof on others.

kiyumars

Do this justify for destroying islam itself(making it Iranic,Iranian or what ever)?

I am not blaming anyone, but noone have right to destroy my religion too.

Can you give us a couple examples of things “Mullahs” have done that are contradictory to the teachings of their religion

Zagros Purya

If what people write is true, You are trying to destroy a religion because It is not a iranic religion.

Are they destroying a religion, or are you trying to make your own custom made religion and call it Islam

Not me, I advocate religious freedom. Kiyumars is wrong, most people in Iran, if you ask their religion say they are Muslim, even if they do not practice the religion and drink and do other unIslamic things.

Islam is a part of Iran and anyone who denies it is deluded.

Look at the young people here advocating Rafsanjani for the elections, they do not look like obedient and pure muslims like the man they advocate, but I bet if u ask them what their relgiion is they will tell you Muslim.

I personally have no religion and am agnostic, but facts are facts.

The correct thing to say is that Political Islam is dead in iran.

No you misunderstood me, I am not telling Iranian people rejected their religion. In fact, I cant blame them for this.

I mean some of iranians(I dont know who many they are) trying to make islam as a Iranic religion.

No, this is not an Iranian led conspiracy. The academic teaching for a long time (long before Islamic revolution in Iran) has been that Iranic religions have influenced the the surviving western religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) to large degree. Traditionally that information does not get publicized outside the academic world but now some Iranian are discovering the information and connect the dots. You can read this information and decide for yourself if it is true or not, or you can blame the messenger for telling you about something

I do not make it racist because i do not believe in races, there is just ONE race: human race.

But I believe in the evolution of religion 

 Islam will desepear  from Iran.

Behrouz, I think you are generalizing a little. Not everyone analyzing a religion believes that all religions are just a sham, and not everyone believing in a faith has done that by closing his or her eyes and ears to reality

are you only one who is beleive in this Religion??????

ultra-nationalist!!!!  Remeber Turks 1915, The 1'500'000 Armenian

Who has this bravery to say I'm not Muslim anymore in Iran???
except who likes Gallows

Poria: Avaie Dohol az dor shenidan khosh ast

Think about?????? what???????

I don't try to Make it Iranic, it was some information & answer to Azimuth.
All religion is in debt of Zartustra.
Paradise ( even this word is Persian ), hell, Resurrect first come Rartustra
 
for more info refer to:
 L.H.Mills, Our Own Religion in Ancient Persia, la vie future p.255_260
 Sadeghe Hedaiat, Zan va homan iasn ( Bahman Iasht ) p.24
 Azar Faran bogh, Gojastk Abalish

Sorry but you can't compare Tehrangeles and Tehranto to Tehran.

And was this fguys name not:

SALMAN

RUSHTIE?

I voted traitor because I thought the guy you were talking about was the general that converted to Islam and helped the ISlmaic armies against Iran.

Salman Rushtie is not even Iranian, he is an Indian.

lol, Really Funny, Compare to 8 years ago before Khatami at last Rafsanjani period

Zartustra's existince has a big error if you dont know almost all history encyclopedia's mention his existance in the 7th century BC while others suggesting it was like 3800 BC

and where he was born? judaisim started for sure somewhere 1200 BC and prophets mentioned in judaisim chirstianity and islam are from different times and almost nothing there gives credit to persia.

and by having some words similarity is not really a proof and people who made these "Studies" are like everybody else trying to be famouse by making new theories. which obviosly not accepted my the majority of the people.

not even famouse enough.

this tiny paragraph will rise lots of questions.

such as what was Judaism before the persians get controle of Babylon?

whats the proofs that Zaroastrians has been impacted judaism? why not the judaism impacted zaroastrians.

is zaroastrian religion the same from its founders time? or it has developed through the years?

since its not clear when zaroaster was born and the place of his birth , what are the proofs that he founded this religion?

even so what makes Salman AL-Farisi the one who tought the Prophet Mohammed PBUH the Religion ? so Islam came from Zaroasterians or from christans or from Judaism?

to make it easier for you, lets say Salman tought the Prophet about Zaroster and the Prophet said waw this is great i will go and study some chirstianity and judaisim and add them to the Zarosters religion and make up a new one, and i will call it Islam and people will be called muslim and i will pretend that iam recieving masseges from God and tell the people about it and call these masseges as Quran.

here you go this is a brand new theory for you which combines the Western theories and the Persian theories. so dont wast much time and go and write a book about this and offcourse add some more spices to it.

If I'm not mistaken there are books about this "theory", maybe not in English though and also I remember reading somewhere that Salman became a christian for a while, or at least got familiar with their religion and travelled around a bit.

It seems like a plausible theory, it makes sense if Islam was created with the help of Salman, since we already know for a fact that Mohammad was not able to read and write at all.

So all it takes for this theory to be credible is if the person doesn't believe in a miracle that allowed this illiterate person come up with Quran.

Again , as I said before, as long as some people believe in supernatural and others don't, it's impossible to argue about this matter.

I dont think the religion Islam is what makes Iranians angry, but more the fact that Arabs imposed that religion on Persians.  Zoroastrianism, in its basic principles, isnt that far from Islam. 

Zoroaster taught the existence of an uncreated Supreme Diety, Ahura Mazda (Wise Lord), creator of material and spiritual worlds, creator of both light and darkness, founder of the moral order, lawgiver, and judge of all beings.  This isnt that far away from what Muslims believe in God as well.

Im not that familiar with Salman Farsi, but in today's contexts, even Persia would be considered part of the "Axis of Evil" so I dont know if we can judge them by today's standards.

Islam comes from Arabic culture. 5 times a day we listen to arabic radio. I see Turks saltuing each other selam alaykum.

I read Turkish history again and again. It writes we ruled arabs.

but results show they ruled us. 

hey you fool persians arent you that we arab ruled for almost 700 years ,in lessthan 6 years.........

you were our slaves for all that peirod and how you dare to make these false theory about salman al farsi who we muslim and arab considere him as great moslem man.

i know some persian guys and nobody talk about salman al farsi that bad.

mayby because they are in arab country and they are  so chicken sh*t totalk about something like this.i dont care about shi and sunnie things beside that im sunniets.this forum not for racist things about arian and arabs and turks. 

finaly let the iranian go to hell with aryan mythologies,i respest european so much specialy germans because germans are warlikes and militrist not like you persian that we make you our slaves 4 seven centuries.

Erwin Rommel ever read the forum rules?

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