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An Unknown Live Language

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Topic: An Unknown Live Language
Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Subject: An Unknown Live Language
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 04:40

Persian site: http://www.chn.ir/shownews.asp?no=21200 - http://www.chn.ir/shownews.asp?no=21200

It says in Darreh-Shahr region of Elam province in Iran, there are still some people of three villages who live in the caves like ancient cavemen, the ethnicity and language of these people are still unkown and no one knows how long they are living in this region, apparently their costume (especially about women) which is made with the skin of the hunted animals, has become a big problem for Mullahs, so they are being forced to leave their caves and live in the cities and villages!



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Posted By: Feramez
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 11:12
 Damn, they've obviously been there for thousands of years.  Now they're forced to leave their home and lifestyle.  I don't know how I'd take that.


Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 26-May-2005 at 19:48
What do they look like? I have read some nonsense on pro African sites that Elamites and other advanced pre IE Iranians were black.

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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 27-May-2005 at 02:34
I don't know but I don't think that that they are black!

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Posted By: Alparslan
Date Posted: 27-May-2005 at 02:36

 

Picture please.

Do not believe in everything you read.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-May-2005 at 04:49
There live blacks in Iran? How, when, where??

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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 28-May-2005 at 11:55

Picture please.

Do not believe in everything you read.

I have no picture but it is certainly reliable because the source is Iranian Cultural Heritage News Agency.

There live blacks in Iran? How, when, where??

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1753 - African Villages in Iran



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Posted By: Kenaney
Date Posted: 28-May-2005 at 12:12
In Turkey you have the Kusköy, the villagers can talk Turkish but they also communicate with kind of whistle they make.

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Posted By: Jazz
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 01:34
Just curious how many people in total we are talking about...

I'll assume that these natives have no pronounced religion - or is that incorrect?


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Posted By: Feramez
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 03:08

Originally posted by Kenaney

In Turkey you have the Kusköy, the villagers can talk Turkish but they also communicate with kind of whistle they make.

I know Turkish geography and history pretty well, but I never heard of the Kusköy.  I'd appreciate it if you explain a little bit about them for me, thanks.



Posted By: AyKurt
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 07:24
I dont know if you watch this program on TRT called Gezelim Gorelim?  A while back they showed that village.  It was amazing, they could communicate by whistling not just simple instructions but also have conversations by whistling.  I cant remember exactly what province of Turkey but im sure it was the North East somewhere.  

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Posted By: AyKurt
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 07:40

A quick google search produced these results

http://www.ling.ed.ac.uk/linguist/issues/12/12-419.html - http://www.ling.ed.ac.uk/linguist/issues/12/12-419.html

http://www.trivia-library.com/a/history-and-information-on-languages-and-linguistics-part-2.htm - http://www.trivia-library.com/a/history-and-information-on-l anguages-and-linguistics-part-2.htm

Apparently 80 miles southwest of Trabzon



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Posted By: Feramez
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 20:20
Thanks, I'm going to look into this.


Posted By: BirTane
Date Posted: 30-May-2005 at 05:37
In Greece there are villages that were using whistles for communicating...a complete language.....i didnt know it, i watched an english documentary few weeks ago. They used it for communicating between without the enemy understand them. I dont know if the new generations still use this "language"


Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 30-May-2005 at 06:12

Some pics of Darreh Shahr (Valley City) in Elam:


Ancient Elamite city of Madaktu


An ancient castle


Ancient Bridge of Gavmishan



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Posted By: ramin
Date Posted: 30-May-2005 at 11:42
that looks beautiful
the first photo reminded me of machu picchu


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