I often wonder if the Gov. isn't playing semantics with us.  If they know exactly what it is and where it came from, then it wouldn't be unidentified.  What I can tell you, is that the object we chased several times and flew right over us was no natural occurance.

 

 

I once saw an object in Central West Texas that turned out to be an F117 flying at night observing my unit conducting training operations. Because the bird was highly classified yet.... we had no idea what the frack it was...it was there moving nearly silently and then gone.

 

Couple weeks later I was shown some camera tape by my Ops Officer... showing me and 7 other guys walking across the high plateau in a an excellent V formation. Supposedly to go make contact with a 'pretended' downed Apache pilot. That was the training mission. An SAR ops.

 

When I asked him who the frock shot the tape he replied with a laugh....USAF assets on high...giving us cover. Iow..it was a joint training ops that we had no foreknowledge of. Had no need to know etc...

 

The problem is not that UFOs exist..by definition..for they do.

 

And that many can be explained away as a result of extant knowledge and experience and technology.. for they can.

 

But when there is no rational explanation and or basis to draw a C/C to the aforementioned....it is not the observer who doubts generally.

 

It is Science at large.

 

Who convienently, has no immediate or subsequent answer necessarily either.

 

And yet.. all to often merely scoffs at the implausibility of a sighting, rather then do what they have been allegedly taught to do...which is investigate and maintain their scientific objectivity.

 

And they really hate it when the veracity and experience of a witness lends credibility to the occurrence of observation. Because that individual/s, for example, has been trained to be an excellent observer of his/her whereabouts and ongoing conditions and surroundings, topography, weather, and critical conditions that might effect mission performance and objectives accomplishment.

 

Don't believe me? Then go out on to the desert floor with no moon, in blackout drive conditions and conduct a  ground mounted zone recon or movement to contact. Or fly at 600 feet and do it. Even with night vision and thermals this is no easy task. Now compound it with a threat of unknown objects/aircraft flying overhead. Objects/Aircraft virtually silent or silent...lit up or not and with no previous experience basis from which to id them.

 

As a former qualified aerial and ground observer and scout..with 20 plus years of uniformed experience....when I tell ya that what I have seen was unknown and flying that's what I mean. Doesn't mean it's an ET.....but it don't mean it is not one either.

 

''Here endeth the lesson.''

 

http://www.realufos.net/ - http://www.realufos.net/

Ha ha ha, medenaywe, send me a copy of the application and I'll give it a look. 

 

UFO equals unidentified-flying-object.

 

 

Nick, without a doubt, the military or whoever, used the UFO phenom. as a cover for X craft over the years.  But not all sightings fit that slot.  You asked what the craft I saw looked like.  It was small, disc. shaped.  It had the ability to hover and moved eratically.  When it became aware of small planes in the area it could accelarate and move in such a manner that if a human were in it that person would be squished against the inside of the craft.

Nick, this sighting happened in 1970, we still don't have a craft capable of moving like this did.

 

 

 

 

My mother claims to have seen one in the early 70s, she was 16 at the time. It came quite close, hovering over the garden of her uncle's house. She says it lit up the whole neighborhood with its bright red light.

 

Sure! but not ours.

 

Nick, my dad was with me the first time we spotted it.  He was a trained AAA gunnery director in WW2.  He was the one that figured out that it was a small object close, and not vice versa.  Aside from that, he was also involved in several top secret research projects that gave him a very good idea as to what we were capable of at that time.  Two other things, If it was something of ours, why would McGuire Air Base scramble fighters?  2nd, once over the orchard it had no place to go, except for the river.  I'm pretty sure we don't have a submersible aircraft, then or now.

 

 

 

http://www.echoesofenoch.org/washingtons_vision.htm - http://www.echoesofenoch.org/washingtons_vision.htm

 

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread649130/pg1 - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread649130/pg1

 

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/report-concerning-unidentified-flying-object-communicated-thomas-jefferson - http://www.ufodigest.com/article/report-concerning-unidentified-flying-object-communicated-thomas-jefferson

How was something like this propelled in the air?

Note the vehicle description (in Lunex) and the difference in time between that and what becomes a shuttle.

 

See also: http://worldofweirdthings.com/2009/10/28/the-secret-moon-plans-of-the-cold-war/ - http://worldofweirdthings.com/2009/10/28/the-secret-moon-plans-of-the-cold-war/

 

http://www.checktheevidence.com/Disclosure/Web%20Pages/Shootin%20for%20the%20moon%20%20The%20Bulletin%20of%20the%20Atomic%20Scientists%20richelson%20%28Converted%29.htm - http://www.checktheevidence.com/Disclosure/Web%20Pages/Shootin'%20for%20the%20moon%20%20The%20Bulletin%20of%20the%20Atomic%20Scientists%20richelson%20(Converted).htm

 

If that link doesn't open go find Shootin' for the Moon by Jeffery T. Richelson, in the archives of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.   http://www.thebulletin.org/ - http://www.thebulletin.org/

 

Yep just amazing what yer ole Unkie Centrix peruses eh......