"Ski" name ending / Poland
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Topic: "Ski" name ending / Poland
Posted By: Cryptic
Subject: "Ski" name ending / Poland
Date Posted: 06-Apr-2011 at 14:03
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To what extent does having the name "Ski" or (Sky) indicate Polish descent? The ending seems very common in Poland. I think it means "of a particular place" in origin.
Then there are others who have it as well. Some, like Soviet General Rokosssovsky, were of Polish back ground. But what about others, like the infamous Kaminski whose mercenaries committed atrocities in Warsaw? He was Belo-Russian or Russian. In addition to other German officers and men in WWII, the German commander (General Bach-Zelewski) during the Warsaw uprising had the "Ski" name ending as well. Was he of Polish background? In addition, some Ukrainians have the ending (Khmelnytsky Cossack rebellion). I have also seen Macedonians with "Ski" endings.
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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 06-Apr-2011 at 14:14
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Translated literary it means:Cryptic's...Way to express genitive in Macedonian,Polish etc...Belong to Cryptic, (Origin from Criptic)his son or daughter...or wife... |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 06-Apr-2011 at 15:48
| Ski is also a common Russian name denoting that the individual is male (sisters and daughters are ska). Example: Kowalski and Kowalska. Ov or Ev indicate that the person came from a noble family (Romanov) and Vitch means son of (Sergeyvitch) |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 06-Apr-2011 at 15:57
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yes Nick "slavic" second names have both of them."ski" for male,"ska" for female...in Polish "ski" for both. "ov" for male,"ova" for female... |
Posted By: Cryptic
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2011 at 13:53
| Thanks for the information |
Posted By: Galleon
Date Posted: 12-Apr-2011 at 18:54
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Adjectival names very often end in the suffixes -ski, -cki and -dzki (feminine -ska, -cka and -dzka), and are considered to be either typically Polish or typical for the Polish nobility. However, this is not exactly true, exactly as in France or Germany where not all people with a de or von in their names were formally nobles: the adjectival suffix -ski, -skii or -sky is found in many other /wiki/Slavic_languages - Slavic languages , and in Poland, the adjectival form of a name was not reserved to the szlachta. Based on origin, Polish family names may be generally divided into three groups: cognominal, toponymic and patronymic. A http://cognominal%20surname%20 - cognominal surname (nazwisko przezwiskowe) derives from a person's nickname, usually based on his occupation, or a physical or character trait. From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_name - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_name
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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 13-Apr-2011 at 02:16
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one suffix means,obedient or humble,as Minov means Mino obedient.Other "now who ...is"..I believe that second one is interrogative form.Kowallski?Who is now Kowall? Galleon question for you:Kowalskaya also exists in Polish? |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 13-Apr-2011 at 10:28
A blacksmith |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 13-Apr-2011 at 14:05
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You misunderstand me:Kowalski exist but form Kowalskaya...skaya sufix? |
Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2011 at 09:15
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As I said in http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=564 - this thread about what Scythia means, Scythia, Parthia, Persia, ... could mean section, part, piece, ... in the Indo-European languages, Persians in fact called themselves Pars Aryan which means part of Aryan nation, it seems to be possible that ski also means part or family of Slavic people. ------------- 
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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2011 at 14:18
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yes Cyrus but as rest of history Persia just have stolen most of ancient history till today!History was written by victorious!Now i know that second names of "slaves" have forms consisted by exact sounds with precise meaning!-skaya, now also(as) present!How do i know?!?  Regards.(Sorry that i suppose Greece as one ofancestors of Persian civilization.) |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 22-Apr-2011 at 03:25
I believe that suffix depended from status of person that carried it.Slave or citizen!
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Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 19-May-2011 at 08:55
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In Polish the male form is: Kowalski, female form: Kowalska, Kowalskaya is female form of this surname in Russian ------------- "I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche |
Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 02-Jun-2011 at 08:40
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I have always considered "ski" or "sky", to be similar to "Mc" or "Mac", I.e. meaning "Son of?", or possibly "Child of?", at least in the earliest times when family names became necessary for census takers, tax collectors, etc.
It seems that some Eastern European languages, also denoted the strictly delinated terms of "son"= "ski/sky" and the female "skaya", etc. This is similar to the Norse, who also incorporated the feminine ending into both male and female versions, such as "Larson/Larsen" as well as "Larsdaughter", etc. But, perhaps I am wrong? Regards, ------------- http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/history/ |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 02-Jun-2011 at 11:43
It is similar with that.Here is essential the first one,root member of whole family tree,than follow sounds and words that have also meaning.Our Ape ancestor started his speaking with sounds that were words.Than he put among consonants,vocals cause of detection and correction of errors!?!After had come syllables,that had been made by 2&3 sounds!When he had wasted them,started combinatorics.Words in usage today,were than sentences!Small advanced curse of ancient language! P.S.Of course all that was upon life experiences,rather than from ancient linguistic university.  During theEgypt,could have been interventions on language?!?Different groups all around Med sea,separated among themselves,practiced maybe different rules?!?Same were only syllables and their meaning!?! |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 30-Dec-2011 at 03:35
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"Ski"=present(presence) value,"Ska"=present(presence) feature,"V"=obedient,humble,are final and exact meanings.Differences are obvious:First one speaks about free person,second one about slave&serf&poor. "SKaYa"=present(presence)feature mortal. Kowalskaya:From Kowal presence,features mortality!(Kowalskaja) example: (from)Kowal's presence,values=Kowal-ski! From Kowal presence,features=Kowalska! Kowalov=From Kowal obedience! Kowalova=From Kowal slavery! That's all folks!No more edit here! |
Posted By: tjadams
Date Posted: 30-Dec-2011 at 15:58
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There it is: learning something new. I never would have thought to analyse the 'ski' name ending.
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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 30-Dec-2011 at 20:28
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What is the meaning of Dziembowski? This was the surname of my great-great grandmother ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 31-Dec-2011 at 02:54
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Latin letters changed phonetics inside the words Nick.Syllables were first and a lot of voices had been lost now cause of Latin alphabet .In "slavic" languages we call them "Africati"(they "came" from Africa. In first language people used voices for words!All of them have had exact meaning.Than had combined them with vocals to receive more combinations for events&objects&images&thoughts inside outside of them.After that they invented grammar rules:if they stayed our language and our mathematics will be the same.People that had built the pyramids were ingenious.Precision and logic were basis in their world. Here are some of them: http://www.asusilc.net/scr101/les1/s1glas.htm - http://www.asusilc.net/scr101/les1/s1glas.htm Here you have all "African" voices: http://www.omniglot.com/writing/macedonian.htm - http://www.omniglot.com/writing/macedonian.htm and here is Coptic alphabet:(compare it!) http://www.omniglot.com/writing/coptic.htm - http://www.omniglot.com/writing/coptic.htm |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2012 at 01:06
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In my analysis of syllables I found that Ki=volume but KiI=shape&form so:'MiNoSKi means=From MiNo presents shape&form!It is more logical even if with short Ki=From Mino presents volume,has logical meaning also.Ki=volume/zafatnina and KiI=shape&form/oblik&forma. "'" is in front of it! Every pronounce of our surnames is prising of predecessor of ours!Here they still say:He&She torn his father's&mother's faces! Minov=Tranquil attention obeys!It speaks about characteristic feature of person that describe . More syllables i found more precise meanings are. |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2012 at 19:55
What are you saying Medenaywe? That the first Slavs were black?  ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 20-Sep-2012 at 00:25
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No they use languages (with sounds/letters)close to ancient Egyptian Nick!Maybe Pharaohs use them as "colored" citizens there(brick colored pharaohs!).You know my positions about "brick" color of pharaoh people:this is color of earth and it is religious sign!In the same time pictures shows us variety of colors near the "brick" color people. Black color people are also there.Yellow color people and others also.But that is out of this topic story! |
Posted By: heyamigos
Date Posted: 20-Sep-2012 at 03:04
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Russians are the only Slavs to use the female version with their names "skaya" |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 20-Sep-2012 at 04:11
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This is valuable data for me.Original meaning of syllables&words(sentences once) preserves their meaning as far they are from ex. Rome&Byzantine territories.ex.Minoskaya=orig."'MiNo-SKaYa=From Mino presents characteristic mortality"!(Child&Son&Daughter)"SKi" or possible "SKiI" forms have more honor in them.It tells us how Russian land was populated,using slaves&serfs maybe!"Carpathian mountains" story is Boogey man story for potentional serfs&slaves if they did not obey hierarchy of their masters!Now they send them in overseas lands:America&Australia&Europe....Those are main power for economy of our land today!Vampires&X-men&Aliens are here people!They transform themselves they are transformers also! 
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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 20-Sep-2012 at 20:02
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I'm confused. Where do vampires and aliens fit in?
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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 21-Sep-2012 at 01:12
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It's a joke or reality depends of mental state of mind.Ancient Egyptian use "Slavic" syllables also.Latin "evolved" from Demotic.Cases from Demotic were copied&pasted in Latin also.You can not invent language as Esperanto from nowhere Nick:Esperanto borrows words&outlines from other languages also.I suppose a lot of languages those days use similar outlines and syllables.Residuals are all over.I really miss participation of China&Arab&Greek&Other language users for comparative analysis. |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 26-Sep-2012 at 03:25
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'Your predecessor name+SKi/SKii=presents volume/space(Land/property)&Shape/Form(You look on your predecessor)!'=From,voiceless sound in "Slavic" languages comes from Ancient Egyptian,Nadenay(y=j)ve Zi,language! ex.BoRiSoV=Spiritual resurrection in-houses obedience,was your ancestors name.:'Borisov+SKi/SKiI=From Borisov presents volume(land/space) or presents shape&form!It torn his face from him as they say here!Now we have all about SKI!Enjoy people! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 28-Sep-2012 at 20:17
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If ski means the same as Mac or Mc, it just one other thing the Poles have in common with the Irish. Coincidence, or something deeper?
------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 29-Sep-2012 at 02:35
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England was seeded with Poland citizens in the last few centuries.Nazi secret service hided fact that you can not found German family without Polish blood inside:Myth about Aryan blood would have to fall apart. |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 29-Sep-2012 at 02:49
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Now Give me Your surname will try the best with guessing of course:Have to make audio signal and to upload it here! MaC/MaK/MeK=Supportive equality/Creative equality?!?!Give me slang forms if you can! McDonald's=Supportive(Mak)&Creative(Mek)equality of Donald!It looks logical cause for parent all his&her children are the same(and they are their creation,their internal answer). (It sounds "A" more than "E" as it looks similar as first syllable of MaIKa...MeK here is soft). |
Posted By: heyamigos
Date Posted: 01-Oct-2012 at 06:22
| Not only Slavic people have 'ski' ending names. Quite a lot of Germans have it too. I think many Germans and Austrians (Hungarians too) have assimilated Polish and Czech in the past. |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 01-Oct-2012 at 07:54
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Russian "SKaYa(Ja)" PeTRoV=Rocky dream roots obedience,Name speaks about believer in Cristian religion! How do you call all members of family from Petrov: 'Petrov-S-Ka-Ya(Ja)=From Petrov presents characteristic mortality!There are not dignity in those words Hayamigos!You can see here how did those people pass over Carpathian mountains." ' " is voiceless but loudly spoken as you are reminded&surprised about origin of person.Hhhhhh=" ' " ' Petrovski=From Petrov presents volume/space(property,land) ' Petrovskii=From petrov presents shape/form(He&She looks/behaves as Petrov) After 2000 years of Roman Empire(East&West Empires) states residuals have had one main project:How to preserve order&how to create perfect(obedient) citizen(slave)!They did it. |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2012 at 07:42
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I understand what you're saying Medenaywe: last names were introduced to remind people of their place in the hierarchy, for example, Mr Smith came from a family of blacksmiths
------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: tzar
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2012 at 13:31
You just shocked me! My family name has suffix ~ov and according to this my ancestors considered them self as slaves? Then what about names that over with ~ev. In Bulgaria the family names from Macedonia have suffix ~ski, but from other regions Thrace and Moesia ~ov and ev
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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2012 at 14:09
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Tzar those are my old trials.Check newest.Basic form with "V" describes main character feature of your predecessor.Than ski/skii/skaya describe you as ancestor of land&property and the rest.Worst case is mortality. Give me your surname here!Can make a trial! Mine is:MiNoV=Tranquil attention obeys!It is characteristic of my root ancestor!With pronunciation of his name you speak about his family characteristics.After that came if this one own/not own something also looks as predecessor of himself. You show respect with it or disrespect(underestimating in case of skaya).Both ski/skii are polite&decent . '(voiceless Slavic sound but loud as you are surprised)'Minov-SKi=if you honored me with my land and property/Skii with similarities with my parents In the beginning I believe that V=obey is said in bad context but our character features really obeys us all!All the rest is respect&hypocrisy we see around us in Balkans every day! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 13-Oct-2012 at 08:58
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In Poland they don't have the letter V. Instead, they spell words with a W
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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 13-Oct-2012 at 10:00
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Yes V pass in W not only in Poland,all western world use it as W!With guessing will return it back.WaTeR= Water=Va/VoTeR=Enslaved/Herd-like prediction sprouts!Cotys or Cybele predicts from water plate?!?New alphabets were invented&voices distorted all around...I really need a voices of other languages here. |
Posted By: tzar
Date Posted: 20-Oct-2012 at 14:47
mine is Shikov ------------- Everybody listen only this which understands. |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 20-Oct-2012 at 15:08
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ShiKoV=Petrify/Immobile circle obeys!???Have no idea what does it means,really? Shi we have in Shina=...offer,Shinata,Shinka=petrified mother/'s characterizes!It is connected with pharaohs cause sarcophagus is Nashicee as lot of towns in Balkans.NaShiCee=offer to petrified from Gold!Tracians have circular golden masks(similar with other Danayans tribes on Balkan,maybe it is connected with it?!?).Do you have some idea about your ancestors jobs? |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2012 at 11:20
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We miss the main:Volume&Greatness/Volume&Great/Volumes=Ki SKi=presents Greatness!It is close to Highness! 'MiNoSKi=From Mino presents Greatness! Lord of the Rings. |
Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 04-Jun-2013 at 16:17
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The ending of surname "ski" was common in Poland and typical for 2 classes of the society. One were the nobles and second were the Jews. EG - Overmentioned surname Dziembowski - means that the person came from the noble familly which owned the village named Dziembowo. But if someone is named Poznański (from the city of Poznan/Posen) or Warszawski (from Warszawa/Warsaw) it means that it is a Jew coming from this big city, not its owner. ------------- "I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche |
Posted By: beorna
Date Posted: 10-Jun-2013 at 02:51
| It the Polish form of a typical indo-european ending, like the latin -iscus. |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2013 at 20:44
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Mosquito, what about the surname Poloncasz? I'm guessing it means "from Poland"
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Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 21-Jun-2013 at 21:37
Iv never heard such about such surname. There is surname "Poloncarz". It doesnt mean anything in Polish, sounds even foreign. ------------- "I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 24-Jun-2013 at 18:35
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I thought it might have been derived from Polonia: perhaps a Pole living in an area with a German, Austrian or Russian majority?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Nov-2013 at 12:08
| Can anyone explain the meaning of the name "Lozinski"? |
Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 26-Nov-2013 at 23:25
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A Russian or a Polish name. "Loza" in Russian means a grapevine. ------------- |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 27-Nov-2013 at 01:35
Drawn&Cut speech(Zi)&sign-letter(Zii) is realized by&with&in Lozin.
'Lozin-ski=From Lozin presents space&volume&Greatness(ki)-Form&Shape(kii).
LoZa=drawn gossip&expression
LooiZe=loize,Macedonian(archaic)=grapevine yard=Leaf prayer
" ' "-nasal sound similar with " b" in "Slavic" languages,long and loud,you praise the name you speak.
Drawn=vrezhan,Don can help here!Regards. |