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Connection Between Easter Island & Indus Scripts

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Topic: Connection Between Easter Island & Indus Scripts
Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Subject: Connection Between Easter Island & Indus Scripts
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 02:27
Isthere a connection between Indus & Easter Island scripts

http://easterislandscript.blogspot.com/ - http://easterislandscript.blogspot.com/



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Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 02:29

Kindly go to the page six to see the similarity of Indus & easter Island scripts


http://www.omilosmeleton.gr/pdf/en/indology/A_Dravido-Harappan_connection.pdf - http://www.omilosmeleton.gr/pdf/en/indology/A_Dravido-Harappan_connection.pdf


Posted By: balochii
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 02:44
only according to tamil Vilayanur Subramanian "Rama" Ramachandran. who has nothing to do with indus valley to begin with


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 04:02

What has the Indologists,Srchaeologists & linguists like Max mueller,,Ralph.T.H.Griffith ,Prof.Micheal witzel,Albrecht Weber,Nicholas Kazanas , John Marshall ,J.M.Kenoyer to do with Indus valley..?

Their rep[orts are considered to be the most authentic about Indus valley



Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 04:03
The second post is a write up by Prof.Michel Danino.
Who had given several comparisons of Indus valley scripts with Elamite,Dravidian & Easter Island scripts. 


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 04:53
Majority of the Archaeologists , Indologists  & Linguists who had wrote and researched about Indus valley are from Europe and USA and they too doesnt have anything to do with Indus valley other than studying it.


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 05:37
About Easter Island & Rongo rongo

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/eastern_island/easter03.htm - http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/eastern_island/easter03.htm


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 05:41








Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 05:42
Asko Parpola's rongorongo decipherment




Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 05:44
Similarity of Idus Script & Easter Island script(rongorongo)




Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 05:48
Indus & Easterisland script




Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 05:49
 History of writing

Comparative study of signages used by different civilizations

http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/325oldbooks.php - http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/325oldbooks.php


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 05:54
About Rongorongo

http://serrano.ai.uiuc.edu/LSA07/rongorongo.html - http://serrano.ai.uiuc.edu/LSA07/rongorongo.html


Posted By: balochii
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2010 at 14:38
Originally posted by ranjithvnambiar


What has the Indologists,Srchaeologists & linguists like Max mueller,,Ralph.T.H.Griffith ,Prof.Micheal witzel,Albrecht Weber,Nicholas Kazanas , John Marshall ,J.M.Kenoyer to do with Indus valley..?

Their rep[orts are considered to be the most authentic about Indus valley

 
 
The difference is that European scholars are not bias, a tamil or south indian scholar will always try to connect south india with indus valley civilization, because they are convinced that indus valley was dravdian


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2010 at 23:25
Originally posted by balochii

Originally posted by ranjithvnambiar


What has the Indologists,Srchaeologists & linguists like Max mueller,,Ralph.T.H.Griffith ,Prof.Micheal witzel,Albrecht Weber,Nicholas Kazanas , John Marshall ,J.M.Kenoyer to do with Indus valley..?

Their rep[orts are considered to be the most authentic about Indus valley

 
 
The difference is that European scholars are not bias, a tamil or south indian scholar will always try to connect south india with indus valley civilization, because they are convinced that indus valley was dravdian

I have in my earlier posts in other treads clearly mentioned that Indus valley civilization was not dravidian but had interactions with dravidian civilization.
Dravidian today is only a language family ie South Indian language family.
Agnicayana and other vedic Rituals were introduced to South by Brahmins and Kshatriyas who migrated to South India from gangetic plains.
Nambudiris and Nairs are known to have migrated to south from Ahikshetra(presently Ahichatra) of Uttar pradesh.
Nambudiris are Sroutha Brahmins whio strictly follow Vedic Religion and their is the oldest type of "oral tradition" ever known.
And that is why Indologists are coming to south India for seeing vedic Rituals.
700 years of muslim rule in North India has destroyed the vedic tradition of north India.And now Agnihotris & vaideki brahmins of Andhra and Nambudiris and some other brahmin clans of South only practices vedic rituals.


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 20-Sep-2010 at 03:52
Originally posted by balochii

 
 
The difference is that European scholars are not bias, a tamil or south indian scholar will always try to connect south india with indus valley civilization, because they are convinced that indus valley was dravdian

Your statement that European scholars being not biased is not right.There are many who are biased.
And your concept about South Indian scholars is also wrong.I have no biase towards anything and have never claimed that Indus valley is dravidian.
They may be direct ancestors of people of Northwest India and pakistan.But their culture and religion now exists only in India.
And many branches of Indus saraswati valley people due to natural calamities and other reasons had migrated to gangetic plains and different parts of East & South India spreading the culture and religion from very early ages.

Tamil Scholars like Iravatham mahadevan who is a very strong proponant of Aryan Invasion is claiming the Indus saraswati Valley civilization to be dravidian and He & "Asko Parpola" had also put forth a dravidian decipherment of Indus valley scripts.

They say that Harappan wasa dravidian civilization and the blue eyed white skinned horse riding Aryans came from central Asia/Germany/Greece/Russia and destroyed all the harappan cities and conquered it resulting in the southward migration of dravidian speaking people.
This theory is not justified by even the earliest tamil literature.Genetis and Archaeology also is against such a theory.Genetical studies had proved consistancy in the skull(cranium) sizes of indus valley remains from a perion from 7000BC till 600BC showing no signs of an invasion or a genetical distortion or racial mixing.
To claim the Indus valley ancestry you dont need to justify the false theory of Aryan Invasion.

Harappan civilization was a very large civilization which spreaded on a very large land scape.The Rakhigarhi site is only a 100km from Delhi.ie Yamuna is only 100km away from this site Ganges(Meerut) is only 35 km North East of Delhi ie 135 Km or even closer to Rakhigarhi.There are many new arxchaeological sites excavated on the banks of ganges at different locations in Uttarpradesh and they have shown homogenity in utensils ,art & crafts and culture with that of Indus-saraswati valley.The archaeological sites of Jhusi and Lohardewa were of farming communities and were dated bck to 7100BC by well known archaeologists.
The first sites of the civilization to be uncovered were Moenjodaro & Harappa. Only time will tell the real span and impact of the civilization.



Posted By: balochii
Date Posted: 20-Sep-2010 at 12:06

^ but why are you so sure they were hindus??? there is no proof of it. I mean they might have a similar idol worshipping religion but that doesn't mean they were hindus just like today.



Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 20-Sep-2010 at 23:15
Originally posted by balochii

^ but why are you so sure they were hindus??? there is no proof of it. I mean they might have a similar idol worshipping religion but that doesn't mean they were hindus just like today.


Proofs ...? proofs are plenty that too attested by archaeologists,Pashupati.Lakshmi idol,fire altars and many.. And those just mean they were following Vedic religion like us Hindus..,even if you disagree.



Posted By: balochii
Date Posted: 21-Sep-2010 at 00:51
^ thats what hindu nationlistic people say, rest of the world disagrees, idol,fire altars were almost part of every culture on this earth. Thats no proof


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 27-Sep-2010 at 03:12
Originally posted by balochii

^ thats what hindu nationlistic people say, rest of the world disagrees, idol,fire altars were almost part of every culture on this earth. Thats no proof

Will you provide some proof & photo graphs for the same... ie of other civilizations
For Idols  similar to that of harappan shivalinga,proto shiva,fertility goddess dating back to 3000BC and fire altars with kiln fired bricks placed in 5 layers in different patterns dating back to 2900BC..


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 27-Sep-2010 at 03:21
And for your  information these fire altars of which I have posted photographs earlier were attestedby all leading archaeologists.

The Pashupati idol along with shivalinga & other idols were discovered by sir John Marshall a British Archaeologist during his tenure as Director of Archaeological survey of India from 1902 -1928 and it was attested by all leading archaeologists of his time.This happened before the formation of present day India & Pakistan.


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 05-Oct-2010 at 09:54
Originally posted by balochii

^ but why are you so sure they were hindus??? there is no proof of it. I mean they might have a similar idol worshipping religion but that doesn't mean they were hindus just like today.


Can you name a religion other than Hindus who worships Shiva Linga and Pashupati and performs fire riuals in vedis(altars) similar to those found out in Indus Saraswati valley..


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 05-Oct-2010 at 11:36
I'm going to fire up this discussion with a few "possibles" and some "what ifs".  First though, I have to caution Balochii.  The topic is "Connections with the Indus Valley Script and Rongo Rongo from Easter Island".  Nothing else. Okay? No anti Hindu bias.
 
There is a group of linguists and Archeologists who have been working with a script they have been calling "First Tongue".  They have found many inscriptions in 5 continents from Yemen to North America that conform with both Indus Valley and Rongo Rongo. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.Cool
 
http://www.viewzone2.com/expo2002.html - http://www.viewzone2.com/expo2002.html      This a link to the whole article.  Following is a link to the Translator.
 
http://www.viewzone2.com/negev/z.html - http://www.viewzone2.com/negev/z.html
 
The first examples of this script were found in the Negev Desert, hence it's designation as "Old Negev".
 
Balochii, I don't understand your problem with the Hindu religion.  It's quite possibly the oldest organized religion on the planet.  Get used to it.  Study it, it might well have all your answers.  At the same time you might well get used to the idea that Civilization on our little rock is a hell of a lot older than what we have previously thought.
 
 
 
 


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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: balochii
Date Posted: 05-Oct-2010 at 11:40
^ i have no problem with hindu religion, i just have problems with hindu nationalistic forcing their view on others.


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 05-Oct-2010 at 11:53
Originally posted by balochii

^ i have no problem with hindu religion, i just have problems with hindu nationalistic forcing their view on others.
 
 
I don't see anyone forcing anybody to do or believe anything here.  I certainly don't see anything remotely viewable as "Hindu Nationalism".  He is relating history as he knows it.  Either through teachings or observation.  No different than you.  If you can over-ride your bias, you might be surprised at what you find.
 
 
 
 


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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: balochii
Date Posted: 05-Oct-2010 at 12:12

^ i have debating with hindu nationlistics for a long time, i am from pakistan afterall. i am not really talking about ranjith, but most hindu nationlistics have really wild theories, they think they ruled pretty much all the world just like afro-centric people. I agree that ranjith is probably not like that but i know which school of taught he is coming from, just look at all his postings. All i am saying is that they have to be open minded, i am open minded and i open to say ( i can be wrong) but their universe is just running around india, every thing is india or hinduism to them.



Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 05-Oct-2010 at 23:29
Balochi I dont have a hindu centric mind.The society which I live in is a multicultural society.We are taught to respect all religions in India and festival days of all religions ie ,Diwali,Dussera,Bisakhi,Ramzan,Ganesh chathurthi,Bakrid,Christmas,Easter,Buddha Purnima all are national holidays.

To my knowledge I havent posted any wild theories on this forum.If you feel my posts are wild then prove them wrong  ie provide proofs against my posts, instead of claiming them to be wrong and calling names.... thats it


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2010 at 02:42

Indus & Earter Island script by Stephanie Benson

http://www.damninteresting.com/the-other-mystery-of-easter-island - http://www.damninteresting.com/the-other-mystery-of-easter-island


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2010 at 02:49
If the easter Island scripts are deciphered with the help of the Rapanui people it may be a breakthrough and may help in the decipherment of Indus script also....


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2010 at 07:42

I had a brief run through of the links of the first tongue and its decipherment.
The decipherment seems to be effective. For the betterunderstanding of other viewers I am posting it here



Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2010 at 07:44

The script, line by line, has been transposed to left to right for easier understanding. Following Southern Arabic phonetics, we have changed the lameds to word spaces, the [BN] to Z (zayen or tsadeh sound), the chet same as kaf, the gimmels to lameds, the [BL] to silent vowels).

ZVaZL -- BN -- LDYATt -- CRVYN -- KCR -- MANM -- BTMNA -- VMANM -- BKL -- TM

NA -- BNYV -- VALY -- VaDDT -- QBRHMV -- ZRBN -- BN -- SRaM -- AD -- PRAN

GM -- BD? -- ZNBY -- VZL -- TALY -- ZALMM -- CZLVMM -- VCYMM -- CKYL -- ?

VZVaN -- CBRQM -- VVPDM -- CDCKT -- VYHRZL -- CzVAN -- VSHRM

CASTR -- VHVKN -- CMCYM -- TQDMV -- MHLK -- VMBNY -- QBRNLzRBN

....M....ZNBY....V....RDM -- RDZV....

Translation

...ZVa(tsevah=army) ZL(tsel=shade,protect) BN(iBN=son/prophet) LDY(la'ad=forever) 
AT(at- prefix=under-) t(ta=box/cell) CR('acar=ugliness) V(and) YN(o'yen=hostility)
KCR(afterwards) MA(aMa=mother/nation) NM(nam=spoke) BTM(ba- =to the/abouttam=the end aMa=the nation) 
NA(na'=prayed) V(and) MA(aMa=the mother) NM(nam=spoke) 
BKL(ba-=in the/about kalah =finished/expired) TM(tam=end/eventuality)...

...the army to protect the son's underground chamber forever but afterwards there was ugliness and hostility and the mother spoke about the end. The nation prayed. The mother spoke about the final eventuality... ---

NA (na'=to pray) BN (to know) YV (yo'vo=enemy) V (and/but) ALY (overhead) 
VaD (ved=to make sure) DT (at the appropriate time) Q (EL=the lord) BR (chosen, worthy)
H (the) ZR (tsar=unfortunate) BN (prophecy) BN (understood) SR (trouble) 
aM (aMa=mother's) AD ('ad=forever) PRAM (par'am=ripped apart/torn)

... pray to foresee the enemy overhead and be sure that, at the appropriate time, the unfortunate prophecy that ripped the the mother/nation apart forever is understood... ---

GM(gam=also) BD? (unreadable) ZN(tson=flock) BY(entreating) V(and/but)
ZL (tsel=shade,protect) TALY(depending on the...) ZaLM(tsalem=likeness of, similarity to) 
LMM(le'oomeem=people,nationality) Cz(cazeh=such as this is) LV(lav=not) MM(amamee=popular) V(and/but) CYM (kayam=existing, current) M(aMa=nation) 
CK(asak=dealt in/invested in) YL(yonee=nothing)

...also (unreadable) entreating the flock to protect depends on the similarity of the people/nation and this is not popular. The present nation/people invested nothing...

---

V(and/but) ZVa(tsavah=army) N('n=where is) CB(hidden) RQ(except to)
M(aMa=nation/mother) ??(untranslated) VV(hook of tabernacle curtain) P(poh=here) DM(blood) CD(kd=code)
C(this) KT(keet=infantry) V(but/and) YH(Yah) R(ra'=poorly)
ZL(tsel=protect) C(this) ZVa(tsaveh=army) N('n=where is) V(and/but) SH (shah=lingered)
RM (ra'am=to thunder) ...

...and it is hidden from the army, except from the mother. This infantry took here a 'blood oath' (literally text mentions VV which represents the hooks holding up the tabernacle and also a metaphore for a group holding up protection and secrecy to protect the Ark, and DM- blood CD- code) but they protected Yah poorly. Where is this army? And thunder lingered...

---

CAST(kashot=harshly) R(ra'=poorly) V(and/but) HV(to give) KN(thus far) 
CM(sam=nothing) C(thus) YN(ayeen=nothing) T(ta=box/cell) Q(EL=the lord)
D(to know) MV(movee=dwelling place) MH(mahee=what is it?) K(only) V(and/but)
M(aMa=the nation's/mother's) BNY(banay=builder/mason) QBRN(kabran=gravediggers) 
LZ(lets=joker/jester) BN(ibn=son/knowledge)

...harshly and poorly but thus far they gave nothing [gave no information] thus nothing was known of the whereabouts of the only dwelling place of the lord's box and the mother's building masons and gravediggers fooled [gave disinformation] their knowledge...

M(aMa=nation's/mother's)...ZN(tson=flock) BY(entreating/my)...V(and/but)...
...?R (unreadable) DM(blood/tears) RD(tremble) ZV(anger)...

---



Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2010 at 07:47



Here's the script, line by line, transposed to left to right for easier understanding. We have changed the lameds to word spaces, the [BN] to Z (zayen or tsadeh sound), the chet same as kaf, the gimmels to lameds, the [BL] to ayen (a vowel).

HVPOTt -- BN -- BNYM -- Z

PYSNDVRV -- HLRN -- SA

BM -- HQNYV -- TsLMQHV

BALTsVM -- TsL -- MN -- CC

HBN -- LVPYHMV -- VV

PY -- BRVHVKLBM -- BL

M -- aTLQB -- BN -- MRB -- VL

aADHMV -- NAMTM -- VMN

LT -- ZDQM

HV(hav:give to me) P(poh:here) AT(at-prefrix for under-) T(ta: box/chamber)
Give to me here the underground chamber...

BN(to comprehend) BN(prophecy) YM(AYM:frightening) 
...to understand the frightening prophecy...

ZP(zaaf:anger) YS(yas:despair) ND(noda:became known) RV(rov:the majority) V(and)
...the majority have known anger and despair...

HL(Hillel:Friday sunset before Sabbath) RN(ran:rejoice, sing!)
On Hillel evening - rejoice!

SABM(Saba+aMa:the nation of Saba) HQNYV(he:the)Q(El:Lord) NY(beautiful) V(and)
The beautiful Lord of the nation of Saba...

BALZVM (bal-:don't aZeeV:abandon,desert aMa:the nation)
Don't desert the nation!

ZLMQHV (tsel:protect aMa:nation El:The Lord's he:the vav:and
...protect the Lord's nation and...

ZLMN CC(tsel:protect ma'an:home kakh:thus)
Protect the home thus...

HBN (he:the BN:prophet) LVPYHMV (LV:if poh:here Yah:Yah mavo:introduce)
If the prophet is here, [he will] introduce Yah...

VV (Friday) PY (the 80th)
Friday, the 80th... possibly refers to a date.

BRVHVKLBM BLM(BR:choose VH:wish V:and K:only L:of BM:his own BL:bal-not aMa:the nation's)
...and will choose a wish of his own... not the nation's.

M (aMa:mother) aTLQB (at-:underground tel:mound El:the Lord's ba:to enter) BN(to understand) MRB (aMa:nation RB:teacher/master) VL(indeed)
The mother [will] enter under the mound to understand the nation's teacher/master indeed...

aADHMV ('edah:to witness(f) mova:introduction) NAMTM (NA:we pray AMT:the truth aMa:mother)
[She] will witness the introduction. We pray [it is] true, Mother

VMN (V:but AMN:belief/practice/craft) LT (is covered/veiled/hidden) ZDQM (ZaDok:the sacred esoteric priesthood)
...but the practice [ritual] is hidden [from] the sacred priesthood.

 



Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2010 at 07:53
Zodiacal Decipherment of Indus scripts




Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2010 at 07:55
Indus and Easter Island zodiacs compared




Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2010 at 07:59
Rongo rongo decipherment by Andis Kaulins



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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2010 at 08:33
As time goes on the cautionary advice I recieved from a very fine archeaologist who was one of my first instructors rings more true.  "Look carefully, be prudent, for all is not as it seems".  With recent discoveries of a sunken civilization under 90 meters of water in the Indian Ocean [which by the way is supported in the Vedic verses]  the possibility that the Indian civilization is the oldest surviving on the planet begins to have substance.
 
And for Balochii, there are more than a few authorities who believe that at one time, the Hindus may well have ruled the world, or more precisely the world as it was at the time.  There is so much we as yet, don't know. 
 


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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 09-Dec-2010 at 02:51
We saw from the earlier posts how Andis Kaulins deciphered rongorongo the Easter Island script.His Indo-European decipherment of rongorongo wassuccessful.Since Indus scripts are also similaror moreor less same as that of rongorongo they defnitely are Indo european.


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2010 at 08:19
Indu script decipherment

http://www.indusscript.com/decipher.html - http://www.indusscript.com/decipher.html

http://www.indusscript.com/ - http://www.indusscript.com/

http://www.indusscript.com/sarasvati.html - http://www.indusscript.com/sarasvati.html


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 15-Dec-2010 at 08:36
What Indus seals say

http://archaeologyindia.com/KrishnaandtheUnicornoftheIndusSeals.asp - http://archaeologyindia.com/KrishnaandtheUnicornoftheIndusSeals.asp


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:08
Excerpts from Dr.S.Kalyanaraman's book Indus Script Cipher

Linguistic map as Suggested by Dr.Kalyanaraman




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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:13
Excerpts from Dr.S.Kalyanaraman's book Indus Script Cipher(2010)







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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:17
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher : Heirogliphics of Indian Linguistic Area by Dr.S.Kalyanaraman






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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:20
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)





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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:23
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)





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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:26
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)





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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:29
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)





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Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)






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Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)





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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:37
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)





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Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)





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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:41
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)


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Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)




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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:44
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)



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Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)




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Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)




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Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:48
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 09:50
Excerpts from Indus Script Cipher (2010)


Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2010 at 18:25
I guess I must now state my beliefs! I believe that the catatrophic collision of the "island of India" happened not millions of years ago, but merely thousands!

Early maps, even until the 17th century CE, do not seem to denote the collison of the Isle of India into the Asian continent!

Thus, most every thing in India is younger than most every where else!

But, this is merely my theory, and it has the weight of nothing!

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Posted By: Sander
Date Posted: 01-Jan-2011 at 00:22
The gap between the latest Indus seal ( ca 2000-1500 BC ) and the earliest known Easter Island Rongo-rongo tablet ( anyhow way after 1000 AD ) is enormous ; at least 2500 years.
 
 
  
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 01-Jan-2011 at 09:33
The Himalyas didn't happen in a few thousand years.  The Mountain range was formed by the collision you speak of.  You can also get a rough dating on when the collision took place by examining the Marine fossils that are on the summit.  When the uplift happened the summit of the Range was a sea floor.

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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 01-Jan-2011 at 09:35
Got anymore windmills that are giving you trouble?Big smile

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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 01-Jan-2011 at 16:46
I still have some (windmills)to "Tilt!" En guarde!

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Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2011 at 04:18
Originally posted by opuslola

I guess I must now state my beliefs! I believe that the catatrophic collision of the "island of India" happened not millions of years ago, but merely thousands!

Early maps, even until the 17th century CE, do not seem to denote the collison of the Isle of India into the Asian continent!

Thus, most every thing in India is younger than most every where else!

But, this is merely my theory, and it has the weight of nothing!

Opuslola, Can you be more specific about the thousands you are mentioning here..

And about the collission
http://library.thinkquest.org/10131/geology.html - http://library.thinkquest.org/10131/geology.html


Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2011 at 04:43
Originally posted by Sander

The gap between the latest Indus seal ( ca 2000-1500 BC ) and the earliest known Easter Island Rongo-rongo tablet ( anyhow way after 1000 AD ) is enormous ; at least 2500 years.
 
 
  
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Ya there is a huge gap between the periods,but that doesnt speak against the similarities...


Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2011 at 21:54
Ranjithvnambiar asked if I could be more specific!

Technically no, since our modern dating techniques tend to side with the "rulers" of chronology! I, however, consider them as frauds! If they actually have a science it is voided because they are confined to dating certain things based upon past datings that were considered as in-valid and then they adjusted their measuring ratios, ect., and finally came into contact with the "consensual" chronology, with but a few exceptions!

What I really believe is that it appears there does not exist any certain written documents from anywhere in India that can be dated with certainty to before the 1st century CE!, and maybe even the 14th century CE!

You see, I place more importance upon real facts, that is those which are found in documents, that can be repeated upon a printing press, than anything else!

Just like this site pretends to examine, that is, is there anything that can connect the child-like script of Easter Island to that of India, is much like asking if child-like drawings made by Indians and Norwegians are similar! Of course they are, and as well they should be!

But, please ingore me and my theories, since it seems most all of you, and all of the missing and dead prior posters, tend to become more "one-sided" than "open minded!"

But that is one of the most common things found in any relay of information found upon any site like this one!

By the way, I have been particularly impressed by the lack of hatred usually found upon similar sites!

Regards to all,

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Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 05-Jan-2011 at 08:30

  In that case I have to say that you are technically right but you are wrong too.

Earliest writings or signs were found in  Indus valley ,Mesopotamia , Egypt , China , Greece etc.

To be more specific the signs on several seals and tablets found from Dholavira archaeological site of Rann of Kutch India was dated back to 3500BC.Ofcourse you don’t believe in Cabon dating, but many others do.

I need to say that I dont find rongorongo or any other scripts as childlike.

You were more specific about your not believing the dates in certain cases and that’s enough for me to understand you too are not devoid of prejudice.

Most of the Ancient Indic literature like Vedas,Upanishads,Brahmanas, puranas,itihasas and others were composed in pre-historic period and was preserved through oral tradition.

As you correctly said the scholars gave it a date based on relative chronology and gave it much later dates like 1200BC, 800BC, 600BC etc.But they never bothered about its content during the dating.

Most of these texts are explaining about many astronomical events like equinoxes,eclipses and others  which took place much before the dates attributed to them.

Please find a link attached to the works of an Astro Physist from Memphis university who based on the astronomical data given in the Indic text Mahabharata found out the exact date of its occurrence with the help of Planetarium Software

  http://www.omilosmeleton.gr/pdf/en/indology/narahari01.pdf - http://www.omilosmeleton.gr/pdf/en/indology/narahari01.pdf

http://sites.google.com/site/sarasvati96/reclaimingthechronologyofbharatam:narahariachar%28july2006%29 - http://sites.google.com/site/sarasvati96/reclaimingthechronologyofbharatam:narahariachar(july2006)

Even the date of Birth of Buddha as told by the stars were 1300 years earlier than the dates given by scholars.

I personally believe that stars or relative stellar positions will tell truth which will be far more reliable than the dating based on the relative chronology of rulers as told by you.

Regards



Posted By: ranjithvnambiar
Date Posted: 05-Jan-2011 at 08:33
A write up about the evolution of writing in India By Subhash Kak,An Indian American Computer Scientist and Indologist.

http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/writ.pdf - http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/writ.pdf



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