Which extinct animals would you like to see?
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Topic: Which extinct animals would you like to see?
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Which extinct animals would you like to see?
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 12:34
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Lets say if genetic cloning could bring back some animals; which one would you like to see?
heres the ones I would like
Amphicoelias, the largest land creature to have lived.
a pic
 A size reference
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Longest_dinosaurs1.png - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Longest_dinosaurs1.png
(Its in red)
It rivals the blue whale in size. More than 200 tonnes!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 12:47
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On sea I would love to see the largest shark ever. The Megalodon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalodon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalodon
Also
size reference
(compared with a man and a great white; in red is the megalodon)
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Megalodon_scale1.png - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Megalodon_scale1.png
Look at how big its tooth was ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Megalodon.jpg - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Megalodon.jpg )
 An artists impression.
It used to hunt whales!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/MEG1.jpg - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/MEG1.jpg
 I suspect our Aussie friends would not be too happy to have their seas become even more dangerous. Look at the brightside mates, now to instead of elections or a no confidence vote all you need to do to get rid of a PM or any pol is to tell him to take a swim.
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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 14:51
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I'd like to see all the theorpods... from a safe distance, and hunt one once cloning had bought back enough of them that the population was stable, I wonder what threropod meat would taste like ------------- 
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Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 15:00
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sabertooth!!!!!
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Posted By: Roberts
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 15:10
| I would like to see mammoths. |
Posted By: Constantine XI
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 15:24
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Hey this is a great thread. I would love to see some of Australia's unique and fascinating megfauna which existed prior to the arrival of Australian aborigines circa 40,000 years ago. Here are a couple of top contenders:   Diprotodon, the largest marsupial which ever lived. Basically one massive, oversized wombat. And even more fascinating is our own enigmatic maruspial lion, which a stronger bite in relation to its jaw size than any of the big cats of today: http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bonediggers/images/vani-01.jpg&imgrefurl=www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bonediggers/vani-01.html&h=468&w=378&sz=53&hl=en&start=3&usg=__yAtAFAEgDXixDeoQj0pHOIK6Gc0=&tbnid=pV59VcHAWAJAyM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%3DThylacoleo%2Bcarnifex%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG - http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bonediggers/images/vani-01.jpg&imgrefurl=www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bonediggers/vani-01.html&h=468&w=378&sz=53&hl=en&start=3&usg=__yAtAFAEgDXixDeoQj0pHOIK6Gc0=&tbnid=pV59VcHAWAJAyM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%3DThylacoleo%2Bcarnifex%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 15:50
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Phorusrhacidae's or terror birds. A giant flightless carnivourous bird. At one time birds were the apex predators believe it or not.  They stood 10 feet tall
from a museum
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Phorusrhacid_-Terror_Bird_reconstruction-3.jpg - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Phorusrhacid_-Terror_Bird_reconstruction-3.jpg
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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 17:52
Grand Sloth.....
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Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 18:29
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Sparten, they remind me of 10,000 BC.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 19:53
Sarcosuchus Imperator, the largest croc ever, it weighed 10 tonnes and grew to 12 meters (40 feet) in length.
 Artists image of it attacking large prey.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Sarcosuchus_and_Nigersaurus.jpg - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Sarcosuchus_and_Nigersaurus.jpg ------------- |
Posted By: Justinian
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 22:07
Great thread Sparten. There are quite a few, I was obsessed with palaeontology as a kid, so with that the first would have to be the T-rex. As well as megalodon, I remember well a picture I saw in a book with at least 5 people all easily fitting inside the jaws of one. Another one would be the short faced bear.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ArctodusSimusReconstruct.jpg">
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctodus_simus - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctodus_simus
I saw a model of one on two legs in a museum/archaelogical dig in South Dakota, god it was huge. The idea of a bear looking through the second story window of a house, crazy. Of course I would also want to see the largest land animal ever, an animal similar in size to a blue whale only living on land, that is a must see.
There are a ton more that are mammals: Woolly Mammoth, Woolly Rhinocerous, really all of the various extinct rhinocerous species. I had a book on extinct mammals, some amazing creatures there.
Edit: I can't believe I almost forgot to mention Utahraptor. Ever since Jurassic Park I've had an interest, even more so when I learned of the largest of the dromaeosauridae.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Utahraptor_scale.png">
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Posted By: TheARRGH
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 06:13
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All of them. But the top three would probably be Neanderthals, Whatever the largest and nastiest sea predator was, and the little-known Honest Politician.  ------------- Who is the great dragon whom the spirit will no longer call lord and god? "Thou shalt" is the name of the great dragon. But the spirit of the lion says, "I will." - Nietzsche |
Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 09:36
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I wouldn't mind seeing a Quetzalcoatlus on the streets of Tallinn either. An image comparision here:
There's also the infamous Sea Cow, that I'm sure Seko would like to own... The great Elasmosaurus, with which I'll destroy the page integrity and size measures /hopefully/:
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'Posted By: Frederick Roger
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 12:10
Isn't Nessie an Elasmosaurus? 
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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 12:46
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Dront! Edit: apparently that'd be dodo in English. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 14:28
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The admins are going to kill me for this, but pic? Or at least a link.
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Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 14:37
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You don't know a Dodo?
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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 14:55
Their mere appearance makes me smile. They look like a cross between lunne birds (edit:puffins, I should stop assuming the Swe and English names are the same) and hens.  |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 15:18
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I do know a dodo, but hey looks better.
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2008 at 01:40
My cousin Louie. Haven't seen him in years. ------------- "Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces". Unknown. |
Posted By: Constantine XI
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2008 at 02:20
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Geez, no wonder that bird is extinct. Can you imagine how much good meat you would get out of that piece of poultry! Beats the steroid charged chickens of today easily. ------------- |
Posted By: Afghanan
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2008 at 07:05
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My List:
Smilodon (Aka Sabre Tooth Cat)
 Tazmanian Tiger
 Tylosaurus
 Megaladon
 Titanus (Giant Terror Bird of S. America)
 Argentinosaurus
 Carcharadontosaur
 Brachariosaurids like the Sauroposeidon
 Dunkleosteus
  Deinonychus
 Styracosaurus
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2008 at 07:27
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^
No fair I mentioned Killer Bird and Megalodon first!
You have to provide a link BTW.
Also great choices.
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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2008 at 10:07
All documentation says they tasted disgusting though. |
Posted By: Flipper
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2008 at 14:10
Rivals? This thing is twice as long...60m!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! It is sick! I would definetely want to see it. -------------  
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2008 at 19:24
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not sure whether extinct or not as last rec showed in 2006, but.. i want to see a giant squid. ------------- |
Posted By: Darius of Parsa
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 00:02
 Tyrannosaurus of course. ------------- What is the officer problem? |
Posted By: Afghanan
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 04:50
Sorry I couldnt see all those giant images you posted. You know you can resize your images right?
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Posted By: Afghanan
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 04:54
Your wish has been granted.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7372917.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7372917.stm ------------- The perceptive man is he who knows about himself, for in self-knowledge and insight lays knowledge of the holiest. ~ Khushal Khan Khattak |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 20:14
 
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Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 26-Nov-2008 at 11:47
Out of all the dinosaurs, I have always been fascinated with the 'raptors' - well, dromaeosaurs. A few, such as Utahraptor and Deinonychus, have been mentioned already. Despite it being a rather small creature in reality, I would love to study the Velociraptor. The 'cave lion' and Smilodon would also be very interesting. ------------- |
Posted By: JanusRook
Date Posted: 03-Dec-2008 at 00:10
This is easy I'd love to see a Steller's Sea Cow. They were the only vertebrate species to survive entirely off of algae in the northern pacific ocean, a niche that is currently empty due to it's extinction. ------------- Economic Communist, Political Progressive, Social Conservative. Unless otherwise noted source is wiki. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03-Dec-2008 at 00:16
I just would like to see the marsupial wolf of Tasmania. If were possible, seen Chilean mastodons of 15.000 years ago would be simply shocking 
In any case, many want to see dinosaurs. I am not sure a dinasour could breath the current composition of the atmostphere. I would be pretty pathetic if dynos had to wear oxygen masks  . Anyone knows?------------- |
Posted By: Whiteice
Date Posted: 04-Dec-2008 at 03:21
Ceratosaurous!
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Ceratosaurus_nasicornis_DB.jpg - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Ceratosaurus_nasicornis_DB.jpg ------------- "Speed is good, but accuracy is everything"-Xenophon |
Posted By: Ponce de Leon
Date Posted: 04-Dec-2008 at 16:02
| Looking at all of these pictures of these terrifying monsters I am saying to myself...living in those times must be so goddamn scary! |
Posted By: Dolphin
Date Posted: 04-Dec-2008 at 16:31
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The sauroposeidon in the above picture is far too big in comparison to that human figure. Couldn't possibly be that big above water, or below it actually.
I'd love to see the Giant Sloth for real, something really scary about it. ------------- |
Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 05-Dec-2008 at 11:47
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The Giant Sloth is epic! Whiteice - your choice of Ceratosaurus is interesting. What made you choose it above other extinct animals? ------------- |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 06-Dec-2008 at 03:29
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while the dinosaurs are spectacular creatures i wouldn't mind seeing temporary, I have a fascination with the big mammals of the ice age - the mega fauna. I think I would answer this as 'which extinct animal would you like to bring back' The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammoth - - Dwarf variety)  woolly rhinoceros ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woolly_rhinoceros - Syrian camel (picture shows how much bigger it was)  the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctodus_simus - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Elk - and for the a bit of Australian flavour http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dromornis_stirtoni - - here  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procoptodon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsupial_Lion - Marsupial lions should rate a mention and the Tasmanian tiger i hope we can re-discover  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bonediggers/vani-01.html - |
Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2008 at 03:03
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Nice images Leo. The mega-fauna of Australia are fascinating. In regards to the Tassie Tiger - I don't think we should give up hope yet...the Tasmanian wilderness is still very untouched and the chance of finding a Thylacine is not zero. It would be great to discover a small clan of them again. ------------- |
Posted By: Darius of Parsa
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2008 at 04:47
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That Syrian Camel looks very interesting.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-Dec-2008 at 11:21
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When did the Syrian Camel die out? ------------- |
Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 28-Dec-2008 at 11:42
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It's not a recent animal, like the Caspian Tiger or anything. They were around with the megafauna, and died out maybe 5-10,000 years ago.
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Posted By: InTheFade
Date Posted: 27-Jul-2010 at 01:02
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Neanderthal
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Posted By: DreamWeaver
Date Posted: 27-Jul-2010 at 04:49
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Socialists in the British Labour Party.....................no not really.
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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 28-Jul-2010 at 05:08
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Glad you posted here DW!
I have wanted to make a small statement concerning the greatest of the Brachariosaurids pictured earlier in this thread. They are depicted as being 30 meters or more in length, and weighing 200+tons! With all of this weight, it seems they might well have to be very careful where they walked? And it also seems that they might well be unable to regain their footing if they fell, assuming their bodies could actually survive falling over! It has been proposed, if we actually consider the great size of these beasties to be correct, that for these creatures to have lived, then gravity must have been less at that period of time? For example, the King Tiger tanks of WWII, weighed about 69-70 tonnes and had trouble when encountering anything but the hardest dryest ground, it even cracked paved roads! You can read about it here; http://science.howstuffworks.com/panzerkampfwagen-vi-tiger-ii.htm/printable So, our 70 Tonne tank, weighed only about 1/3rd of what the greatest land animals weighed, and they were supported not by a large tread, but by four legs, and foot pods of some size! One might well reason that if these beasts moved by lifting one or two feet off of the ground at one time, like our current four legged friends, that this would tremendously increase the pressure upon the other two or three feet! Thus my mention that the beast had to be very careful where he/she would step! When it came to mating, then other large problems might arise? 
It might even be questioned just how much of a grade this beast could traverse? Slipping and sliding might well also become a problem? Or did the beasts only live in shallow lakes, with hard bottoms? So, was the ground harder back then or was gravity lower, or is there some other explanation? ------------- http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/history/ |
Posted By: Afghanan
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2010 at 09:15
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Brachiosaurids had powerful leg bones, but also hollow ones too. ------------- The perceptive man is he who knows about himself, for in self-knowledge and insight lays knowledge of the holiest. ~ Khushal Khan Khattak |
Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2010 at 17:37
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OK, Hollow Leg Bones! But bones do not make us a really significant part of an animals weight! Do they?
As far as I know about anatomy, etc., it is muscle and fat, and the significant part of water, etc., that determines weight? But, perhaps I could be wrong? ------------- http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/history/ |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06-Sep-2010 at 01:33
Yes, I was thinking Neanderthals too. |
Posted By: ConradWeiser
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2010 at 10:32
Agreed. Dinosaurs would prove difficult to clone (little DNA remaining) but more recent extinct mammals might prove worthwhile. Woolly Mammoths also, I think. Plenty of frozen carcasses to help reconstruct the deteriorating DNA from. ------------- Another year! Another deadly blow! Another mighty empire overthrown! And we are left, or shall be left, alone. -William Wordsworth |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2010 at 11:33
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The effort to clone woolly mammoths is being made. It is hoped an elephant can be used in the cloning process. Other scientist have analyzed the DNA of the woolly mammoth and say it is not a good species for cloning. |
Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 08-Sep-2010 at 16:34
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Actually if dinosaur bones are anywere similar in weight to size as a human being, then a 200 tonne brute's bone structure would weigh about 40 tonnes, maybe less if they were hollow!
I still don't know how they managed to move and survive at that weight! That is, without them being full time creatures of the water! But, it seems great creatures lived mostly upon dry land, even in those times! Again, at that weight, even getting near to a river bank could be deadly! Maybe they were very, very smart?, and careful? ------------- http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/history/ |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2010 at 01:08
opuslola 
no reason to trouble your pretty little head over the condition of dinosaurs. They are not mentioned in the bible, and we know the bible is God's word and gives us an accurate explanation of creation. Obviously dinosaurs didn't exist. All those bones and pictures are just human imagination, like the unicorn and those half horse/ half man creatures.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2010 at 01:25
This site is perfect for this thread. It is about replacing animals in North America that died out long ago.
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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2010 at 09:25
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"Let’s take the camel as an example. Camels originated here in North America, not in the Old World, around 50 million years ago. They spent most of their time here, but then around 3 million years ago they crossed from Alaska to Siberia and moved down into Asia and into the African continent.
The camel is a good candidate for rewilding." Yes, the repotedly left America! But, we do not know "why?" And, so it appears did the horse! But, the American Bison remained? All of these animals, it appears, were plains concentrated! Most people do not know that herds of American Bison also roamed throughout lands to the East of the Missouri / Mississippi river! Some people have even suggested that great paths of forest that had been leveled by tornados provided them with highways! Were there better jobs in Asia for Camels and horses?  ------------- http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/history/ |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2010 at 11:47
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opuslola, it is nice when say something that is not an insult, and can actually be used for discussion. Animals, and probably humans, crossed the Bering Straits.
It is not that camels left for better jobs in Asia, but they just spread, Climate conditions changed and those that remained in North America died out while the woolly mammoth survived. This could lead us to believe the camels and horses could not survive the ice age North America when it was covered by a sheet of ice, but woolly mammoth could survive these cold conditions. Right now melting of ice is opening the Bering Straits to warm ocean waters, and this of course causes more melting of ice. I also causes a change in ocean currents that cause weather change globally. Life as we know it will probably come to an end and we will face a different survival channel, even more challenging than our present economic crisis. http://archaeology.about.com/od/bcthroughbl/qt/beringia.htm |
Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2010 at 16:26
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opuslola, it is nice when say something that is not an insult, and can actually be used for discussion. Animals, and probably humans, crossed the Bering Straits.
Yes, supposedly going in opposite directions!
Please be honest, no one really knows the dates of any of this stuff! It is mere speculation on all points! After all speculation is the only way to explain away the problems that still remain! "This could lead us to believe the camels and horses could not survive the ice age North America when it was covered by a sheet of ice, but woolly mammoth could survive these cold conditions." So I guess Mexico was not habitable then? You do know that it has been speculated that the Native Americans actually decimated these vast hordes of animals in a great slaughter! Which actually caused their demise! Thanks for the kind words! ------------- http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/history/ |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Sep-2010 at 11:30
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I have to eat my words. I am deleting what I said in this space, because I was wrong, and you are right, Opuslola. Evidently the horse and camel didn't even begin until the last ice, and they followed the melting ice north and crossed over the Bering Straight, while animals that began in Europe crossed over the Bering Straight into the Americas. Now it makes some sense for some humans to stop in this region and make it home. They got animals coming from both sides coming to them. |
Posted By: MillerA
Date Posted: 06-Mar-2011 at 04:14
This and I have no desire to come face to face with a large carnivore or anything that's massive in size really. I remember seeing some dinosaur exhibits at an http://www.childrensmuseum.org/ - indianapolis museum years ago and you didn't really take in the size until you standing next to a replica. It would be neat to see a Megalodon from a safe haven. Sharks are intimidating enough but one that is larger than a whale would be a sight to behold. |