China open to cooperation with EU on Africa
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Topic: China open to cooperation with EU on Africa
Posted By: Spartakus
Subject: China open to cooperation with EU on Africa
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2008 at 11:31
China open to cooperation with EU on Africa: official
Beijing (AFP) Jan 9, 2008 China said Thursday that it was prepared to step up cooperation with the European Union on development in Africa, but warned that African opinions should be fully respected in the process. "We are willing to discuss with the EU enhancing cooperation and exchanges on the African issue," foreign ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu told journalists. "We also believe that the international community, when seeking to enhance cooperation on Africa, should respect and heed fully the opinions of the African side." Jiang was commenting on a proposed plan by the European Commission to cement a partnership with China on African development as the Asian giant's influence in the resource-rich continent expanded. EU Development Commissioner Louis Michel said Wednesday he would present partnership plans after his first official visit to China in March. He did not elaborate. "The aim is to reinforce the partnership with China in Africa," Michel said. "Africa has become a sought-after continent rather than a seeking continent." Asked what interest China would have in such a partnership, Michel said the "African elite" was becoming aware about China's growing interests on the continent, which "would inevitably incite reactions." "I have the impression that this idyllic relation between Africa and China is inevitably going to end," he said. http://www.terradaily.com/reports/China_open_to_cooperation_with_EU_on_Africa_official_999.html - http://www.terradaily.com/reports/China_open_to_cooperation_with_EU_on_Africa_official_999.html------------- "There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. " --- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996) |
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Posted By: Ponce de Leon
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2008 at 16:27
| The Chinese Empire's tentacles are now getting longer. |
Posted By: longshanks31
Date Posted: 20-Jan-2008 at 00:44
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seems sensible enough ------------- long live the king of bhutan |
Posted By: Kamikaze 738
Date Posted: 22-Jan-2008 at 02:30
| Atleast we are helping some of the situations in Africa like Darfur unlike the EU or America... |
Posted By: pikeshot1600
Date Posted: 23-Jan-2008 at 19:41
What exactly is China doing other than securing oil and natural resources for herself on the African continent? According to a news story today, perhaps 5,000,000 have died in the Congo wars. Is help on the way? I doubt it.
As far as America. Not our problem. The Euros can deal with it.
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Posted By: kasper
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2008 at 06:19
Actually, China is doing anything but that. For the past few years, China has given the Sudanese government, which has done very little to end the Darfur crisis, millions of dollars in economic aid. The reason why African governments prefer Chinese sponsored development is because Beijing offers economic packages that lack any restrictions on how recieving governments must spend the given aid. On the other hand, Western economic aid forces the Sudanese government to take responsibility for their domestic policies in regions such as Darfur and southern Sudan. As a result of this, Beijing is destabilizing Africa in an effort to exploit the region's natural wealth and win over African leaders. ------------- |
Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2008 at 10:54
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This is actually a common phenomena. Japan pays a huge amount of development aid to countries, simply hands the money over and never moniters it. Western aid agencies put restrictions on aid, who it goes to and how it's spent. Seems China has adopted the Japanese model. Governments like Japanese aid, because a percentage off the top of it goes straight into their back pocket. Japanese argue this this pragmatism, it's how Asia works and once everyone's taken their cut the rest goes quickly and efficiently to the target. Whereas countries often reject western aid or tie it up for months.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2008 at 11:30
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Western "Aid" is a misomer anyway, more like rewards for behaviour. ------------- |
Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2008 at 14:00
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Government aid yes, but you forget the NGO's who do a better job than any government, eastern or western.
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Posted By: pikeshot1600
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2008 at 15:05
They are called bribes. They are time-honored diplomatic tools, and generally have been quite effective.
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Posted By: pikeshot1600
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2008 at 15:13
Absolutely right. The current news coverage of the extension of Sudan's BS to Chad reflects that it is nothing more than an attempt to remove that government through "rebels" in an attempt to get better access to the oil known to be there. The Chinese are in Sudan for....OIL. They will take it from over the border as well.
As far as China helping in Darfur, the Chinese don't care about those people. They are not Chinese; they don't have the Mandate of Heaven, and they can't afford China's manufactured goods.
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Posted By: pikeshot1600
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2008 at 19:32
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I just saw, on another website, a link to an article that states that the UN "fears" that Chad-Sudan "strife" could undermine the UN force that never seems to materialize in Darfur.
The SudanPsychos know the UN and the members thereof don't want to put boots on the ground anyway. What better way to keep those pesky foreign infidels out than by extending the conflict to another polity? This complication ought to be good for another year of UN dithering. And if they and their Chinese buddies can gain access to the oil in Chad, its a double header.
Africa, as it has been for the last 500 years, is doomed to be a battleground where outside powers who are resource poor will fight wars by proxy. Africans die; Africa gets looted, someone else gets to drive Mercedes and drink champagne.
China is going to cooperate with the EU....yeah, that is what is going to occur.
 I haven't noticed any Chinese diplomats making common cause with Sarkozy, and I doubt it will happen. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2008 at 19:46
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Pikeshot1600, I can't blame the Sudanese, they have their own interests (keeping Darfur Sudanese), and the rebels are just as bad, their "crimes" seem to go unnoticed. China is offering Sudan help in defeating the insurrection and aid, the west is offering.............
As you say all I looking out for their interests.
Paul,
don't get me started on the NGO's, after the earthquake in Kashmir, I had the occasion to see some in action. Except for a few of the larger ones, like Oxfam (and they had their problem) many seemed to be staffed by college students wishing to make their CV look impressive. ------------- |
Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 05-Feb-2008 at 19:46
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Poor Africa, being divided up by imperialists yet again this time by the back door.
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