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10,000 year old mammoth carcass found

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Topic: 10,000 year old mammoth carcass found
Posted By: morticia
Subject: 10,000 year old mammoth carcass found
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2007 at 14:31
A 10,000 year old female baby mammoth frozen carcass was found in Siberia. It is the most well preserved specimen found to date of a mammoth. Here’s the article and a photo of the cutie!

Source: http://www.thestar.com/News/article/234736



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"Morty

Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst



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Posted By: Constantine XI
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2007 at 21:30
What a find! Thanks for sharing that, morticia. It's incredible something that has been dead so long is so well preserved.


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Posted By: SearchAndDestroy
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2007 at 21:34
Think they will be able to extract DNA from this one? The last one they tried for cloning purposes had DNA that was to damaged. This one being so well preserved, you can only hope!

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Posted By: elenos
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2007 at 23:37
Cute little girl, or was it a boy?



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elenos


Posted By: Dolphin
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 04:29
Girl, the man who found it named it after his wife - Lyuba. Seems like a not very nice thing to do, naming an 'elephant' after your wife, but then of course she'll probably have a bigger legacy than most of us.
 
Some scientists say that they definitely will bring the mammoth back by intermingling stripped elelphant dna with mammoth dna, but others say that the dna would be far too 'shot' to make it possible. Where would we put them anyway?? Its a mammoth task, one way or the other..<<chuckle>>


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Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 04:35
saw this today. I hope they find some intact and usable DNA


Posted By: elenos
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 07:05
We could keep them to wander around up in Siberia. Not many people would want to go and visit them up there. Caring for them would be a real tusk!Tongue

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elenos


Posted By: Dolphin
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 07:11
Hoof started the puns?! Because I aint goina stop

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Posted By: elenos
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 08:17
You mean hoof hearted? (say that one quickly) But seriously they complain about cattle emitting gases, what about the gases from huge  beasts wandering around near the Arctic Circle? "Lyuba, if I've told you once I've told you a thousand times, make a rude noise like that again and you will cause a sudden change in the weather. Is that an ice storm over there? Help! "


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elenos


Posted By: Dolphin
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 08:32

Elenos, you have officially the most active imagination of any human I have encountered..! You should try your hand at poetry



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Posted By: Aelfgifu
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 08:53
Originally posted by elenos

You mean hoof hearted? (say that one quickly) But seriously they complain about cattle emitting gases, what about the gases from huge  beasts wandering around near the Arctic Circle? "Lyuba, if I've told you once I've told you a thousand times, make a rude noise like that again and you will cause a sudden change in the weather. Is that an ice storm over there? Help! "
 
LOLLOLLOLLOLClap


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Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 13-Jul-2007 at 15:12
Originally posted by SearchAndDestroy

Think they will be able to extract DNA from this one? The last one they tried for cloning purposes had DNA that was to damaged. This one being so well preserved, you can only hope!


According to this article, Tikhonov (the Deputy Director of the Russian Academy of Science's Zoological Institute, says the following regarding the cloning process of this specimen:

“There were suggestions that the baby mammoth could be cloned and be used to breed a live mammoth. Tikhonov dismissed these ideas because, cloning can only take place if whole cells are still intact, but since the mammoth was found in permafrost, the freezing would have caused the cells to burst."

Tikhonov said, "Such a unique skin condition protects all the internal organs from modern microbes and micro-organisms ... In terms of its future genetic, molecular and microbiological studies, this is just an unprecedented specimen."

Here's the article: http://kaylascott.newsvine.com/_news/2007/07/11/831104-baby-mammoth-found-in-siberia

Here's a closer view of the baby mammoth, who is a female (ahem) and presumed to have died about the age of six months - and well preserved in permafrost.



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"Morty

Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst


Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 13-Jul-2007 at 15:13
Originally posted by elenos

You mean hoof hearted? (say that one quickly) But seriously they complain about cattle emitting gases, what about the gases from huge  beasts wandering around near the Arctic Circle? "Lyuba, if I've told you once I've told you a thousand times, make a rude noise like that again and you will cause a sudden change in the weather. Is that an ice storm over there? Help! "


I wouldn't stand behind them, if I were you!

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"Morty

Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst


Posted By: elenos
Date Posted: 13-Jul-2007 at 21:05

We had a lttle baby mammoth
Called
Lyuba
Who wandered wild and free
Who could ever tell?
How one day her sweet name 
Would be written down
In
paleontological history

Now poor little Lyuba
And the species of her mom
Went extinct out in ice country
What a permafrost tragedy!
But the come the day
When her DNA  
May clone again and
Rise up to speak to me.



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elenos


Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 14-Jul-2007 at 09:16
LOL


Posted By: PanzerOberst
Date Posted: 17-Jul-2007 at 17:10
Well done elenos Clap

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"If the tanks succeed, then victory follows"
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Posted By: elenos
Date Posted: 18-Jul-2007 at 02:45
Actually I'm feeling guilty for sidelining the discussion. There are more questions to be asked. I feel sentimental about their passing, no doubt about that, but  to again introduce an animal that uses it's giant tusks like a snow plough to get at the vegetation underneath for the whole herd may well have serious effect on the present day environment.

Could it be they were being pushed further north, past the point of no return, by relentless Ice Age hunters lusting for an elephant barbeque?


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elenos


Posted By: PanzerOberst
Date Posted: 18-Jul-2007 at 07:24
Ir's possible I suppose, particularly for the early people who co-habitated with them, for instance the eskimos and their occassional diet of whales. Our good old mother earth has suffered more than enough at our hands.

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"If the tanks succeed, then victory follows"
- Heinz W. Guderian



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