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The historical roots of the Danish civilization

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Topic: The historical roots of the Danish civilization
Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Subject: The historical roots of the Danish civilization
Date Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 05:47

http://www.chn.ir/english/eshownews.asp?no=4610 - Danish Archaeologists in Search of Vikings in Iran

Tehran, Jan. 20 (CHN) – Researchers from the Copenhagen Museum in Denmark have traveled to the coasts of the Caspian Sea, northern Iran, in search of clues of relationships between Iranians and Vikings.

A few years ago, a researcher from the Copenhagen Museum, Nadia Haupt, discovered more than one thousand coins and relics that did not belong to the Danish or other Scandinavian cultures, and therefore set to find out more about the historical roots of the Danish civilization.

The ancient items that took the attention of experts included more than one hundred thousand coins that are not part of the Danish history, Viking shipwrecks that Haupt believes their style of construction and the kind of trade they used to undertake differentiate them from those of their ancestors, clothes and accessories used today in some Scandinavian cities and villages, and red and blue colors included in the clothes of the residents under study.

The findings prompted archeologists and anthropology enthusiasts to find out more about their ancestral roots, and where these items have originally come from. The first hypothesis that these items originated from southwestern Europe such as Spain was overruled with more studies.

The next hypothesis focused on the northeastern countries in Europe, or more specifically Russia. Relics found in the excavations of the area have confirmed the existence of trade relationships between Denmark and Russia, but Haupt intends to get to the main roots.

She has followed her leads in Russia and has now come to the Iranian side of the Caspian Sea, hoping to prove that Eastern cultures had influenced the Scandinavian countries, such as Denmark.

Director of the research center of the Cultural Heritage Department, Mazandaran province, Ali Mahforouzi, told CHN that Haupt’s field work will continue for 2 weeks, after which she would go back to Denmark to hopefully announce the results of her studies in 3 months.

Mahforouzi believes that further excavations in European countries may show that old Asian civilizations, especially Iran, have had a more important role in the booming of the European cultures.



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Posted By: Rava
Date Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 06:51

It's interesting to compare some ethnonyms:

Jutes and Jutland with Jats (Saka tribes)

Dannes and Dandaki (Saka tribe)

The Gots and Get (Sarmatian ethnonym probably of the same root like Jat)

It is well known that Gots were called Scythians.



Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 09:50

We had a long discussion about the Goths, Gutians or Gutis were a famous tribe from the Zagros region, People of the Gotvand region in Khuzestan are still knowns as "Gutis".

Rev. Dr. Joseph Bosworth (1789-1876) was a reknowned language scholar in his day. On the subject of origins, he stated, “The Goths were of Asiatic origin... [early Roman historian] Tacitus speaks of no Goths in Scandinavia.” (The Origin of the Germanic And Scandinavian Languages And Nations, pp. 112-113) The scholarly twenty-volume series, Asiatic Researches, adds this important information: “A late very learned writer concludes, after all his laborious researches, that the Goths or Scythians came from Persia; and another contends with great force, that both the Irish and old Britons proceeded severally from the borders of the Caspian; a coincidence of conclusions from different media by persons wholly unconnected, which could scarce have happened, if they were not grounded on solid principles.” (II:65)



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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 10:33
Cyrus, Bosworth is a *little* outdated



Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 11:28
whenever I see nation or culture X topic posted by Cyrus, I know it means he has found an article about how nation or culture X is related to Persians!

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