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Topic: Molon Labe
Posted By: Hellios
Subject: Molon Labe
Date Posted: 14-Feb-2007 at 18:07
Question;
 
What's the meaning behind the expression "MOLON LABE"?  All I know is it's an historic ancient Spartan expression.
 
 
Thanks.
 



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Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 14-Feb-2007 at 18:20
i'll let a greek speaker take a better shot, but here is mine; it means something like this 'come and take/get them' which was the defiant response to the enemy asking for their weapons (to stand down and concede). The spartans i think gave that response in thermpolyae.


Posted By: Neoptolemos
Date Posted: 14-Feb-2007 at 19:01
True Leo.
Molon lavé (gr Μολών λαβέ) is the response that King Leonidas gave to Xerxes, when the latter asked the Spartans to surrender their arms. It means "come to take them" or "come and get them".
Molon, from emolon, from vlosko (verb). It is not used in modern greek.
Lavé, from lamvano which means take/get.
A true laconic response! Just to verbs, appropriately put together, were more than enough to show the spirit and mentality of the Spartans!

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Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 15-Feb-2007 at 12:22
Just a small clarification.The word Λαβέ (lave) is the second face (me,you,he,she,it,we,you,they)  in the imperative form of λαμβάνω (lamvanw).


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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 16-Mar-2007 at 19:40
Dear dimali, ex lubruni, amanti, kroni, etc.  Now you've put Italy as your country in profile settings.
 
Originally posted by dimali

i want to say that in my country the expression molon labe is used when we want to say that "we are brave and strong people'
it is called a region in my country like laberia and people are called lab (i dont want to claim anything) but we use often this phase for these peoples...... 
 
You've been banned repeatedly by other mods.  IP address, writing style, etc.
Also, provoking in Greek threads again.  Your 5 other posts quarantined.


Posted By: Flipper
Date Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 08:00
And I as expected what Liburni said is a lie. I just asked an Albanian about it LOL

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Posted By: akritas
Date Posted: 17-Mar-2007 at 08:43

In Greek the Molon Labe  pronounce  as Molon Lave (Mo-lone Lah-veh). "Μολών" (omikron - omega) is the participle of the past simple tense of the Ancient Greek verb "βλώσκω" (vlosko) = go, come, proceed.



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Posted By: Arbër Z
Date Posted: 18-Mar-2007 at 13:44
Originally posted by Flipper

And I as expected what Liburni said is a lie. I just asked an Albanian about it LOL
 
True!


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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 18-Mar-2007 at 14:01
Originally posted by Flipper

And I as expected what Liburni said is a lie. I just asked an Albanian about it LOL
Originally posted by Arbër Z

True!
 
I knew it was a lie right away.  There's no such place there.  Just another failed attempt to insult his neighbors.
If you see him again, send 1 of the mods a PM.  Thanks guys & good job keeping your cool.
 


Posted By: Arbër Z
Date Posted: 18-Mar-2007 at 14:08
Originally posted by Hellios

Originally posted by Flipper

And I as expected what Liburni said is a lie. I just asked an Albanian about it LOL
Originally posted by Arbër Z

True!
 
I knew it was a lie right away.  There's no such place there.  Just another failed attempt to insult his neighbors.
If you see him again, send 1 of the mods a PM.  Thanks guys & good job keeping your cool.
 
 
The place actually exists - Labëri (Country of the Labs). Lab - Labi - Labe are the inhabitants of that region. But it has nothing to do, no logical relation with Molon Lave, which has a known meaning and there is no need to make hypotheses...In albanian Molon Lave would be translated as Eja Merre - Ejani Merreni - Ec e Merre etc, so as you see...I agree speculative people should be bannedClap


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Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 18-Mar-2007 at 14:15
I mean Italy.  He said "my country" while using Italy in his profile & there was no mention of Albania in that post.
 


Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 18-Mar-2007 at 14:25
Arbër Z,
 
You have such a beautiful & historic country & people.
Too bad that fellow was just going around insulting his neighbors instead of posting about his beautiful & historic country.
 


Posted By: rex362
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2016 at 14:44
MOLON LAVE

IN SIMPLE ALBANIAN A 4 YEAR OLD COULD UNDERSTAND



MO LON LE VI  (gheg)  /ME LEN LE VI  (tosk) ------>  SAME THING / SAME MEANING



JUST SIMPLE PELASGIAN WORDS THAT ALBANIANS USE TO THIS DAY
KEEP IT SIMPLE AND USE COMMON SENSE TO MUCH CRITICAL THINKING WILL WARP YOUR MINDS

CASE CLOSE AND HAVE A GOOD DAY


Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2016 at 15:13
"Molon labe ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language - Greek μολὼν λαβέ molṑn labé), meaning "come and take [them]", is a classical expression of defiance. According to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodotus - Herodotus , when the  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire - Persian  armies demanded that the Greeks surrender their weapons at the  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae - Battle of Thermopylae , King https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonidas_I - Leonidas I  responded with this phrase."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molon_labe



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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2016 at 20:36
Originally posted by rex362

MOLON LAVE

IN SIMPLE ALBANIAN A 4 YEAR OLD COULD UNDERSTAND



MO LON LE VI  (gheg)  /ME LEN LE VI  (tosk) ------>  SAME THING / SAME MEANING



JUST SIMPLE PELASGIAN WORDS THAT ALBANIANS USE TO THIS DAY
KEEP IT SIMPLE AND USE COMMON SENSE TO MUCH CRITICAL THINKING WILL WARP YOUR MINDS

CASE CLOSE AND HAVE A GOOD DAY

You do realize this thread is 9 years old.
all the folks involved before you have been gone for years.


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