Did gauls named Gallipoli?
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Topic: Did gauls named Gallipoli?
Posted By: Turk Nomad
Subject: Did gauls named Gallipoli?
Date Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 05:34
| I red Ancrya and Gallipoli named by Gauls,is it true? |
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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 07:33
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Polis is an Greek word so I'd guess Gallipoli has Greek origins.
Though it is also in the French language, so maybe you are correct and they did name it. ------------- Light blue touch paper and stand well back http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 07:35
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Gallipoli comes from Greek Kallipoli, where Kallos=beauty and polis = city. Therefore Kallipoli (or Callipoli) = Beautiful city Ankyra, means Anchor in Greek. It is not determined if this is the origin of the name. The city was Frygian but was later developed mainly by Greek colonists from Pontus.
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Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 08:54
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there is another gallipoli in apuila (inside of italy's heal) also, agian a greek colony
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Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 14:09
| ankara is ancyria.(Or something like this), I think name comes from hittits. |
Posted By: Turk Nomad
Date Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 02:58
| İn Bilim Teknik,it says Gallipoli and Ancrya named by Gauls |
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 04:20
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What is "Bilim Tenkik"? ------------- The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
Posted By: Turk Nomad
Date Posted: 25-Oct-2006 at 07:59
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Posted By: Kapikulu
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 19:37
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But with one difference..It is not the Gauls...It is the Celts who named those, who came far away from Middle and West Europe to settle in different parts of Greece and Anatolia...
And Gauls are a part of Celts. ------------- We gave up your happiness Your hope would be enough; we couldn't find neither; we made up sorrows for ourselves; we couldn't be consoled; A Strange Orhan Veli |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 05:14
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First Gauls haven't ever settled Greece,all or stayed in North Thrace or migrated to Galatia of Minor Asia,hardly Phrygia region.
Because i see a lot of mythistory here by some Turks,I ask you to etymologise these words in Celtic.Yiannis above gave you the answer.
I don't understand why you have problem if many of your cities have Greek names? What did you expect,to have turkish? We speak for ancient cities.
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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 02-Nov-2006 at 06:09
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I don't think so- The Gallic invaders of Ionia and the Allatids of Pergamum settled further inland in anatolia and cappadocia. Gallipoli has more Greek connections and under the archionship of Cimon and Pericles it was heavily colinized by Athens ------------- |
Posted By: Kapikulu
Date Posted: 08-Nov-2006 at 14:58
Yes, Gauls haven't settled...The Celts were just "partially" settled in a small area AFAIK...But I am not sure...
And the rest of the post has no relation with the subject line except "Let's put some words against those Turks" mentality I believe, as there were no "mythhistory" among there, but anyways, the cities in Turkey mostly take their names from the very ancient origins, staying similar to what they were named in very ancient times...Many cities which were founded later, has names from different languages, including Greek, Turkish, Arabic, Armenian etc., but most of them were also using the name of the region given in Hittite, Urartu, Phrygian, Celtic etc. eras...But all was changed more or less in some way in terms of folks using and changing them over and over. ------------- We gave up your happiness Your hope would be enough; we couldn't find neither; we made up sorrows for ourselves; we couldn't be consoled; A Strange Orhan Veli |
Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 10-Nov-2006 at 12:46
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I do recall there being a distinct invasion of Pergamum by some Gauls from Cappadocia around the Alatid period. I'm not sure though- i'll do some more research. ------------- |
Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 10-Nov-2006 at 13:29
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Gaul - Gaulipolli - Gallipoli I can see why you think that ------------- |
Posted By: Turk Nomad
Date Posted: 10-Nov-2006 at 13:37
| İn Turkish: Gaul=Galat.Turkmens mixed with them at a crusade(first battled,after celebrated the spring togerher.They both schamanists) |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 11-Nov-2006 at 14:32
 Live your myth
- http://www.answers.com/topic/gallipoli and here is Galatia of Minor Asia: 
Look at the http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=Galatia2.pdf - Galatian colonies/placenames and places of their battles. |
Posted By: Kapikulu
Date Posted: 12-Nov-2006 at 16:02
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Myth?What do you mean by "myth" over here? As I can't see any...
Gallipoli may be named by Greeks but there is nobody here stating something other than thoughts..Only thoughts.
If you refer to this post of mine:
"But with one difference..It is not the Gauls...It is the Celts who named those, who came far away from Middle and West Europe to settle in different parts of Greece and Anatolia... "
It is made to state that that Gauls hadn't settled in Anatolia, it is the Celts, not Gauls pursuing to the claim that Gallipoli was named by Gauls...
Otherwise, nobody has problems with anything and as stated before, today's Turkish cities derive their name from many different origins.
And by the way,Galatia and Bithynia were the places where Celtic settlement was most intensively happened. ------------- We gave up your happiness Your hope would be enough; we couldn't find neither; we made up sorrows for ourselves; we couldn't be consoled; A Strange Orhan Veli |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 12-Nov-2006 at 16:21
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The myth to which I refered was the myth of the non-greekness of some cities,monuments etc in Turkey.
Do you think that if we proove to you that Ancyra is a greek place name we will make war to take it?  Thank God we are in 21st century now and the previous century and its "ways" seems realy too far.
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 14-Nov-2006 at 08:57
If this information is true, the Hittite "Ankuwash" recalls Ancyra. I don't know if their meanings are similar or not but it is for sure that the city beared a similar name way before the Greeks came to the area.
As for Gelibolu, Greek "Kallipolis" is a reasonable explanation. ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Bulldog
Date Posted: 14-Nov-2006 at 08:58
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Patrinos
The myth to which I refered was the myth of the non-greekness of some cities,monuments etc in Turkey. A real myth is the whole notion that Greeks founded every city and built every monument across Anatolia prior to the Turks. ------------- “What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.” Albert Pine |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 14-Nov-2006 at 10:26
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First the toponyms Ancyra and Kallipolis are tottaly greek,you can ask any greek kid from 1st grade...
If the Greeks from Pontus named the city Ancyra because they wanted to give a name simiral with its ancient one we can't be sure now. Buldog A real myth is the whole notion that Greeks founded every city and built every monument across Anatolia prior to the Turks. Can you name our lies...Which cities?? |