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CHESS, Iranian or Indian Invention?

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Topic: CHESS, Iranian or Indian Invention?
Posted By: Behi
Subject: CHESS, Iranian or Indian Invention?
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 06:20

Murray and van der Linde the two chess historians were almost certain that the birthplace of chess was Indian sub-continent, but most certainly it was invented in Iran for the following reasons: (To be brief I can outline the factors) .

1): Indian literature has no early mentions of chess but Persian literature does:
The first unmistakable reference in Sanskrit writings is in the "Harschascharita" by the court poet Bana, written between 625 and 640. On the other hand, pre-Islamic documents have solidly connected chess with the last period of the Sasanian rulers in Iran (VI-VII century). The "Kamamak", an epical treatise about the founder of this dynasty, mentions the game of chatrang as one of the accomplishments of the legendary hero. It has a proving force that a game under this name was popular in the period of redaction of the text, supposedly the end of the 6th century or the beginning of the 7th. Closely related is a shorter poem from about the same period entitled in Pahlavi "Chatrang-Nâmag", dealing with the introduction of chess in Iran.

Master Ferdowsi wrote also about it in the 11th century, but his sources are solid and form a continuous chain of witnesses going back to the middle of the 6th Century in Iran. Mater describes chess as arriving from Hind. According to historical sources this name "Hind" was not used for India until after the 11th century. Here Hind means Eastern-Province of Iranian Empire including Baluchistan, and while others thers have extended Hind to Khuzistan . As some Russian chess historians claim, nobody could possibly generate the rules of chess only by studying the array position at the beginning of a game. On the other hand, such an achievement might be made by looking at Takht-I Nard (backgammon).

2): India has no early chess pieces but Iran does:
The presence of carved chess men in Iranian domains contrasts with the absence of such items in India. There are no chess men there from early times, and only in the 10th century appears an indirect mention from al-Mas’udi: "The use of ivory (in India) is mainly directed to the carving of chess- and nard pieces". Some experts believe that old Indian chess pieces may be discovered one day! So far, this is mere speculation. The three oldest sets of chess pieces closely identified as such belong to Iranian domains, not to India. The most important are the Afrasiab pieces. They were found 1977 in Afrasiab, near Samarqand, and have been dated by its Soviet discoverers as early as the 7th-8th century. Western experts accept at least the year 761 because a coin so dated belongs to the same layer. These seven ivory men, questionable as all "idols" may be, are Iranian, even if the territory was under Islamic rule since 712. Next group of chess pieces (three chessmen) comes also from the Greater-Iran. The so-called Ferghana pieces include a "Rukh" in form of a giant bird, and its antiquity should be not too distant from the Afrasiab lot. In Nishapur another ivory set was discovered though belonging to later times, 9th or 10th century. These are not idols anymore and are carved following the abstract pattern which has been characterized as "Arabic".

3): The Arabs introduced chess in India after taking "Shatrang" from Iran:
Games upon the "ashtapada" board of 8x8, with dice and with two or more players may have served as "proto-chess", but the two types of games already differ too strongly in their nature and philosophy to make the evolution of "Chaturanga" into "Shatransh" a simple question of direct parentage via the Persian "Chatrang". Arab writers stated quite frequently that they took the game of "shatransh" from the Iranians, who called it "chatrang". This happens in the middle of a political-cultural revolution, which has been analysed in historical texts. The ruling Umayyad dynasty was thrown out after a fierce civil war by a certain Abul Abbas, who initiated a new era, founding in Baghdad in the former Iranian territory, around the year 750 and translating there from Damascus the Islamic political centre. The Abbasid dynasty was culturally of Iranian origin. So Iranian influences became clearly dominant in the cultural renaissance which took place inside the Arabic trunk. A lot of the previous knowledge from classical Greece, Byzantium, early Egyptian and Middle East civilizations and even "from the country of Hind" was compiled and re-translated into Arabic and absorbed in a scientific body which followed its further path towards the West. Chess was only a part of this knowledge, packaged together with earlier mathematical, astronomical, philosophical or medical achievements.

However, we know that while chess flourished in Baghdad in the 9th century, the earliest reliable account of chess-playing in India date only from the 11th century.

4): Etymology is unclear:
Although, Murray shows that Pahlavi words in the game are adapted from Sanskrit, and the Arabic in turn from Pahlavi but Sanskrit closely-linked contemporary relatives such as Avestan. However, the roots of several chess terms may be so go further to India, but the fact is that the Sanskrit word "Chaturanga" means only "army", and it is unclear whether it referred to chess, to a possible form of "protochess" with four players, or to some strategically exercise with pieces over a board with military purposes.

In any case, to be on safer ground, we must remember the earliest solid evidences about the board game called chess belong to Iran. The Pahlavi word "Chatrang" means, even to- day, the mandrake plant, which has a root in form of a human figure. So, there is a good case in favour of a different etymological interpretation: Any game played with pieces representing figures may be compared with the "shatrang" plant.

Another hint is the nomenclature of the pieces, persistently related to different sorts of animals rather than to components of an army: In the "Grande Acedrex" of King Alfonso of Castile (1283) lions, crocodiles, giraffes etc. play over a board of 12x12 cases with peculiar jumping moves, and the invention of it is connected to the same remote period in India as normal chess. They are very atypical in any context referring to India. (See the reference "Hasb"(War) in "The Encyclopaedia of Islam", De Gruyter, Leyden-New York 1967). On the other hand, elephants are not at all exclusive from Indian origin (Sir William Gowers, "African Elephants and Ancient Authors", African Affairs, 47 (1948) p.173 ff. Also Frank W. Walbank, "Die Hellenistische Welt", DTV 1983 p. 205-6), not even in military campaigns: The Iranian were the first nation that introduced cavalry and they had also foot-soldiers, chariots and elephants as well as river and battle-ships. In Egypt, the Ptolemaic Kings obtained elephants regularly from Somalia. Strabo (16,4,5) mentions the foundation of several cities in Africa with the main purpose of hunting elephants. The hunters have even written dedications to Ptolemaios IV Philopator (221-204 BC). Polybios describes a battle with elephants between Ptolomaios IV and Antiochos III in 217 BC. Pyrrhus and Hannibal used it in the West. Modern research has confirmed all the details.

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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 06:34
I read it in Asar ol-Belad v Akhbar ol-Ebad by Ghazvini
" Bozrgmehr (Bozajomehr) was minister of Khosorow I Anoshiravan,
he was scientist & Clever man, one of his rival, made a Shatrang ( Chess ) & Sent it to Anoshiravan court as challenge & asked Bozorgmeher to find method of the game.
Bozorgmehr find it & sent back method with Varagh=Ganjafeie game. (I don't know name in English SB writes it,plz)  "


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Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 07:19
Wiki claims differently:

The earliest mention of Shatranj or alternatively Chaturanga, or any version of chess, appears in the Sanskrit epic Mahabharata, written circa 500 BC. The oldest known chess pieces have been found in excavations of Moen jo Daro in Sindh dated to 3000 BC. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess#Origins_of_chess)

The earliest references to the game are found in the
Mahabharata written circa 500 BC, while the modern version of Chaturanga has been played since 600 CE or earlier, hence Chaturanga is most commonly believed to be the oldest version of chess.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaturanga)

There's even a theory that suggest a Chinese origin (Xiangqi) and notice of a strange chess-like game in Ancient Egypt.  Even the Irish hold some unclear claim to it!

Whatever the case it is very likely that Persians played a major role in its duffusion under Islamic rule. It's also significative how much the gameboard resembles the Manicheistic vision of a battle between light and darkness so deeply entrenched in Zoroastrian cosmogony.


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NO GOD, NO MASTER!


Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 08:00

The origins of chess is one of the most controversial areas of board gaming history. Countries which, at one time or the other, have been associated with invention of chess include http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindh" title="Sindh - Sindh / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India" title="India - India , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China" title="China - China , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Empire" title="Persian Empire - Persia , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt" title="Egypt - Egypt , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria" title="Assyria - Assyria , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabia" title="Arabia - Arabia , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece" title="Greece - Greece , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland" title="Ireland - Ireland and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbekistan" title="Uzbekistan - Uzbekistan .

Many countries claim to have invented the chess game in some incipient form. The most commonly held view is that chess originated in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindh" title="Sindh - Sindh . As a matter of fact, the Arabic, Persian, Greek and Spanish words for chess, are all derived from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit" title="Sanskrit - Sanskrit Chaturanga. The present version of chess played throughout the world is ultimately based on a version of Chaturanga that was played in India around the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6th_century" title="6th century - 6th century CE . It is also believed that the Persians created a more modern version of the game after the Indians. One ancient Persian text refers to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardashir_I_of_Persia" title="Ardashir I of Persia - Shah Ardashir , who ruled from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/224" title="224 - 224 – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/241" title="241 - 241 CE , as a master of the game.

Another theory exists that chess arose from the similar game of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiangqi" title="Xiangqi - Xiangqi ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China" title="China - Chinese chess), or at least a predecessor, thereof, existing in China since the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_century_BC" title="2nd century BC - 2nd century BC . Scholars who have favored this theory include http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Needham" title="Joseph Needham - Joseph Needham and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Li" title="David H. Li - David H. Li .


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A Persian youth playing chess with two suitors. Chess was played in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran" title="Iran - Persia as early as the 3rd century AD.

Origins of chess pieces


Chess-like pieces

Ever since the earliest times, and especially with regards to the most ancient of preliterate societies, chess-like pieces — isolated from whatever boards they could have been played on — were only simple http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figurine" title="Figurine - figurines cut from stone, or made from clay and fired, and for their small size could have been used to help in accounting in trade and commerce. As some researchers have come to believe, some tokens represented goods or merchandise in transit; including them in a caravan made the trading trip that much more legitimate, and may have invested in them a degree of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talisman" title="Talisman - talismanic luck. Trading partners relied upon the tokens as representatives of the real thing: a cube could represent a crate, a tiny horse figure could represent a horse, and a pod on a stalk could represent a bushel of grain. Insofar as ancient commerce goes, this sort of thing has immense practicality when it comes to balancing one's ledgers, and indicating whether partial shipments are meant to be completed with future shipments. No less important is the matter of exacting tribute from a subject people, and keeping track of how much tribute has been arrived at. This becomes all the more important in an economic network having no common currency, and where debts are satisfied with payments in kind. (In the Near East, for instance, clay tokens have been found in archaeological digs, and some believe that is how man's earliest writing systems first began: from pressing these tokens and figures into clay or waxen tablets, and eventually shipping the tablets instead of the tokens, as an accurate statement of accounts is the easiest way to avoid ill feelings between distant trading centers. It is widely assumed that the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script" title="Cuneiform script - cuneiform system of writing on wax or clay tablets followed very shortly after the practice of passing along the tokens.) But anyone who has had to deal with the drudgery of accounting knows that the tabulation and manipulation of tables of tokens is anything but fun, and ought to admit that that is a far cry from a game.


Chess pieces as talismans

An argument can also be advanced that chess pieces hewn from stone were miniature versions of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totem_poles" title="Totem poles - totems , useful for representing and predicting the conflict of divine forces in nature or society according to scientific methods available to anyone curious enough to inquire. As did many other ancient people, the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Rome" title="Ancient Rome - Romans kept little wood statues — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lares" title="Lares - lares et penates — by them in their houses and at work for good luck and good health, and considered spiritual power to be present in them, and emanate from them, wherever they were put. They were not merely placed on pedestals to repose there for general purpose veneration, they were brought and placed where they were believed to have the greatest effect: at the dinner table, the library, the bedroom, the business office, or the garden. Not all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talisman" title="Talisman - talismans were figurine in shape; many were cut or carved or minted in the shape of coins — some with magic words inscribed on them — and attached to chains for use as pendants; of course, attaching them to chains must render them less accessible to play on a chessboard. Regardless, the chess pieces of the game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shogi" title="Shogi - Shogi may have found their origin in a line of development similar to that. Even still, it is one thing to throw such pieces on a square grid, in a manner reminiscent to divination, as in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching" title="I Ching - I Ching , counting perfect throws against those where pieces straddle dividing lines, and it is quite another thing altogether to have them start from fixed positions and wage war against each other.


Chess pieces as objects of art

In any case, it was not until mankind had advanced thus far in art and technology that little stone figures could be placed on a rectangular grid, and used for some kind of game pieces, whether as animals or men, or wagons or ships, or towers and castles, that chess came close to being invented. In fact, as artisans became more proficient in the manufacture of porcelain, glass, and brick, and were able to make castings in metal, noble families too poor to obtain and maintain private http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoos" title="Zoos - zoos for themselves could still amass beautiful collections of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figurines" title="Figurines - figurines of animals, highly suitable for games when not otherwise reserved for private viewing. (A man on a horse — the knight of chess — was, for example, one of the most common figures in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet" title="Puppet - puppet shows in the Middle Ages, and making a puppet was far more complex and elaborate than is the case today, with many of them having porcelain heads connected to segmented bodies and limbs capable of independent movement, including ability to mount and dismount from the http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steed&action=edit" class="new" title="Steed - steeds that they rode.) The existence of sets of miniature figures could well have made the invention of chesslike games inevitable, and a mere matter of time.


Further development of chess

Chess eventually spread westward to Europe and eastward as far as Japan, spawning variants as it went. From India it migrated to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran" title="Iran - Persia , where its terminology was translated into Persian, and its name changed to chatrang. The names of its pieces were translated into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language" title="Persian language - Persian along the way. Although the existing evidence is weak, it is commonly speculated that chess entered Persia during the reign of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khusraw_I_N%C3%BBsh%C3%AErw%C3%A2n" title="Khusraw I Nûshîrwân - Khusraw I Nûshîrwân ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/531" title="531 - 531 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/578" title="578 - 578 CE).

From Persia it entered the Islamic world, where the names of its pieces largely remained in their Persian forms in early Islamic times. Its name became http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatranj" title="Shatranj - shatranj , which continued in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language" title="Spanish language - Spanish as ajedrez and in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" title="Greek language - Greek as zatrikion, but in most of Europe was replaced by versions of the Persian word shāh = "king".

There is a theory that this name replacement happened because, before the game of chess came to Europe, merchants coming to Europe brought ornamental chess kings as curiosities and with them their name shāh, which Europeans mispronounced in various ways.

  • Checkmate: This is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language" title="English language - English rendition of shāh māt, which is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language" title="Persian language - Persian for "the king is finished".
  • Rook: From the Persian rukh, which means "chariot", but also means "cheek" (part of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face" title="Face - face ). The piece resembles a siege tower. It is also believed that it was named after the mythical Persian bird of great power called the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roc" title="Roc - roc . In India, the piece is more popularly called haathi, which means "elephant".
  • Bishop. From the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language" title="Persian language - Persian pīl means "the elephant", but in Europe and the western part of the Islamic world people knew little or nothing about elephants, and the name of the chessman entered Western Europe as Latin alfinus and similar, a word with no other meaning (in Spanish, for example, it evolved to the name "alfil"). This word "alfil" is actually the Arabic for "elephant" hence the Spanish word would most certainly have been taken from the Islamic provinces of Spain. The English name "bishop" is a rename inspired by the conventional shape of the piece. In Russia, the piece is, however, known as слон = "elephant". In the Indian lingo however, the piece is more popularly known as oont = "camel".
  • Queen. Persian farzīn = " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizier" title="Vizier - vizier " became Arabic firzān, which entered western European languages as forms such as alfferza, fers, etc but was later replaced by "queen". Incidentally, the Indian equivalent of "queen", rani is used for the piece by Indians.

Among other early literary evidence for chess is a middle-Persian epic Karnamak-i-Artakhshatr-i-Papakan which mentions its hero as being skilled at chess. This work is dated with some reserve, however, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/600" title="600 - 600 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era" title="Common Era - CE : The work could have been composed as early as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/260" title="260 - 260 CE and as late as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000" title="1000 - 1000 CE. The earliest evidence which we can date with some certainty is in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Arabic_chess_literature" title="Early Arabic chess literature - early Arabic chess literature dating from the early http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9th_century" title="9th century - 9th century CE.

The game spread throughout the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam" title="Islam - Islamic world after the Muslim conquest of Persia. Chess eventually reached http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia" title="Russia - Russia via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolia" title="Mongolia - Mongolia , where it was played at the beginning of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_century" title="7th century - 7th century . It was introduced into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain" title="Spain - Spain by the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors" title="Moors - Moors in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_century" title="10th century - 10th century , and described in a famous http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_century" title="13th century - 13th century manuscript covering chess, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backgammon" title="Backgammon - backgammon , and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice" title="Dice - dice named the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libro_de_los_juegos" title="Libro de los juegos - Libro de los juegos . Chess also found its way across http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia" title="Siberia - Siberia into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska" title="Alaska - Alaska .

Chess with dice from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Romane_epoch&action=edit" class="new" title="Romane epoch - romane epoch was found in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France" title="France - France with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne" title="Charlemagne - Charlemagne figure sculpted on king pieces, and backgammon game.


Other theories


A seven-piece chess set made of ivory, dated to 762 AD and found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samarkand" title="Samarkand - Samarkand

Many of the early works on chess gave a legendary history of the invention of chess, often associating it with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nard" title="Nard - Nard (a game of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tables_%28board_games%29" title="Tables (board games) - tables variety like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backgammon" title="Backgammon - backgammon ). However, only limited credence can be given to these. Even as early as the tenth century http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zakaria_Yahya&action=edit" class="new" title="Zakaria Yahya - Zakaria Yahya commented on the chess myths, "It is said to have been played by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle" title="Aristotle - Aristotle , by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yafet_Ibn_Nuh" title="Yafet Ibn Nuh - Yafet Ibn Nuh ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japhet" title="Japhet - Japhet son of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah" title="Noah - Noah ), by http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sam_ben_Nuh&action=edit" class="new" title="Sam ben Nuh - Sam ben Nuh ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shem" title="Shem - Shem ), by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon" title="Solomon - Solomon for the loss of his son, and even by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve" title="Adam and Eve - Adam when he grieved for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel" title="Abel - Abel ." In one case the invention of chess was attributed to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses" title="Moses - Moses (by the rabbi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_ibn_Ezra" title="Abraham ibn Ezra - Abraham ibn Ezra in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1130" title="1130 - 1130 ). However, this claim is opposed by some Muslims who consider chess forbidden in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam" title="Islam - Islam .


India

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox-Forbes_theory" title="Cox-Forbes theory - Cox-Forbes theory - that chess originated from the four-handed chaturanga which was called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaturaji" title="Chaturaji - Chaturaji .
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahnama_theory" title="Shahnama theory - Shahnama theory - that chess was a replacement for war.

China

Literary sources indicate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi%C3%A0ngq%C3%AD" title="Xiàngqí - Xiàngqí may have been played as early as the 2nd century BC (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_in_early_literature" title="Chess in early literature - chess in early literature ). Other battle-like board games played in antiquity without dice include the ancient Chinese game of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28board_game%29" title="Go (board game) - Go , still popular even today. Although the origins of Go may extend as far back as 2300 BC http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-9365731?query=Go%20%28game%29&ct=" class="external autonumber" title="http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-9365731?query=Go%20%28game%29&ct= - [1] , substantial supporting evidence dates no earlier than the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_century_BC" title="3rd century BC - 3rd century BC . The oldest surviving remnant of ancient Chinese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_po" title="Liu po - Liubo (or Liu po) dates to circa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1500s_BC" title="1500s BC - 1500 BC . Nevertheless, Liubo, though sometimes considered a battle game, was played with dice. According to a hypothesis by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Li" title="David H. Li - David H. Li , general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Xin" title="Han Xin - Han Xin drew on Liubo to develop the earliest form of chess in the winter of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/204_BC" title="204 BC - 204 BC - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/203_BC" title="203 BC - 203 BC .


Iran

The Karnamak-i Ardeshir-i Papakan, an epical treatise about the founder of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassanid_dynasty" title="Sassanid dynasty - Sassanid dynasty , mentions the game of chatrang as one of the accomplishments of the legendary hero. It has a proving force that a game under this name was popular in the period of redaction of the text, supposedly the end of the 6th century or the beginning of the 7th. Closely related is a shorter poem from about the same period entitled in Pahlavi Chatrang-Nâmag, dated around AD 600, dealing with the introduction of chess in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran" title="Iran - Iran .

The oldest clearly recognizable chessmen have been excavated in ancient Afrasiab, today's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samarkand" title="Samarkand - Samarkand , in Iranian domains contrasts with the absence of such items in India. Afrasiab was under the Islamic rule since 712, but were essential an Iranian cultural domain of Persian origin.

As Bidev, the Russian chess historian pointed out, nobody could possibly generate the rules of chess only by studying the array position at the beginning of a game. On the other hand, such an achievement might be made by looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backgammon" title="Backgammon - backgammon (in Persian Takht-I Nard) , which is another Iranian game-invention.


Egypt

There is evidence of two http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egypt" title="Ancient Egypt - ancient Egyptian battle-like board games played without dice. Particularly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato" title="Plato - Plato attributes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt" title="Egypt - Egypt as the origin of petteia, played in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_century_BC" title="5th century BC - 5th to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_century_BC" title="4th century BC - 4th centuries BC, but nothing more is known about the game (see reference page 261 at http://www.gamesmuseum.uwaterloo.ca/Archives/Austin/index.html" class="external text" title="http://www.gamesmuseum.uwaterloo.ca/Archives/Austin/index.html - Greek Board Games ). Another such ancient Egyptian game was seega (idem, pp. 270-271).


Greece and Rome

Yet another game described by Plato is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece" title="Ancient Greece - ancient Greek battle game poleis, a "fight between two cities" (see pp. 263-265 at http://www.gamesmuseum.uwaterloo.ca/Archives/Austin/index.html" class="external text" title="http://www.gamesmuseum.uwaterloo.ca/Archives/Austin/index.html - Greek Board Games ). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Terentius_Varro" title="Marcus Terentius Varro - Varro (Marcus Terentius) is credited with having documented our earliest record ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_century_BC" title="1st century BC - 1st century BC ) of the Roman battle game, latrunculi (idem, p. 259), commonly confused with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludus_latrunculorum" title="Ludus latrunculorum - ludus latrunculorum (mentioned below). Varro's original reference, posted in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin" title="Latin - Latin , appears at http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/varro.ll10.html" class="external text" title="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/varro.ll10.html - Varro: Lingua Latina X , II, par. 20.

When chess reached http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany" title="Germany - Germany , accidental coincidence of the imported word schach = " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess" title="Chess - chess " and " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check" title="Check - check " with the old native http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language" title="German language - German word schach = " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery" title="Robbery - robbery " led some people when writing in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin" title="Latin - Latin to use the names http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latrunculi" title="Latrunculi - latrunculi and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludus_latrunculorum" title="Ludus latrunculorum - ludus latrunculorum to mean "chess".


Ireland

The main claim for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland" title="Ireland - Irish origin is the claim that two chess tables were bequeathed in the http://www.kinsella.org/history/cathair.htm" class="external text" title="http://www.kinsella.org/history/cathair.htm - will of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathair_Mor" title="Cathair Mor - Cathair Mor who died in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/153" title="153 - 153 CE. The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celt" title="Celt - Celtic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game" title="Game - game of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidchell" title="Fidchell - fidchell is believed to be a battle game, like chess (as opposed to a hunt game, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tafl_games" title="Tafl games - tafl or brandub), and possibly a descendant of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Rome" title="Ancient Rome - Roman game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludus_latrunculorum" title="Ludus latrunculorum - ludus latrunculorum . However, these games were completely unlike chess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_chess - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_chess



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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 08:03

The Origin of Chess

Western Chess Chronicle Vol. 1 July, 1936 No. 9

   Chess, as the world knows it today, has an ancestry clearly definable and easily established. The student of the game's history, indeed, can find a wealth of corroborative evidence to further his efforts in tracing its ancestry, in philology.

   "A Number of the mediaeval European chess terms," writes H.J.R. Murray in his voluminous work, A History of Chess, "can be traced back by way of Arabic to Middle Persian." For his authority Mr. Murray has utilized an elaborate compilation of data from chess literature both in printed and manuscript forms dating as far back as the Egyptian Dynasties.

   He continues: "The name of the game in most of the European languages (e.g. English, 'chess'; French, 'echecs'; Italian, 'scacchi') can be traced back, through the Latin plural 'scaci' ('scachi', scacci', meaning 'chessmen'), to the Arabic and Persian name of the chess King, 'shah'."

   We may find confirmation of this evidence in the fact that the name, "chess", in modern Spanish or Castilian is "ajedrez", and in Portuguese it is "xadrez". Further, we find these two forms in more ancient Castilian as "acedrix", which is nothing more than the Arabic "ash-shatranj", or the "shatranj" in European costume. To proceed one step further back we find "shatranj" to be an "Arabicized form of the Middle Persian 'shatrang'," which in turn is an adaptation of the Sanskrit "chaturanga". "All these terms are in their respective languages the ordinary names for the game of chess."

   To substantiate this process of derivations Mr. Murray makes a most interesting assertion: "This philological evidence derives some support from the documentary evidence. The earliest works which make mention of chess date from about the beginning of the 7th century A. D., and are associated with the northwest India, Persia, and Islam. It is difficult to assign exact dates, but the oldest of a number of nearly contemporary references is generally assumed to be a mention of chess in a Middle Persian romance --the 'Karnamak'-- which is ascribed with some hesitation to the reign of Khusraw II Parwiz, the Sasanian king of Persia, 590-628 A. D. The others belong to northwest India."

   Our game today, as the western world plays it, is one of the two main branches in which it may historically be divided. Our game is known as European chess, or Occidental chess. The second branch is known as Asiatic chess and includes those forms familiar to China and Japan. "Shon-gi" is the Japanese form of chess; "I-go, Wei-Ki" is the ancient Chinese game of chess. In 1904 a Japanese philosopher, Cho-Yo, wrote regarding these games:

   "The Chinese have been for many centuries acquainted with chess under a form not very unlike the Occidental branch of the Chessological game. Yet the rules for playing are very different from those of the Hindostanese and its descendants' modified offsprings, so that it gives us a strong suggestion to let it be a quite, though only apparently, independent origin on account of the peculiar feature of a central space or strip called 'The Sacred Barrier or River'.

   "The origin of the Chinese Chessological game is also of very great antiquity, and the reputation of the inventor of the game for the sake of getting clear riddance of brutal, bloodthirsty struggle….is generally yet fabulously attributed to the great sage Wei Wang, in 1120 B.C.

   "Japanese chess, or 'Shon-gi', is of a very great antiquity, and is a descendant of that which originated at least 5000 years ago."

   Referring again to Mr. Murray's writings, we read:

   "It is interesting to note that early Persian and Arabic tradition is unanimous in ascribing the game of chess to India. The details naturally vary in different works and the names in the tradition are manifestly apocryphal.

   "Chess is usually associated with the decimal numerals as an Indian invention, and its introduction into Persia is persistently connected with the introduction of the book 'Kalila wa Dimna' (the Fables of Pilpay), in the reign of the Sasanian monarch, Khusraw I Nushirwan, 531 A.D., and European scholars of Sanskrit and Persian generally accept the traditional date of the introduction of this book as established. The so-called Arabic numerals are well-known to be really Indian.

   "Finally, a comparison of the arrangement and method of the European game of the 11th and 13th centuries A.D. with the Indian game as existing today and as described in the earlier records supports the same conclusion….

   "We must accordingly conclude that our European chess is a direct descendant of an Indian game played in the 7th century with substantially the same arrangement and method as in Europe five centuries later, the game having been adopted first by the Persians, then handed on by the Persians to the Muslim world, and finally borrowed from Islam by Christian Europe."

   To substantiate the assertions as to the origin of the Asiatic branch of chess, as quoted above from Cho-Yo, Mr. Murray has this to say:

   "Games of a similar nature exist today in other parts of Asia than India, The Burmese 'sittuyin', the Siamese 'makruk', the Annamese 'chhoen trang', the Malay 'chator', the Tibetan 'chandaraki', the Mongol 'shatara', the Chinese 'siang k'i', the Corean 'tjyang keui', and the Japanese 'sho-gi', are all war games exhibiting the same great diversity of pieces which is the most distinctive feature of chess.

   "There is naturally far less direct evidence respecting the ancestry of these games than in the case of European chess, but there can be no doubt that all these games are descended from the sam original Indian game. The names 'sittuyin'' (Burmese), 'chhoen trang' (Annamese), and 'chandaraki' (Tibetan) certainly, and the names 'chator' (Malay) and 'shatara' (Mongol) probably, reproduce the Sanskrit 'chaturanga'…."

   In respect to the arrangement of pieces and board in the Malay, Tibetan and Mongol games Mr. Murray points out that they are identified very closely with the Indian game, but he further comments that the relation of the Chinese, Corean, and Japanese games are "not so obvious." He leaves no doubt, however, that both the Corean and Japanese games are derivatives of the older form of the Chinese game. Mention is made of Chinese writings which refer to the introduction of modifications in their game about 1279 B.C. Such coincidental features as the Chariot with the move of the Rook occupying the corner squares, and the Horse with the characteristic move of the Knight occupying adjoining squares indicate, and not accidentally, that the Chinese games are of Indian origin.

   In summarizing, we find this salient and self-evident fact. To again use Mr. Murray's words: "The broad lines of the diffusion of chess from India are fairly clear. Its earliest advance was probably westwards to Persia; the eastward advance appears to have been rather later, and at least three lines of advance may be traced." The first group, we are able to clearly trace, carried the game by Kashmir to the far east via China, Korea, and Japan. The second line, and most probably the same by which Buddhism traveled, carried the game to Further India (where it took on dissimilar features to that of Indian chess). Somewhat later the game spread from the southeast coast of India to the Malay Peninsula. How the game may have reached Tibet and the northern tribes of Asia is yet in doubt. Very ancient Persian manuscripts have revealed that the Zoroastrians had meanwhile passed on chess to the Eastern Roman Empire, and, further documents also disclose that, resulting from the Mohammedan conquest of Persia, Islam acquainted herself with the game. Following this period the Muslims became the most prolific pioneers of chess, thus bringing into being the first concepts of the Occidental branch, and carrying their game as far west as Spain and as far east as India where they ascribed the Arabic nomenclature on the Northern and Central provinces of the peninsula. There is in existence pronounced evidence of the fact that Christian Europe took up the study of chess from the Moors as early as 1000 A.D. Upon gaining a foothold on the Mediterranean shores, it gradually spread northward over France and Germany to Great Britain, to Scandinavia, and to Iceland.

   Archeological discoveries have brought to light chess pieces and boards found in tombs as old as the pre-dynastic period which dates back to about 4000 B.C. At King's College, London, in July, 1909, there was on display at the annual exhibition of the Egypt Exploration Fund a clay gaming board, measuring 7 inches by 2 1/2 inches, with three rows of six squares and eleven conical pieces varying in height from one-half inch to one inch, taken from a pre-dynastic tomb at El-Mahasna, which lies eight miles north of Abydos. The tomb is presumed to have been the burial-place of a medicine man or magician.

   There have also been found in tombs of the Fifth Dynasty, about 3600-3400 B.C., paintings on which were depicted early inhabitants of Egypt playing at chess. Chess games are mentioned in the earliest Buddhist literature of India, which manuscripts date back to about 500 B.C.

   A wealth of archeological discoveries, and a vast collection of Sanskrit, Indian, and especially Persian literature conclusively prove that the origin of chess dates back to the beginning of civilization itself.

http://www.chessdryad.com/articles/wcc/transcribed/origin.htm - http://www.chessdryad.com/articles/wcc/transcribed/origin.ht m



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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 08:29

The Persian Chatrang ( and the Indian Chaturanga) had already two armies of 16 pieces each, with a familiar set-up, on an uncheckered 64 cases board :

Each side has :
· 1 Shah, whose capture is the aim of the game and which moves 1 step in all direction as our King.
· 1 Vizier (Farzin, Firzan in Arab), close to the Shah and which moves 1 step diagonally.
· 2 Elephants (Pil, Fil in Arab) which moves diagonally 2 steps, leaping over the intermediate case if occupied.
· 2 Horses (Asp, Faras in Arab) moving obliquely exactly as our modern Knights.
· 2 Chariots (Rukh in Persian and Arab) which have exactly the orthogonal move of our Rooks.
· 8 Soldiers (Piyadah, Baidaq in Arab) which move 1 step straight ahead (never 2) and capture diagonally ahead as our modern Pawn. When reaching the last row, they are promoted to Farzin.

 

In China, the earliest description of Xiangqi, with all its pieces, are more recent. They are from Bei Song Dynasty, around 1000 A.D. and depicted the modern Xiangqi already. They are two armies, one blue and one red, with 16 pieces placed on the intersections of a 8 x 9 cases board, then 9 x 10 points :

· 1 General (Jiang for blue, Shuai for red) whose capture was here again the aim of the game and which moves 1 step, orthogonally only. It is confined to the 9 points of its citadel.
· 2 Advisors or Mandarins (Shi), also confined in the palace and which moves 1 step diagonally.
· 2 Ministers for blue, or 2 Elephants for red (both named Xiang but with different ideograms) which move 2 steps diagonally. They can not jump and are not allowed to enter the opposite half-board.
· 2 Horses (Ma) whose move is similar to that of our Knights with, maybe already, the impossibility of jumping over the first leg case if it is occupied.
· 2 Chariots (Ju) strictly equivalent again to our Rooks at the corners of the board.
. 2 Cannons (Pao) placed before most of the troops on the third row
· 5 Soldiers (Zu for blue, Bing for red) which step 1 case straight ahead as long as they are in their own half of the board, then which can also move 1 case sideways when they have penetrated the opposite camp. This is their only form of promotion. As all the other pieces, their move and capture are identical.



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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 08:31

http://history.chess.free.fr/afrasiab.htm -  
 7 pieces set, ivory , dated 6 to 8th c., found at
http://history.chess.free.fr/afrasiab.htm - , near Samarkand, Uzbekistan State Museum of Samarkand
Earliest known Chess pieces.

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/knight2-afrasiab-6.jpg -
Isolated Knight found in Afrasiab, bone, 6 to 7th c.

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/firzan-metropolitan.jpg -
Ivory piece most probably dated from 11th c but Linder thinks that 7 to 8th c is more accurate. Found in Saqqizabad, Iran and very similar to the Vizier of the Afrasiab set. Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York.

  http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/BM-Samarkand-7-8th.jpg -
Chariot-rook(?) from Samarkand, 7-8th c, ivory. ( http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/compass/ixbin/goto?id=OBJ2145 - )

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/fil-7-8th-mma.jpg -
Fil (Elephant/Bishop), origine unknown (Iran, Irak, India?), 7th-8th c.?, The Metropolitan Museum of Art


Rock crystal, 800 AD. Found at Basra, South Iraq.

 

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/rook-8-10th.jpg -
Rukh, origin unknown, 8th-10th c., ivory
The Metropolitan Museum Of Art

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/shah-iran-8-10th.jpg -
Shah, Iran, 8th-10th c., carved jet
The Metropolitan Museum Of Art 

 

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/nishapur-rook-9th.jpg -
Iranian Rook from Nishapur, 9th c.

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/lebanon-10th.jpg -
Chess piece (?) in glass, Lebanon, 10th c.

 

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/nishapur-9-12th.jpg -
Shah / Shah / Rukh / Fil

Nishapur pieces, Tepe Madrasa, Iran, 9th-12th century
ivory with traces of green, The Metropolitan Museum Of Art. 

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/nishapur-12th-mma.jpg -
Anoth Nishapur set, Iran, 1éth century, composite body, glazed
unique almost complete set from the Seljuk period
The Metropolitan Museum of Art

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/Egypte-1.jpg -
Rook, Egypt, Islamic period

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/Egypte-2.jpg -
Chess piece (King ?), Egypt, Islamic period

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/islamic%20piece-11-12th.jpg -
Rukh or Knight, origin unknown, 11th-12th c., carved ivory
The Metropolitan Museum of Art


Shah, Egypt or Syria, Mamluk period, 13th-14th c., glass
The Metropolitan Museum of Art 

 

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/medieval/Florence-Byzantine.jpg - http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/Elephant-Irak-10th.jpg -
Two Rooks, Byzantine art. The Elephant was found in Iraq and is from 10th c.
Museo Bargello, Florence, Italy

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/s71-arabic-cristal-13e.jpg -
Pawn, Shah, Vizir, Knights and Rook, Arabic chess set, Rock-crystal and smoken topaz, 13th.c,
Topkapi Palace Museum, Istanbul, Turkiye
 

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/elephant-sarkel-9.jpg -
Elephant in ivory found in ancint Khazar fortress of Sarkel, dated 8 to 10th c.,
Ermitage, St Petersburg, Russia. Proves that Chess came in Russia by the Caspian-Volga route.

 

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/king-slutsk-12.jpg -
 King, ivory, 12th c, Slutsk, Belarus, Bielorussian Academy of Sciences, Minsk

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/queen-lukoml-12.jpg -
Queen, ivory, 12th c, Lukoml, Belarus, State Museum of Belarus

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/ladya-volkovysk-12.jpg -
 Boat (Rook), ivory, beg 12th c, Volkovysk, Belarus, Bielorussian Art Museum, Minsk

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/persian/pawn-volkovysk-12.jpg -
 Pawn, ivory, beg 12th c, Volkovysk, Belarus, Bielorussian Art Museum, Minsk 



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Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 08:55
Indian

however it was spread by Persians. Actually checkmate in Armenian is a Persian word I believe.

Shaxmat: Shax - Shah
         &nbs p;      Mat - Death

thus Checkmate = Shaxmat (in Armenian) = Death of the Shah (or the Death of the King)




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Posted By: Maziar
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 11:45
Mat doesn't mean dead, it means numb. The earlier player have had full respect for chess, specially for the king piece.

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Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 20:38
Oh really? My coach has told me mat means death, oh well, learn something new everyday.

what do you mean by "The earlier player have had full respect for chess, specially for the king piece"?

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Posted By: Iranian41ife
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 20:54
he means that the players back then had more respect for the game and the pieces (which supposedly symbolised certain things, for example the shah piece (king)) unlike today, where we only play it for fun and the pieces dont really mean anything to us.

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"If they attack Iran, of course I will fight. But I will be fighting to defend Iran... my land. I will not be fighting for the government and the nuclear cause." ~ Hamid, veteran of the Iran Iraq War


Posted By: malizai_
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 21:05

Originally posted by mamikon

Indian

however it was spread by Persians. Actually checkmate in Armenian is a Persian word I believe.

Shaxmat: Shax - Shah
         &n bs p;      Mat - Death

thus Checkmate = Shaxmat (in Armenian) = Death of the Shah (or the Death of the King)


Nice insight mamikon



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Posted By: Iranian41ife
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2006 at 21:07
the word check mate is also derived from the persian term used.

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"If they attack Iran, of course I will fight. But I will be fighting to defend Iran... my land. I will not be fighting for the government and the nuclear cause." ~ Hamid, veteran of the Iran Iraq War


Posted By: Maziar
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 01:39

Originally posted by prsn41ife

he means that the players back then had more respect for the game and the pieces (which supposedly symbolised certain things, for example the shah piece (king)) unlike today, where we only play it for fun and the pieces dont really mean anything to us.

Yes , right. due to this respect they never dare to say the king is dead.



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Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 09:51
well why do you think Armenians gave a damn about the Shah of Persia?


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Posted By: Maziar
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 14:07

I am sure they won't  they have their own king.



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Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 15:18
at times...lol

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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 16:01
Ancient board games from which chess no doubt chess is a derivative have been fouind in Sumerian and Burnt city excavations. dice have even been uncovered at the burnt city.

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Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 17:14
yup! I have heard of that too, but I havent seen a comparison between
chess and those board games. I dont think its possible that the board
games spread from Sumer to India, however it is possible, that board
games were prevalent in both regions, and arose independently.

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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 17:25
Burn t city is in Iran and the board game bears a marked resemblence to the Sumerian game.

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Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 18:35
oh the city is called "Burnt"?

sorry I thought they found the board game from city that has been
burned down.

by "board game" do you mean chess specifically?

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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2006 at 18:58
World's oldest backgammon discoverd in Burnt city
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&KW=back -  http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32 70&KW=back


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Posted By: Apples n Oranges
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 13:48

I found some interesting articles on origin of chess.Please take a look.

Originally posted by CHESS

The Origin of Chess

By Sam Sloan

Copyright December 14, 1985 by Sam Sloan

Sloan Publishers

ISBN 0-9609190-1-5


In the mid-1950's, the most popular television program for a time was called the "$64,000 Question". Contestants, who were said to be carefully screened in advance and were experts, but not professionals, in their chosen fields, were asked questions of increasing difficulty. This was the first of the great popular TV game shows. First, there was the $64 question. If that was answered correctly, the contestant could quit and take his money, or go for double. The bets went from $64 to $128, $256, $512, $1000, $2,000, $4,000, $8,000, $16,000, $32,000 and $64,000.

Most contestants went high on the scale, and the tension and excitement increased from week to week as they moved towards their goals. I only saw it happen once that a contestant actually missed the first $64 question.

On that occasion, a boy of around twelve years old was brought out. His subject was chess. He was, of course, billed as a prodigy of the game. As usual, the moderator started with a relatively easy $64 question. "Where was chess invented?", the moderator asked.

"In China," the boy replied.

"Wrong!", said the moderator. "The correct answer is India."

With that, the boy was quickly hustled off the stage. This supposed child prodigy was never seen or heard from in the world of chess again.

http://www.samsloan.com/origin.htm - http://www.samsloan.com/origin.htm

To the Question of the Origin of Chess

Yuri Averbakh,Moscow, 1999

Starting this study the author proceeded from the following thesis:

The history of chess cannot be studied without a proper knowledge of the history of other board games. First it it necessary to observe the games which had come into existence before chess appeared. Only after that we are able to understand the sources and reasons which guided to the origin of chess.

The history of games in Old India shows that much simpler games were in existence before a complicated war game came into being. In particular, the direct predecessor was asthapada - a fourhanded race game on an 8x8 board where the movement of the game pieces was determined by the throw of dice.

H.J.R. Murray (1913) asserted flatly the following:

"The theory that chess is a development of an earlier race game involves the hypothesis that some reformer changed the whole nomenclature in order to make it self-assistent as a war game and secured the agreement of all his contemporaries. I find this hypothesis incredible".

Nevertheless, it is not too hard to prove the possibility of such a transition though it should have taken rather a long time and consisted of several intermediate stages.

A very important fact helped this transition. For one of the highest castes of the Indian society the representatives of the military aristocracy - Ksatriyas - the challenge to a gambling match was equal to the challenge to a duel. This testifies to the fact that a game of dice was put on the same footing as a battle. The Ksatriyan used to have battles on chariot races were their favourite pastime (side by side with gambling) in time of peace.

My hypothesis is that the new race game was built up on the races of chariots.

In the course of the game two chariots could be placed on the same square. This then led to a conflict. In the race game this problem was solved easily. The first chariot was taken off the board and it had to start the race from the very beginning. From here, there is only one step to another idea - the chariots start fighting one another. The first chariot perishes and it is removed from the board and cannot return. In this way the Ksatriya`s war game could appear as the battle of chariots.

The reform considered above could take place on the same board and it may be quite possible that the name of the game did not change. It preserved the same name ashtapada. This explains the silence of the literary sources.

Another natural step was the appearance of all types of the Indian military forces on the board - chariots, elephants, cavalry and infantry. Chaturanga completely was built up on ashtapada. This war game was (like ashtapada) a fourhanded game.

We also have to take the political situation into consideration. The fourhanded game, which appeared in the country divided into separate kingdoms could easily become a game for two players in the Empire. In short: there were reasons to turn a fourhanded game into a twohanded and so it happened.

Especially interesting is the question how the concept of checkmate appeared in the war game when the fall of the ruler meant the loss of the game.

Much ink has been wasted on this problem but nobody has yet given a satisfactory explanation. I believe it was hidden in the well-known text of al-Biruni`s India. Speaking about a fourhanded game with dice he saw in lace>Indialace> al-Biruni informs us of the following.

"The pieces have certain values according to which the player gets his share of the stakes; for the pieces are taken and passed into the hands of the player. The value of the King is 5, that of the Elephant 4, of the Horse 3, of the Rook 2, of the Pawn 1. He who takes a King gets 5, for two kings he gets 10, for three kings 15, if the winner is no longer in the possession of his own king. And if he still has his own King and takes all three kings, he gets 54 - number which represents a progression based on the general consent and not on an algebraic principle".

It is not difficult to calculate that 54 is a maximum of the points which a player can take if he is in the possession of all three opponent`s forces including the kings. The algebraic principle here is strictly observed: 5+4+3+2+4=18; 18x3=54. With the general consent a rule was adopted - the capture of the three kings with one`s own king on the board gave a maximum number of points. That meant victory and the end of the game.

http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-jostenge/index.htm - http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-jostenge/index.htm

THE BIRTHPLACE OF CHESS - Some Reflections

Kenneth Whyld,Caistor, Great Britain, 1996

The Arguments for lace>Indialace>

 1.Etymology. The earliest chess terms appear to be Sanskrit. Murray shows that Pahlavi words in the game are adapted from Sanskrit, and the Arabic in turn from Pahlavi.

2. The Firdausi legend. It describes the arrival of chess from lace>Indialace>, although written long after the events which it claims to depict. That this provenance was not at the time disputed by Persians (or Arabs) convinced Murray that it had a factual basis.

3. Fables. Much of the folk-lore about the birth of chess is from in the sub-continent.

http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-jostenge/index.htm - http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-jostenge/index.htm

ORIGIN AND EVOLUTION OF CHESS

Alex Kraaijeveld

Chess as a game is similar to a biological species or a language in that it can evolve (and obviously, this holds for board games in general). As a result of one or more changes in the rules of play, a particular chess variant can change into another. If such a new chess 'species' improves the play in the eyes of the players, the new variant will replace the old one, which may go extinct.

There is a large body of literature on the origin and evolution of chess and chess-like games; much larger than on all other board games put together. The core questions are where and when chess originated and how it subsequently spread over the world. So far, research has focussed on two sources of information: archaeological finds and literary sources. Because of the similarity of chess variants to biological species, phylogenetic thinking can be applied to them, providing a potential new source of information.

The most hotly debated issue among chess historians is where and when chess originated. The traditional view is that chess originated in India in the late 6th or early 7th century.

In any phylogenetic analysis, the polarity of the characters is a crucial aspect. Shared apomorphies suggest relatedness, shared plesiomorphies do not. This can be used to investigate the question of the origin of chess: using the 'wrong' ancestor (i.e. getting apo- and plesiomorphies the wrong way around) will give rise to a nonsense tree. I did an analysis on 40 different chess variants from around the world, using 109 'morphological' and 'physiological' characters. I forced several hypothetical ancestors (from India and China) upon the analysis and compared the resulting trees with historical evidence. These analyses suggest that it is more likely that chess originated in India than in China.

 

 

 

 

The tree shown is the one which fits best with historical evidence on the subsequent spread of chess around the world; Chaturanga is an ancient Indian variant, traditionally seen as the ancestor of chess or close to it. The analysis is published in Board Games Studies (2000; 3: 39-50). Full details can be found there; alternatively, mailto:a.kraayeveld@imperial.ac.uk - e-mail me for a copy of the paper.

The next step, which is in progress at the moment, will be to use more sophisticated phylogenetic analyses and actually try and reconstruct the ancestor of chess. This work is done together with mailto:r.belshaw@imperial.ac.uk - Robert Belshaw , a phylogenetic expert and colleague of mine.

http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-jostenge/index.htm - http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-jostenge/index.htm

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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 15:06
yes, most beleive it's Indian & also I'm looking for Shatrang namak book.
It's Sassanid book about methods of play, It would clear the orgin, Indian or Iranian


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Posted By: yazzmode621
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 18:43
I've heard before that it was originally a four player game in India and the persians altered it and made the current two player chess game we play today. 


Posted By: Decebal
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 22:19

It is worth looking at chess as representing war. We will then see that it fits Indian warfare very well. The pawns are the great masses of infantry: slow and ineffective but valuable for their sheer numbers and for support roles. The horse: representing knights- capable of quickly occupying ciritcal spots on the battlefield. The rook, or siege tower: slow to move in the beginning of the battle but valuable if the war drags on. The queen or vizier representing the small but elite professional army or palace guards. And the king: slow but holding the whole army together by his influence. In Indian warfare, if the king was captured, all was lost.

I would think that an Iranian game would have somewhat less emphasis on infantry, elephants and siege towers, and more emphasis on cavalry. I don't find the points in the original article particularly convincing. I would say that chess originated in India and it was taken and perhaps modified by the Iranians.



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Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 23:36
interesting observations Decebal

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Posted By: Death
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2006 at 23:36
Maybe the answer is in that evolution of the game.And chess is one of those games that,wait,chess is the only mind game,unique,a game that by folk legend was a creation of a prisoner serving time in a jail and saving his everyday bread to make the peaces to play with(im sure you all know the story if you know how to play chess).When you realy gett deep into it you could say that it was a creation of a alien nature.
tamble();Defenetly it is creation of one inteligent being,if it was a man i beleve that he himself didnt know the full potential of what he/she had created.
Artefical inteligense is tested on this game(think about it).
I take you are all serious people and i will not take sides.I was tought that it began in a land that had a sah(or shah,i dont know).The concept is that the board is the world-flat plate and that two armies batle one another.
ALIENS man ,and all this time i was thinking that they are here to do good but they are trying to devide us,...lol, and i heard that they didnt want chess  to have flying peaces (UFO)in the old days.


Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 05:38
Does any Iranian know that a safavvi shah played chess against Yavuz Sultan Selim (Selim I) padishah of the Ottomans?

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Posted By: Apples n Oranges
Date Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 10:42

Originally posted by yazzmode621

I've heard before that it was originally a four player game in India and the persians altered it and made the current two player chess game we play today. 

It seems you are right Yazzmode.Some information on Chaturanga and Chaturanga rules.

The Sanskrit name Chaturanga means 'quadripartite' (divided into four parts) and was also used to describe the Indian army of Vedic times in which a platoon had four parts: one elephant, one chariot, three soldiers on horseback, and five foot-soldiers. The board was known as the 'ashtapada' (eight-square) and is believed to have been adopted from an older race game related to parcheesi.

The date of the game's origin is uncertain, but documentary evidence exists from c. AD 620 in the form of a Sanskrit document, Vasavadatta from Subhandu which describes what could be chess pieces. Another document, dated from between 750 AD and 850 AD is Chatrang-namak by Pahlavi which describes the arrival of Chatranga to the court of Persia with an Indian embassy. The authenticity of the latter account is doubted by some.

The pieces were raja (king), mantri (counsellor, ancestor of the ferz), gaja (elephant, later called fil), asva (horse), ratha (chariot, later called rook), and pedati (infantry or pawns).

Sources:

The Oxford Companion to Chess (second edition), David Hooper, Kenneth Whyld

The Oxford History of Board Games, David Parlett

The Encyclopedia of Chess Variants, D. B. Pritchard

Old Texts, Jean-Louis Cazaux

http://www.chessvariants.org/historic.dir/chaturanga.html - http://www.chessvariants.org/historic.dir/chaturanga.html

Chaturanga for four players

Basic variant

The game is played on a board of eight by eight squares. The squares are not checkered. The game is played by four players, who form two teams of two players. However, rules allow to win individually, and partnerships may be quite loose. The player with the red pieces plays with the player with the yellow pieces, and the player with the green pieces plays with the player with the black pieces.

Opening setup

Players have each one king, one elephant or rook, one knight, one boat, and four pawns. The opening setup is displayed below. Players move clockwise: starting with red, then green, yellow, black, etc.

Black: King a5; Rook a6; Knight a7; Boat a8; Pawn b5, b6, b7, b8.

Red: King e8; Rook f8; Knight g8; Boat h8; Pawn e7, f7, g7, h7.

Green: King h4; Rook h3; Knight h2; Boat h1; Pawn g1, g2, g3, g4.

Yellow: King d1; Rook c1; Knight b1; Boat a1; Pawn a2, b2, c2, d2.

Moves of pieces

The king, rook, and knight move as in orthodox chess. Pawns move as in orthodox chess, but have no initial double move, and more complicated promotion rules. Pawns move in the expected direction, i.e., every pawn must move 6 times to get to their final rank. There is no castling.

The boat jumps two squares diagonally. All pieces take as they move, with one addition special case, called the triumph of the boat. When a boat moves to form a square of four boats, then he takes the other three.

Look at the following example.

Boats on d4, d5, e5. A boat on g7 moves to e5.

When the boat on g7 moves to e5, then it takes the other three boats with this move. This special case is unlikely to happen.

Promotion rules

Promotion rules are complicated. The type of piece to which a pawn can promote, when it reaches the last rank, depends on the field where it comes: one looks to which type of piece is on that row/column on the initial position, and that is the type of piece the pawn promotes to (but see also below!) To be precise:

  • On a1, a8, h1, h8, a pawn promotes to boat.
  • On a2, a7, b1, b8, g1, g8, h2, h7, a pawn promotes to knight.
  • On a3, a6, c1, c8, f1, f8, h3, h6, a pawn promotes to rook.
  • On a4, a5, d1, d8, e1, e8, h4, h5, a pawn promotes to king.

However, when a player owns three or four pawns, a pawn may not promote. Also, when a player has one or two pawns, he may promote to knight and rook. Only when a player owns one pawn and at most one boat, and no other pieces except his king, the pawn may promote to any type of piece (depending on the square, as above.)

In all cases, when a pawn reaches the final rank but may not promote, then the pawn stays as a pawn on the square on the final row. As soon as he may promote, the pawn is changed into the respective piece. In the mean time, the pawn can be taken.

About kings, wins and losses

Kings can be taken as any other type of piece. The player who loses his king may not move. His pieces remain on the board and can be taken. When his partner takes another king, then kings can be exchanged. The players who receive their kings back put these on an empty square of their own choice. A king that is taken for the second time is definitely lost, and cannot be exchanged anymore. The exchange can be demanded by the player who took the second king, but not by any other player.

A player that moves his king to the starting square (called throne) of another player wins a single stake. The game continues then. (One can get only one such stake per opponent.) When a player moves his king to the throne (starting square) of his partners king, then he takes command over the pieces of the partner, (hence he moves twice per round). Who moves his king to the throne of an opponent, and with doing so also takes this king, wins a double stake. (This mainly would happen in the variant with dice.)

When a player has lost all his pieces except his king, the game is a draw. When such a draw happens by moving a piece to an opponents throne, the stake for this moving is still given.

When only one king is left on the board, then this player wins the game (a single stake). When he has taken all other kings with his own king, he wins a double stake. When this has happened on their thrones, he wins a fourfold stake.

Variant with dice

While the game, described above, can well be played without dice, it is assumed that the common form was to play it with dice.

Each turn, a player throws with two (long) dices, that could give as outcome a 2, 3, 4 or 5. When the player throws a 2, he may move with his boat. When a player throws a 3, he may move with his knight. When a player throws a 4, he may move with his rook. When a player throws a 5, he may move with his king or pawn.

A player can make no moves, one move, or two moves in a turn. When his dice are unlucky enough to make moving unable (for instance, when a player throws a double-four on his first move), then he cannot move, and his turn is lost. In other cases, a player could use one, or both his dice rolls. When throwing a double, a player may move the same piece twice, or move two different pieces, if possible.

A player may decide not to use part or all of his roll, if he thinks that this is better for his position.

Variant for gamblers

The Arabian Abu'r-Raihan Muhammad b. Ahmad al-Beruni who lived from 973 to 1048 wrote several books, including one about India. In this book, he describes a somewhat different variant of 4-handed Chaturanga. The game here has a large element of gambling in it.

The description below is based on my own interpretation of certain texts, given by Murray in his http://www.chessvariants.org/books.html#bookmurray - History of Chess .

Pieces and opening setup are the same as in the games, described above. Each player plays for himself.

Players throw with two six-sided dice, and move, similar as above: with a 1 or 5, the king or a pawn is moved; with a 2 the boat is moved, with a 3 the knight, and with a 4 or 6 the rook (elephant). As before can a player make 0, 1 or 2 moves, as he, and the dice wish.

Each piece has a certain value. The king has value 5, the elephant has value 4, the knight has value 3, the boat has value 2, and pawns have value 1 each. Each player keeps all the pieces that he has taken, and gets these paid at the end of the game from the respective owners, for a price per point which was agreed upon at the start of the game.

However, when a player has taken all three opponents kings, while his own king is not taken, then he gets paid the total value of all opponents pieces, which is 54. He still has to pay his own pieces, which is at most 13, so he wins in this case at least 41.

Kings are taken as any other piece. When a king is taken, the player continues with his other pieces as normal. When long enough, nothing interesting has happened in the game, the players should decide on ending the game, and pieces are paid out.

Modern variant

At least until the end of the 19th century, a variant of 4-handed Chaturanga was played in several parts of India.

The game is played without dice. Pieces move as in the games described above.

Players form two teams of two players. Red and yellow form a team, and green and black form a team.

Kings are not exchanged. The first team that has taken both opponents kings wins the game.

Some rules are not clear. My suggestions: a player can still move his pieces after his king is taken. Pawns promote to any of the three types: rook, knight or boat, as wished by the player, and not depending on the number of pieces still owned by that player.


Written by Hans Bodlaender.


WWW page created: 1995. Last modified: February 9, 1998.


The above was authored by: http://www.chessvariants.org/index/displayperson.php?personid=HansBodlaender - Hans L. Bodlaender . .

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Posted By: yazzmode621
Date Posted: 16-Apr-2006 at 21:25
Originally posted by Apples n Oranges

Originally posted by yazzmode621

I've heard before that it was originally a four player game in India and the persians altered it and made the current two player chess game we play today. 

It seems you are right Yazzmode.Some information on Chaturanga and Chaturanga rules.

Of course I am.



Posted By: mamikon
Date Posted: 16-Apr-2006 at 21:38
Originally posted by Death

Maybe the answer is in that evolution of the
game.And chess is one of those games that,wait,chess is the
only mind game,unique,a game that by folk legend was a
creation of a prisoner serving time in a jail and saving his
everyday bread to make the peaces to play with(im sure you all
know the story if you know how to play chess).When you realy
gett deep into it you could say that it was a creation of a alien
nature.tamble();Defenetly it is creation of one inteligent being,if
it was a man i beleve that he himself didnt know the full
potential of what he/she had created.Artefical inteligense is
tested on this game(think about it).I take you are all serious
people and i will not take sides.I was tought that it began in a
land that had a sah(or shah,i dont know).The concept is that the
board is the world-flat plate and that two armies batle one
another.ALIENS man ,and all this time i was thinking that they
are here to do good but they are trying to devide us,...lol, and i
heard that they didnt want chess  to have flying peaces (UFO)in
the old days.




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Posted By: Iranian41ife
Date Posted: 16-Apr-2006 at 22:04
i believe that it was invented in india but the version we play today is the iranian one, which was adopted from india and then modified.

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Posted By: Apples n Oranges
Date Posted: 17-Apr-2006 at 09:20

Originally posted by Iranian41ife

i believe that it was invented in india but the version we play today is the iranian one, which was adopted from india and then modified.

You may be right Iranian.Have you ever played Ludo.Did you notice the similarity between Ludo and Chaturanga.I think Ludo is a simplified version of Chaturanga.What's you view.

Originally posted by Ludo

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Ludo_board.svg/383px-Ludo_board.svg.png - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Lud o_board.svg/383px-Ludo_board.svg.png



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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 17-Apr-2006 at 09:56
from wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess

Many countries claim to have invented the chess game in some incipient form. However the most commonly held view among historians is that chess originated in ancient http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran" title="Iran - Iran , which included vast stretches of the ancient world inluding modern day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India" title="India - India (known then as Hindustan), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan - Pakistan , and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan" title="Afghanistan - Afghanistan to name only a few -- it should be noted that any modern or ancient state that has a "-stan" suffix was once part of the ancient Persian empire as "-stan" translates to "state" or "province." The earliest mention of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatranj" title="Shatranj - Shatranj or alternatively http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaturanga" title="Chaturanga - Chaturanga , or any version of chess, appears in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit" title="Sanskrit - Sanskrit epic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata" title="Mahabharata - Mahabharata , written circa 500 BC. The oldest known chess pieces have been found in excavations of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohenjo-daro" title="Mohenjo-daro - Moen jo Daro in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindh" title="Sindh - Sindh dated to 3000 BC, during which time the Persians inhabited the area. One ancient text refers to Shah Ardashir, who ruled 224 - 241 AD, as a master of the game.

Chess eventually spread westward to Europe and eastward as far as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan" title="Japan - Japan , spawning variants as it went. One theory suggests that it migrated from India to Persia, where its terminology was translated into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language" title="Persian language - Persian and it name changed to chatrang. The entrance of chess into Europe, notably, is marked by a massive improvement in the powers of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_%28chess%29" title="Queen (chess) - queen . The oldest known texts describing chess seem to indicate a bi-directional spread from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_empire" title="Persian empire - Persian empire . From Persia it entered the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_world" title="Islamic world - Islamic world , where the names of its pieces largely remained in their Persian forms in early Islamic times. Its name became http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatranj" title="Shatranj - Shatranj , which continued in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language" title="Spanish language - Spanish as ajedrez and in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" title="Greek language - Greek as zatrikion, but in most of Europe was replaced by versions of the Persian word shāh = "king".

There is a theory that this name replacement happened because, before the game of chess came to Europe, merchants coming to Europe brought ornamental chess kings as curiosities and with them their name shāh, which Europeans mispronounced in various ways.

  • Checkmate: This is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language" title="English language - English rendition of shāh māt, which is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language" title="Persian language - Persian for "the king is finished".
  • Rook: From the Persian rukh, which means "chariot", but also means "cheek" (part of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face" title="Face - face ). The piece resembles a siege tower. It is also believed that it was named after the mythical Persian bird of great power called the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roc" title="Roc - roc . In India, the piece is more popularly called haathi, which means "elephant".
  • Bishop. From the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language" title="Persian language - Persian pīl means "the elephant", but in Europe and the western part of the Islamic world people knew little or nothing about elephants, and the name of the chessman entered Western Europe as Latin alfinus and similar, a word with no other meaning (in Spanish, for example, it evolved to the name "alfil"). This word "alfil" is actually the Arabic for "elephant", where "al" means "the" and fil means "elephant". The Spanish word would most certainly have been taken from the Islamic provinces of Spain. The English name "bishop" is a rename inspired by the conventional shape of the piece which resembles the tusk of an elephant and the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitre" title="Mitre - mitre of a bishop.
  • Queen. Persian farzīn = " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizier" title="Vizier - vizier " became Arabic firzān, which entered western European languages as forms such as alfferza, fers, etc but was later replaced by "queen".

The game spread throughout the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam" title="Islam - Islamic world after the Muslim conquest of Persia. Chess eventually reached http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia" title="Russia - Russia via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolia" title="Mongolia - Mongolia , where it was played at the beginning of the 7th century. It was introduced into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain" title="Spain - Spain by the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors" title="Moors - Moors in the 10th century, and described in a famous 13th century manuscript covering chess, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backgammon" title="Backgammon - backgammon , and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice" title="Dice - dice named the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libro_de_los_juegos" title="Libro de los juegos - Libro de los juegos . Chess also found its way across http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia" title="Siberia - Siberia into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska" title="Alaska - Alaska .



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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 17-Apr-2006 at 09:59
Timeline:
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=10ao5d1ikie42?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Timeline+of+chess&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc06b - http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=10ao5d1ikie42 ?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Timeline+of+chess&curt ab=2222_1&sbid=lc06b

Early history

  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=6th+century&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 6th century - alleged inception (in northwest http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=India&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - India ) of http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Chaturanga&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - Chaturanga ---- the chess variant popularly recognized as having spawned "Western" chess, a theory that modern scholars now view with reserve. See http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Origins+of+chess&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - origins of chess .
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=600&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 600 http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Common+Era&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - CE - A reference in the Karnamuk-i-Artakhshatr-i-Papakan is the earliest surviving literary evidence of "Western" Chess.
  • ca. http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=720&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 720 CE - Chess is brought to the Muslim world.
  • ca. http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=840&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 840 CE - Earliest surviving chess problems by Caliph Billah of http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Baghdad&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - Baghdad .
  • ca. http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=900&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 900 CE - Entry on Chess in the http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=China&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - Chinese work Huan Kwai Lu ('Book of Marvels').
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=997&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 997 CE - http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Versus+de+scachis&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - Versus de scachis is the earliest known work mentioning chess in Christian Western Europe.
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=1008&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 1008 - Mention of chess in the will of Count Uregel, another early reference.
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=10th+century&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 10th century - http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Abu-Bakr+Muhammad+ben+Yahya+as-Suli&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - As-Suli writes Kitab Ash-Shatranj, the earliest known work to take a scientific approach to chess strategy.
  • late http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=10th+century&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 10th century - Dark and light squares are introduced on a chessboard.
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=1173&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 1173 - Earliest recorded use of http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Algebraic+chess+notation&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - algebraic notation .
  • late http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=13th+century&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 13th century - Pawns can now move two ranks on first move.
  • late http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=14th+century&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 14th century - The http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Pawn+%28chess%29&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - en passant rule is introduced.
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=1422&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 1422 - A manuscript from http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Krak%C3%B3w&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - Kraków sets the rule that http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Stalemate&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - stalemate is a draw.
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=1471&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 1471 - The Gottingen manuscript is the first book to deal solely with chess.
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=1474&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 1474 - http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=William+Caxton&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - William Caxton publishes The Game and Playe of Chesse, the first chess book in English.
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=1497&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 1497 - http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Luis+Ramirez+Lucena&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - Lucena publishes the first European work on chess openings.
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=1561&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 1561 - http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Ruy+L%C3%B3pez+de+Segura&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - Ruy López coins the word gambit to describe opening sacrifices.
  • http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=1690&curtab=2222_1" class="ilnk" target="_top" onclick="addLinkTextToHref(this); - 1690 - Openings are now systematically classified by the Traite de Lausanne.




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Posted By: Apples n Oranges
Date Posted: 17-Apr-2006 at 10:21

Some more articles on origin of Chess

The History and Origin of Chess
 
 
The early history and origin of chess has been one of the most controversial topics of gaming history ("chronogamology" if you will), where chess came from has been the subject of legends since written records of chess began. While many websites claim that chess was invented at a particular time and place, in reality we know very little about the early days of chess.
 
The earliest "solid" evidence that we have comes from the middle-east where a number of Persian and Arabic manuscripts were written by the end of the 10th century, the exact dating of some of these documents is uncertain with some dating them as early as the 7th century. One work the middle-Persian Karnamak-i-Artakhshatr-i-Papakan is tentatively dated at 600 CE, but speculative dating has put it as early as 260 CE and as late as 1000 CE.
 
For a long time (1600-1850) before the discovery of the arabic manuscripts it was thought that Chess originated from Persia, however virtually all of the arabic texts claimed that chess arrived from India (via Persia). This was the primary reason that the origin of chess is now stated to be India, in addition to these texts a number of other pieces of evidence were used to support this claim in Harold Murray's "History of Chess" (1913) which after almost 100 years still remains the standard reference work on the history of chess.
 
However the other evidence is shaky and pre-1000 CE evidence of chess in India is very limited. One piece of evidence normally given is the description of chess in Alberuni's India (1017CE), however this is contentious with Sam Sloan claiming that the chess passage (which relates to a four-player form of chess thought to be unique to India) doesn't exist in the original arabic edition. The passage is in Edward Sachau 1888 translation of the work, but Sachau unfortunately does not reveal the source of his arabic edition.
 
The most common alternative for the birthplace of chess is given as China, on the basis of Chinese Chess which while significantly different from Chess is clearly related. Claims that chess originated from Chinese Chess are spurious, being illogical and lacking evidence, however claims that Chinese Chess originated from ordinary chess are equally spurious. The most likely explanation of the similarities is that both of the games share a common ancestor, phylogenetic analysis has shown that the ancestor is likely to have been closer to chess than Chinese Chess. Whether this proto-chess originated in China, India or some other country is something we simply don't know and may never do.
 
The most commonly accepted belief is that Chess originated in India sometime before 600 CE, but probably after the invention of Buddhism in the 6th century BCE. However this may well not be the accepted truth a hundred years from now
 
By Imran Ghory mailto:imrang@btinternet.com - imrang@btinternet.com .
http://server2.myebiz.com/preview_jeffwarren/chess_history.html - http://server2.myebiz.com/preview_jeffwarren/chess_history.h tml
 

Chess originated in ancient India and was known as Chatur-Anga - Meaning 4 bodied, as it was played by 4 players. From this name we have its current name Shatranj. One such instance is in the Mahabharata when Pandavas and Kauravas play this game. Yudhistira the eldest of the Pandavas places his bets on his kingdom, his wife Draupadi and all other material possessions. And by a malevolent trick he loses to the Kauravas everything that he had placed his bets on. Consequently to humiliate the Pandavas, Dushasana one of the evil Kaurava brothers takes hold of Draupadi whom Yudhisthira has lost to the Kauravas, and tries to disrobe her in front of the assembled court. The Pandavas though powerful are helpless as they have lost Draupadi and according to the rules of the game they have no claim on her anymore.

http://www.crystalinks.com/indiasports.html - http://www.crystalinks.com/indiasports.html

A possible forerunner of Chess is an Indian game, known as Ashtapada, which means in Sanskrit a square board of 64 squares, 8 rows of 8 squares. It was played with dice and pieces, a race game possibly going back to the fifth century BC. Chinese records mention its introduction from India to China as early as 220 BC to 65 AD, roughly during the early Han Dynasty.

The likelihood of a race-game being a forerunner of Chess is preserved in the promotion of a pawn to a piece when reaching the 8th row. Hinduism prohibits gambling. The revival of Hinduism during the Gupta Dynasty led to an enforcement of this antigambling policy in the 6th century AD. This is used as an argument by some scholars for supporting the idea of an Indian origin of Chess. It is stated that the suppression of dice forced the transformation of a race game into a strategic game. When I discussed this with some Indian historians during a visit to India, I got clarification that the gambling inhibition was local and did not apply to total India.

http://www.silkroadfoundation.org/newsletter/volumeonenumberone/origin.html - http://www.silkroadfoundation.org/newsletter/volumeonenumber one/origin.html

                 The Origin of Chess

 

Western Chess Chronicle Vol. 1 July, 1936 No. 9

 

"It is interesting to note that early Persian and Arabic tradition is unanimous in ascribing the game of chess to India. The details naturally vary in different works and the names in the tradition are manifestly apocryphal.

   "Chess is usually associated with the decimal numerals as an Indian invention, and its introduction into Persia is persistently connected with the introduction of the book 'Kalila wa Dimna' (the Fables of Pilpay), in the reign of the Sasanian monarch, Khusraw I Nushirwan, 531 A.D., and European scholars of Sanskrit and Persian generally accept the traditional date of the introduction of this book as established. The so-called Arabic numerals are well-known to be really Indian.

   "Finally, a comparison of the arrangement and method of the European game of the 11th and 13th centuries A.D. with the Indian game as existing today and as described in the earlier records supports the same conclusion¡¦.

   "We must accordingly conclude that our European chess is a direct descendant of an Indian game played in the 7th century with substantially the same arrangement and method as in Europe five centuries later, the game having been adopted first by the Persians, then handed on by the Persians to the Muslim world, and finally borrowed from Islam by Christian Europe."

   To substantiate the assertions as to the origin of the Asiatic branch of chess, as quoted above from Cho-Yo, Mr. Murray has this to say:

   "Games of a similar nature exist today in other parts of Asia than India, The Burmese 'sittuyin', the Siamese 'makruk', the Annamese 'chhoen trang', the Malay 'chator', the Tibetan 'chandaraki', the Mongol 'shatara', the Chinese 'siang k'i', the Corean 'tjyang keui', and the Japanese 'sho-gi', are all war games exhibiting the same great diversity of pieces which is the most distinctive feature of chess.

   "There is naturally far less direct evidence respecting the ancestry of these games than in the case of European chess, but there can be no doubt that all these games are descended from the sam original Indian game. The names 'sittuyin'' (Burmese), 'chhoen trang' (Annamese), and 'chandaraki' (Tibetan) certainly, and the names 'chator' (Malay) and 'shatara' (Mongol) probably, reproduce the Sanskrit 'chaturanga'¡¦."

   In respect to the arrangement of pieces and board in the Malay, Tibetan and Mongol games Mr. Murray points out that they are identified very closely with the Indian game, but he further comments that the relation of the Chinese, Corean, and Japanese games are "not so obvious." He leaves no doubt, however, that both the Corean and Japanese games are derivatives of the older form of the Chinese game. Mention is made of Chinese writings which refer to the introduction of modifications in their game about 1279 B.C. Such coincidental features as the Chariot with the move of the Rook occupying the corner squares, and the Horse with the characteristic move of the Knight occupying adjoining squares indicate, and not accidentally, that the Chinese games are of Indian origin.

   In summarizing, we find this salient and self-evident fact. To again use Mr. Murray's words: "The broad lines of the diffusion of chess from India are fairly clear. Its earliest advance was probably westwards to Persia; the eastward advance appears to have been rather later, and at least three lines of advance may be traced." The first group, we are able to clearly trace, carried the game by Kashmir to the far east via China, Korea, and Japan. The second line, and most probably the same by which Buddhism traveled, carried the game to Further India (where it took on dissimilar features to that of Indian chess). Somewhat later the game spread from the southeast coast of India to the Malay Peninsula. How the game may have reached Tibet and the northern tribes of Asia is yet in doubt. Very ancient Persian manuscripts have revealed that the Zoroastrians had meanwhile passed on chess to the Eastern Roman Empire, and, further documents also disclose that, resulting from the Mohammedan conquest of Persia, Islam acquainted herself with the game. Following this period the Muslims became the most prolific pioneers of chess, thus bringing into being the first concepts of the Occidental branch, and carrying their game as far west as Spain and as far east as India where they ascribed the Arabic nomenclature on the Northern and Central provinces of the peninsula. There is in existence pronounced evidence of the fact that Christian Europe took up the study of chess from the Moors as early as 1000 A.D. Upon gaining a foothold on the Mediterranean shores, it gradually spread northward over France and Germany to Great Britain, to Scandinavia, and to Iceland.

http://www.chessdryad.com/articles/wcc/transcribed/origin.htm - http://www.chessdryad.com/articles/wcc/transcribed/origin.ht m

 



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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 17-Apr-2006 at 18:48
thanks AnO for your contribution

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Posted By: Apples n Oranges
Date Posted: 18-Apr-2006 at 10:46

Originally posted by Land of Aryan

thanks AnO for your contribution

It was my duty Aryan considering the way you titled this thread.

Herez a nice website if you'd like to play different variants of Chess.

http://www.pathguy.com/chess/ChessVar.htm - http://www.pathguy.com/chess/ChessVar.htm

This one gives news about Chess in India.

http://www.chathurangam.com/ - http://www.chathurangam.com/

Nice pics of a few Antique Indian Chess Sets.

http://www.geocities.com/dermot_rochford/indian_chess_sets_new.htm - http://www.geocities.com/dermot_rochford/indian_chess_sets_n ew.htm



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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 19-Apr-2006 at 05:49

Well, I found Shatrang namak,
Chess came from India

http://www.avesta.org/pahlavi/chatrang.htm - http://www.avesta.org/pahlavi/chatrang.htm

Explanation of Chess and arrangement of Vin-Artakhshir.

Translation by J. C. Tarapore, Vijârishn I Chatrang, Bombay, 1932

(1) It is said thus that during the reign of Khosraw of immortal soul1, Divsaram2, a great king of India, for the trial of the wisdom and knowledge of the Iranians and for securing his own benefit set up the game of Chatrang (or chess); 16 pieces were made of diamonds3 and 16 of red ruby4. (2) With that game of chess were sent 1200 camels loaded with gold and silver and jewels and pearls5 and clothes, 90 elephants which carried selected things came with them and Takhtritus6, who was the vizier among the Indians, came with them.

(3) In the letter it was written thus, "As your name is the King of Kings, all your emperorship over us connotes that your wise men should be wiser than ours. Either you send us an explanation of this game of chess or send revenue7 and tribute8 to us."

(4) The King of Kings asked for 4 days' time, and there was nobody among the wise of the country of Iran who could explain that game of chess. (5) On the third day Vazorgmitro, son of Bôkhte, stood up on his legs. (6) He said, "Be thou immortal! for this reason I did not expose the explanation of the game of chess till this day so that you and those who are from the country of Iran should know that I am wiser than any man in the country of Iran. (7) I shall solve the game of chess easily and secure revenue and tribute from Divsaram and I shall prepare another thing and shall send it to Divsaram which he shall not be able to solve and I shall exact double the tribute from him; and be you sure of this that you deserve the emperorship, and the wise men here are wiser than those of Divsaram.'' (8) The Emperor thrice said, "O Vazorgmitro! my Takhtritus, may you live long." He ordered 12000 jôjans9 to be awarded to Vazorgmitro.

(9) Next day Vazorgmitro called Takhtritus before him and said, "Divsaram made this game of chess like war. (10) He made the two generals like the Kings (who are) essential for the left and the right10, the farzin11 to resemble the chief of the warriors, the elephant12 to resemble the chieftain protecting the rear, the knight13 to resemble the chief of the horsemen, (and) the pawns to resemble the foot-soldiers who lead in battle." (11) After this Takhtritus arranged the game of chess and played with Vazorgmitro and Vazorgmitro thrice defeated Takhtritus and thereby great joy prevailed in the whole country.

12) Then Takhtritus rose on his legs. (13) He said, "Be you immortal! The Creator has given you this greatness and glory and courage and victory and made you the lord of Iran and non-Iranian countries. (14) Several wise people of the Indians prepared this game of chess after great toil and trouble and sent it to this place and none could solve it. (15) Your Vazorgmitro through his innate wisdom explained it easily and quickly14. (16) He has thus by this wealth increased the treasures of the Emperor."

17) The next day the Emperor called Vazorgmitro before him. (18) He said to Vazorgmitro, "O my Vazorgmitro! what is that thing you said you would devise and send to Divsaram?" (19) Vazorgmitro said, "Among the monarchs of this millennium Ardashir was the most industrious and wisest and by the name of King Ardashir I shall call the game Vin-Artakhshir15. (20) 1 shall make the board of the Vin-Artakhshir like the earth Spandarmad. (21) And 30 pieces I shall make like the 30 days and nights, I shall make 15 white to resemble the day and 15 black to resemble the night. (22) The turning of the board I shall make like the revolution of the stars and the rotation of the sky. (23) I shall make one of these revolutions like Ohrmazd who is one and from whom is granted all goodness. (24) Two I shall make to resemble the spirit and earthly matter. (25) Three I shall make to resemble good thoughts and good words and good deeds, and thought and word and action. (26) Four I shall make to resemble the four elements of which man is made, and the four points of the earth: east; and west, south and north. (27) Five I shall make to resemble the live lights of the sun and the moon and the stars and fire and the lights which come from the heavens. (28) Six I shall make to resemble the 6 periods of the Gahambars16. (29) I shall make the arrangement of Vin-Artakhshir on the board to resemble the creation of the creatures by Ohrmazd on this earth. (30) I shall make the movements and the progress in a circle of the pieces to resemble the movements of men in this world whose intelligence is connected to spiritual (powers), and who turn and pass on17 under the influence of the seven (planets) and the twelve (signs of the Zodiac), and when possible they smite and overcome one another just as men in this world smite one another. (31) And when during the progress of this revolution all the pieces are overcome, they shall be like the men who pass away from this earth, and when they are rearranged they resemble men who become revived at the time of the resurrection [Frashegird].

(32) The King of Kings when he heard these words became pleased and ordered 12,000 Arab horses of the same hair, head to foot decked with gold and pearl, and 12,000 young selected men from the country of Iran, 12,000 seven plated armors18, and 12,000 well-shapen steel swords Indian forged, 12,000 girdles seven-eyed 19, and besides all the 12,000 men and horses were adorned like children adorned. (33) Vazorgmitro of Bokhte was made the leader over them and on an auspicious day with the good gift and help of God he went to India.

(34) Divsaram, the great King of the Indians, when he saw that game asked for 40 days' time from Vazorgmitro, the son of Bokhte. (35) There was nobody from among the sages of India who could understand the explanation of that Vin-Artakhshir. (36) Vazorgmitro next got subsidy and tribute from Divsaram and with good presents and great honor he returned to the country of Iran.

(37) The explanation of chess is this that even as the wise with power have said that victory is attained through wisdom so the essentials of this game must be known through wisdom.

(38) The play of chess is this that by watching and striving to keep watch over one's own pieces one should be more industrious so that the power of the other player may be taken away, and not to play a bad game in the hope of taking away the pieces of the other player, and while using a piece and preserving the others and observing with perfect mind and in other respects one should observe the rules as given in the treatise.

Completed with satisfaction and joy.



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Posted By: Behi
Date Posted: 19-Apr-2006 at 05:56
but there is another problem, Shatarnag namak speaks about Khosrow I Anoshiravan,
But in Karname Ardeshir Papakan book mentioned Ardeshir was Master in Chess
Then Iranian knew it b4 Khosrow
Was it another game during Ardeshir??
or Indian one was another version of game!!??


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19-Apr-2006 at 12:03

I think Chess is an ancient Persian invention.It was invented by Aryans ruling old Iron IIRC.

 



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Posted By: kingofmazanderan
Date Posted: 20-Apr-2006 at 16:45
That sure is alot of information you gathered for this topic LandorAryan nice going man.  I did a little reading on the subject my self and personally believed it is very difficult to pinpoint the origins of this game. 


Posted By: cschetna
Date Posted: 12-Nov-2016 at 04:26
India is the most popular country of the world. Also in respect of the population, India is placed after china. There are too many Indian scientists, which are working on the various international project of the world. In the NASA, there are too many Indian scientist works on the various upcoming projects. There are various new invention occurs in India. Some of the best http://indiansatglance.blogspot.in/2014/05/incredible-indian-invention-hidden-from.html - invention of India , which is unknown to the world we are discussing. 

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