Tamils
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Topic: Tamils
Posted By: Gyadu
Subject: Tamils
Date Posted: 23-Mar-2006 at 10:01
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To us all towns are one, all men our kin. http://www.tamilnation.org/culture/index.htm - http://www.tamilnation.org/culture/index.htm
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Posted By: Gyadu
Date Posted: 23-Mar-2006 at 12:08
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TAMIL IDENTITY Tamil identity is primarily linguistic, with Tamils being those whose first language was Tamil. In recent times, however, the definition has been broadened to include also emigrants of Tamil descent who maintain Tamil cultural traditions, even when they no longer speak the language TAMIL POPULATION
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_people - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_people HISTORY OF THE TAMIL DIASPORA http://murugan.org/research/sivasupramaniam.htm - http://murugan.org/research/sivasupramaniam.htm ------------- Izan zirelako gara...... Izan garelako izango dira.... |
Posted By: Gharanai
Date Posted: 24-Mar-2006 at 14:19
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Very interesting, nice to know about it, thanks for sharing. ------------- 
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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 24-Mar-2006 at 14:58
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you're a tiger ?
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Posted By: Gyadu
Date Posted: 24-Mar-2006 at 22:57
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Some Tamils
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Posted By: Rajput
Date Posted: 26-Mar-2006 at 10:17
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Hi Gyadu, Tamils are definitely a force to be reckoned with; and have contributed much to the rest of the world, one particular art they have exported is their Kalari, the art used by Godess Durga/Kali. Buddhidharma has been said to have brought this art of fighting to the lands of China, where it developed into Kung-Fu. One finds many similarities in todays Kung Fu and our North Indian Gatka when compared to the ancient hindu KalariPayattu: In this chinese tapestry you see Buddhidharma, 2nd from left, teaching Kalari to Chinese monks.
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Posted By: K. V. Ramakrishna Rao
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 05:17
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I have just read the postings on "Tamils". As I am born and brought up in Tamilnadu, studied Tamil medium since childhood, I could understand the pulse of the Tamils of India. But, here, the postings appear to be supporting LTTE with which Indians have different opinion. Political issues become controversial depending upon the persons who deal, as they have their own persceptions and conceptions. Indians have to deal all language speaking people as Indians only, as Americans in US are. About the depict of the map of Cholas, historians have reservations and even Tamil scholars differ. Cholas no doubt conquered far south-east Asian countries, but, they did not annexe and rule. In Sangam literature, there are references that three Tamil Kings went upto Himalayas and planted their royal insignia. Does it mean that they conquered upto Himalayas? (Refer to my paper posted on Aryans also). K. V. Ramakrishna Rao. ------------- History is not what was written or is written, but it is actually what had happened in the past. |
Posted By: Rajput
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 08:40
You get interesting by the minute 'N.T. Ramarao' Gyadu is just trying to make people aware of Tamils as a WHOLE and I think its a good try on his part. -------------
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How in the world does talking about Tamil origins, martial art and their culture add up to your above moronic statement?? After the pathetic cut and paste job on the aryan problem forum what is this suppose to be icing on the cake for you??Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 08:59
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You don't need to insult Ramakrishna, Rajput. It is obvious that Gyadu (Jhangora for other name) did post some LTTE images and terminology and these can be polemic. Said that, I do support Tamil self-determination, like that of Kashmiris or Assamites. But there's no need to disqualify: discussions must be brought by mean of reason. ------------- 
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Posted By: Rajput
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 09:04
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Wasn't that 'ulrich von hutten' who posted the picture up? All I see in gyadus post is on military personnel who looks like an Indian or Sri Lankan soldier and another guy smiling in...the rest are all maps etc. Gyadu hasnt even mentioned anything about anything closely related to Rao's accusations. PS. Who's jahngora or whoever? -------------
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Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 10:15
The smiling guy is the leader of LTTE and the soldier looks a "Tiger" (that's their typical uniform - when they have them).  This guy is Velupillai Pirapaharan, "the national leader of Tamil Eelam", according to http://www.eelam.com/ - one of their sites .That you aren't able to see it doesn't mean that it isn't there. Jhangora/Gyadu is just banned forummer who is native to northern India but lives in Korea. Use the search feature if you want more. -------------
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Posted By: Rajput
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 10:36
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http://soundslam.com/articles/reviews/reviews.php?reviews=mia_galang - Maya Arulpragasum London based MC who doesnt sing half as bad as she looks in her video 'Galang', she is of tamil origin and my personal favorite
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Posted By: AlokaParyetra
Date Posted: 07-Apr-2006 at 17:38
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Maju, what do you mean by tamil self-determination? In sri lanka, or India? Because i can garuntee you, tamilians in india have no interest in any self-determination. Countries (i would like to believe) are no longer drawn along the concept of "every ethinicity should be self-determining." I assume you mean sri lanka, because the discussion was about the LTTE, but i just want to make sure. |
Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 07:23
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I support self-determination of all peoples everywhere. Self-determination doesn't mean auomatically independence it's just about the right to rule each own's destiny. Often a friendly mutually beneficial association (federation, confederation, other possibilities) can be a better choice. I was implicitly thinking in Sri Lanka but it applies everywhere. It's just a principle, a democratic principle. -------------
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Posted By: K. V. Ramakrishna Rao
Date Posted: 08-Apr-2006 at 08:27
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Dear friends, I am not delighted at N. T. Rama Rao or M. G. Ramachandran or M. Karunanidhi or whoever other. I want to be Indian besides Tamilian, Keralite, Telugu or otherwise. However, the pro-LTTE or LTTE supporters / sympathisers through different forums (Forum hub, tamilaraychi group, Tamilnation etc) want to force Indian Tamils to follow their ideology, which cannot be accepted by Indians. History / historical research on Tamils, Tamil culture/civilization/literature is different from politics or politicization of such factors. One should make others clear what they stand for instead of passing unnecessary comments on others. Sincerely yours, K. V. Ramakrishna Rao. ------------- History is not what was written or is written, but it is actually what had happened in the past. |