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    Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 05:11
Shahr banu (or Shahr banoo), was the eldest daughter of Yazdegerd III, the last Emperor of Sassanid Persia.

After the defeat of her father Yazdegerd III, she was taken captive by the invading Arab armies and sent to Medina where she was married to Husayn ibn Ali, the grandson of Muhammad, and the third Shia Imam. She would give birth to one son with Husayn, Ali Zayn al Abidin (fourth Shia Imam), and would die shortly after his birth.

The following is a recount of how this happened from a Shi'ite sources:

    When returning to Madinah from their decisive victorious battle against Persia, Omar's army brought with them many prisoners. Many of them were women. Among the prisoners captured at Mada'en were members of the Persian royal family, including the princess. People flocked in masses to see the captured daughter of the fallen mythical King of Persia.

    Omar the caliph soon arrived and demanded the daughter of the King of Persia to be shown to him. The soldiers brought her to Omar. Omar then approached her and reached out to lift her veil to see the princess. The princess pulled herself back and cried out in Persian : "The face of Hormoz darkens from indignity!" ("Vay! Rooye Hormoz siyaah shod!")

    Omar, thinking that the princess had offended him, angrily shouted: "This woman insults me!" and decided to kill her. Ali suddenly interrupted him and said: "You do not know her language. She called on her ancestor, and did not insult you."

    Omar then announced that he who paid the most will have her as a slave. But Ali again interrupted and said: "You do not have that right!" The crowd fell silent under Ali's aura. Ali then asked the princess: "Do you wish me to find you a husband?" The princess did not reply. Trying to prevent the auction from taking place, Ali said: "Her silence is a sign of approval." Facing Omar, Ali continued: "Why don't we let HER choose a person from amongst this crowd as a husband, and we will pay for her dowry from the public treasury?" Omar agreed.

    Scanning through the crowd around her, the princess suddenly stopped and froze as her eyes fell on a man amongst the crowd. "I have seen this man in a dream before" she said. Tracing her look, the entire crowd turned around and looked at Husayn, son of Ali. Ali went up to Husayn and said: "Husayn! From this girl, the most noble of humans shall be born."

    Ali, then came up to the princess and asked: "What is your name?" The princess replied: "The daughter of Jahan-shah". Ali said: "and so Shahr-banuyeh you will be called" ("the bride of the land").

The sources used for writing the passage are:

    * "Aldarajat ol Rafi'" p215.
    * "Mo'jem ol Baladan" Vol 2 p196.
    * "Nahj al Balagha" letter 45.
    * "Nahj al Balagha" Sobhi Saleh sermon 209.
    * "Nafs Al-Rahman" p139.
    * "Managhib ebne shahr ashub" Vol 4, p48.
    * "Iranian dar Qoran va revayat." Seyed Noureddin Abtahi. Chapter 3.

From this marriage, Ali Zayn al Abidin, Shia's fourth Imam was born in 658. She died shortly after, and has a shrine in Rey, south of Tehran, Iran.


The shrine of "Bibi Shahrbanu", Rey, Iran

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahr_Banu




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  Quote Behi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 05:16
She's one of the major reasons why Iranian are shiite

& about Story, It sounds as Myth,
Regardless of all other mythical aspects,
How did Vaspoharegan Shahrbano know the Arabic???
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  Quote Behi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 15:15
Originally posted by http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=119

Shahrbano was the holy relationship between the Arabs and the Persians. This is because she was the mother of Zayn al-'Abidin, who was the son of the two good (communities) and father of the pure progeny who filled the world with all the factors of awareness, dignity, and advancement. Sayyid 'Abid al-'Aziz Sayyid al-Ahal said: "Zayn al-'Abidin is a strong relationship between us, we, the Arabs, and the Persians.
Then he is a strong relationship among all people. It is as if he is among the strong causes which the Subtle, the Powerful (Allah) drove to erase division, to strengthen unity, and to bring people close to each other." This was the strongest relationship between the Arabs and the Persians because it has spread love, affection, and unity among them.
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  Quote Iranian41ife Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 15:23
well yea, shia'ism is the iranian form of islam, so im not surprised to know that many of the imams have iranian blood in them.
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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 17:16

Iranians usually try to make the shiits to the good guys of the invaders. Here is the Zoroastrian version

The village of Chak Chak, also know as Pir-e-Sabz, consists of a shrine perched beneath a towering cliff face in the desert of central Iran. It is the most sacred of the Zoroastrian mountain shrines. Located near the city of Ardakan in rovince.htm">Yazd province, Chak Chak serves as a pilgrimage point for pious Zoroastrians. Each year from June 14 to 18 many thousands of Zoroastrians from Iran, India and other countries flock to the temple of Pir-e Sabz. Tradition has it that pilgrims are to stop the moment they see the sight of the temple and continue their journey on foot the rest of the way.

Meaning "drop-drop" in Persian, Chak Chak is where Nikbanou, the daughter of the last pre-Islamic Persian ruler, the Sassanian Emperor fersia.htm">Yazdegerd III of Persia, was cornered by the invading Arab army. Fearing capture Nikbanou prayed to Ahura Mazda to protect her from her enemies. In response to Nikbanous pleadings the mountain miraculously opened up and sheltered her from the invaders.

Notable features of Chak Chak include the ever dripping spring located at the mountain. Legend has it that these drops are tears of grief that the mountain sheds in remembrance of Nikbanou. Growing beside the holy spring is an immense and ancient tree said to be Nikbanous cane. Legend also has it that a petrified colorful cloth from Nikbanou was also visible in the rocks although pilgrims have since taken this.

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  Quote Behi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 18:11
Iranians usually try to make the shiits to the good guys of the invaders.

on that time there were no shiites,
Shiite made by Iranain which Islam was imposed to them,
Sharbano was Iranian but not ordinary women, she was Iazdgerd daughter, Then she had Fareh Eizadi (I don't know in english maybe: God's charisma)
& Who governed on Iranian must had it, this concept existed until Ghaznavid, They were Turk, & Iranian didn't accept them then they tried to destroy this custom, but it existed in safvid bcuz they claimed have Royal Sassanid Blood.

Well, Then Emams had Royal Iranian blood & accepted as Iranian
& so they were in same way with Iranian both were againest Omayed.

& so in my openion, maybe Emam Mahdi (last one whom is hidden) is copy of Soshiant of Zartosht
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  Quote Alborz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2006 at 00:36

Interesting, but why is she considered as a martyr???

also, I have heard of bad stories regarding her so called marriage. I have heard she escaped from her husband, because he was abusive....etc. She died in suffering, then the Hossein felt bad and made a shrine to her.

I dont see how shiasm is an Iranian version of Islam. Before we Iranians were ever seriously exposed to it, Egyptians were shia under the Fatimids, untill salahadin destroyed them (i think it was him).

we only have been exposed to it since 1500s.

I think Sufism would be an Iranian version of Islam.

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  Quote Gharanai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2006 at 07:38
very interesting topic though it has to be studied carefully and then be talked about but I see that you have used several references too so it's good to refere and I find it very informative.


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  Quote azimuth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2006 at 00:51

Originally posted by Land of Aryan

& so in my openion, maybe Emam Mahdi (last one whom is hidden) is copy of Soshiant of Zartosht

hidden?

i never thought you belive in that.

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  Quote ramin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2006 at 16:55
Don't sunnies believe that a person called 'Mahdi' with the name 'Muhammad' is going to appear on the judgement day?
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  Quote DayI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2006 at 18:07
Originally posted by ramin

Don't sunnies believe that a person called 'Mahdi' with the name 'Muhammad' is going to appear on the judgement day?
we believe in Mahdi. Mahdi as we believe in will be not Muhammed sas but Jezus/Isa sas, who will come back on the day of kiyameh IIRC.
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  Quote ramin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2006 at 18:23
In response to azimuth, I don't think that it is much of a difference. I know for a fact that Shias' Mehdi is misinterpretation of the Mahdi mentioned in Quran. for more weird interpretation I should add that Bahais believe that Mahdi has appeared some time ago and was killed, therefore another messenger was sent (Bab). imo Quran's Mahdi too, is a misinterpretation of some concpets introduced earlier by some 'Messengers'

AFAIK in all religions there's always someone who'll come on the final day to end all 'evil'. THAT in my opinion, is called 'common concept' and probably has a fictional origin.


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  Quote azimuth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Mar-2006 at 23:53

Originally posted by ramin

Don't sunnies believe that a person called 'Mahdi' with the name 'Muhammad' is going to appear on the judgement day?

yea but we dont belive that he is "hiding" since the 9th century till today.

 

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  Quote ramin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 01:03
well I hope you figured that out. and "hidden" as it was used by Aryan may have not been the right word, however I don't think that was so legitimate to laugh at it azimuth. --- "I won't laugh if a philosophy halves the moon" we should really think about it.
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  Quote azimuth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Mar-2006 at 05:42

i apologize if the laughing offended you.

but yea as far as i know Sheia belive that he is hiding and will come out from a specific place one day.

 

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