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Aydin
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Topic: Explosion Destroys Dome of Shiite Shrine Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 09:33 |
Believe it or not, there are Muslims out there sick enough to commit these acts...who do you think makes up Al-Qaeda?
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Mira
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 09:36 |
Lebanese Shiite Muslims rally to protest attack on Iraq shrine
Beirut, Feb. 24 (AP): Tens of thousands
of Lebanese Shiite Muslims beat their chests in mourning and shouted
slogans against the United States in a rally to protest the bombing of
a sacred Shiite shrine in Iraq.
The bombing of the shrine in Iraq - and
bloody reprisal attacks by Shiites that have followed - underlined the
rising tensions between Shiites and Sunnis across the Mideast, fuelled
by the violence in Iraq and extremists' desire to divide Muslims.
Leaders of both communities have called for calm and tried to shift attention - and blame - to the United States.
"Let's not blame each other. We
shouldn't give them that opportunity. We should limit the accusations
against the American occupation, its agents and murderers," Hezbollah
leader, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, yesterday told the crowds gathered at a
soccer field and adjoining streets in south Beirut, a stronghold of the
Shiite militant organisation.
Nasrallah described US President George W Bush as a "killer" and ridiculed his offer to rebuild the shrine's Golden Dome.
"I tell him, don't destroy our sanctities and don't rebuild them. You are destroying our sanctities. Who are you fooling?"
Bush had said yesterday that the United States was serious in its commitment to help rebuild the Golden Mosque.
"We understand its importance to Iraqi
society and we want to stand side by side with the government in making
sure that beautiful dome is restored," Bush said.
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/003200602241012.htm
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Leonidas
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 10:01 |
Originally posted by Aydin
Believe it or not, there are Muslims out there sick enough to commit these acts...who do you think makes up Al-Qaeda? |
I think some people here cant accept the fact, there are bad guys on all sides.
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Mira
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 10:45 |
Originally posted by Leonidas
Originally posted by Aydin
Believe it or not, there are Muslims out there sick enough
to commit these acts...who do you think makes up Al-Qaeda? |
I think some people here cant accept the fact, there are bad guys on all sides.
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This is obviously meant at me.
I disagree, Leonidas. I don't think we're angels, and I don't
think the West (or the Political West, i.e. America) is the Greatest
Satan, like someone had suggested earlier.
I will readily accept that our governments are corrupt, and our
religion is twisted to serve some peoples' political agendas. I
will also accept and condemn that there are Muslims who are capable of
violence. Truth is truth, and it shouldn't upset anyone.
Here's my first response in this thread:
Originally posted by Mira
Yes, it's outrageous and intolerable. The culprits should
be punished - whoever they are, and whatever religion/sect they belong
to. |
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pikeshot1600
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 10:55 |
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Leaders of both communities have called for calm and tried to shift attention - and blame - to the United States.
The ultimate political strategem of losers.
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Nasrallah described US President George W Bush as a "killer"....
Shiek Hassan Nasrallah is an Iranian tool, pimping his people's interests for the benefit of someone else's. He and others like him are not leaders, they are followers of Iranian interests, and very small parts of the ass end of Iran's intelligence services. Who do you think pays them?
Pathetic and futile. What a waste of a life.
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 11:50 |
Originally posted by SearchAndDestroy
President Bush said that the US government will be putting money towards restoring the shrine. Do you think that will calm most of the Shia down if it is restored?
Has it been confirmed yet if anyone died inside besides those who blew themselves up?
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Why are we going to be wasting money rebuilding someone elses shrine that we did not destroy. The USA has plenty of its own shrines and monuments in need of restoration that money could be spent on. As for the claim that Israel, England and the USA conspired to destory the shrine, that is rediculous. The fact is that radical islamic terrorists are now blowing up their own shrines and monuments to further their cause. On another note, what is the condition of the interior of the shrine now? Have the tombs and bodies of the imams buried in it been destroyed?
EDIT: I find it disturbing that some members on this site are advocating that terrorists direct their attacks towards Israel and the USA.
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 12:05 |
From someone who made such quotes below I find it disturbing that you are so selective in your arguements.
Originally posted by R_AK47
Who here thinks we should tear down Mehmet's tomb and rebuild the Church of the Holy Apostles in its place (in Istanbul/Constantinople)? |
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 12:15 |
The civil war like environment in Iraq is growing to severe proportions. I tend to look at the analogy 'as the glue that binds'. With Tito's Yugoslavia there was communism but not anarchy. Once he was off the scene chaos followed. Same with Iraq. We all know Saddam is prosecuted, rightly so, for harms against his own citizens. Yet he was also a type of glue that bonded his country together. Once taken out of the picture, a restless undermining of newly appointed 'American' authority is violently challenged. Not only that the inner rumblings of the numerously different ethnic and religious factions are at eachothers throats.
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 12:19 |
Before Saddam and the baathists Iraq was united under a reasonably liberal Monarchy.
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 12:22 |
Good point.
Saddam infamously came to power as he left it, with violence. Unifying a country is a strange thing.
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 14:45 |
Originally posted by Aydin
Believe it or not, there are Muslims out there sick enough to commit these acts...who do you think makes up Al-Qaeda? |
Well, that depends entirely how far back u want to look in history.
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Omar al Hashim
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Posted: 24-Feb-2006 at 19:09 |
Originally posted by pikeshot1600
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
Well Pikeshot, you just answered your own question
Originally posted by Pikeshot1600
No,
a civil war is in the interests of Iran, and Syria and Saudi Arabia and
probably numerous factions (political, religious and criminal)
indigenous to Iraq. The last thing any of those entities want is
an Iraq that succeeds and by doing so threatens their perceived vital
interests.....i.e. their power to monopolize control of their
respective populations and the wealth of their countries. |
Originally posted by pikeshot1600
It probably threatens the security of Iran and Saudi Arabia and Syria more. |
Originally posted by Pikeshot1600
economic benefit of alternative and hybrid energy sources can be appreciated. |
Divide
and conquer is the oldest page in the book, I can probably look up a
Sun Tzu quote for you. A united Iraq all fighting america is against
americas interests, a divided Iraq fighting each other as well as
america is an improvement from the american point of view.
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Omar: Your interpretation of the probable scenario and its
result is different than mine. No problem. It is just as
probable that we are both wrong.
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Yeah thats true. Any news coming out of Iraq is about as reliable as
hersay. We're all siting here talking about the situation, when none of
us probably know anything about the situation. I suspect there is a
thousand ways to interpret any news from Iraq
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