Tibet, Kurdistan, Western China, Assyria, Chechnia

Here is a map of the Roman Empire, how is it that the Medians wiped the Assyrians out if they are still their after 700 years from which you claim.

Say the kurds are from the Median Empire, according to this map they are no where near Iraq or Turkey.

Say the kurds are from the Median Empire, according to this map they are no where near Iraq or Turkey.

And Turkey doesn't exist on that map.

 That map is of the Roman empire, you are very brainwashed.  The Roman Empire  reached that peak 500 years after Assyria was destroyed, that is PArthia you are showing n that map Media was before that.

Where did Kurds come from? You tell me.  A better question is, where did the Assyrians go?

Originally posted by Zagros Purya Where did Kurds come from? You tell me.  A better question is, where did the Assyrians go?

I dont know where the kurds came from, but what i do know is the Assyrians are still around. Many have turned into Arabs and many have turned into kurds. I can tell you for a fact that 85% of the people who left Iraq are Assyrians. 95% of the Iraqis in the U.S. are Assyrians.  Assyrians are located in almost every country (example from Australia till Russia and from Japan till Mexico). You might be thinking now, why didn't the Assyrians have big numbers for the Iraqi Elections. Well the reason is, the recent Iraqi Elections favored the Kurds. The people in charge of the election for example put the voting places in a city of only no more then 6,000 Iraq kurds rather then put it in a city of 60,000 Iraq Assyrians. Or how about the countrys of Brazil or Armenia where thier is over 300,000 Iraq Assyrians in those places. Why didn't they set up a voting area in lebnon where there is more then 70,000 Iraqi Assyrians. What im trying to tell you is, KURDS ARE NOTHING BUT CHEATING LIERS!  Even inside Iraq, say for example the Turkish city of Kirkuk. The areas with a Turkomen majority never got to vote. The day of the elections the voting centers were moved out of their area where they had registered. Or how about the Assyrians in Dohuk. They never recieved any ballots.

Self determination is a wonderfull thing, there are 6000 languages in the world, and thus probably a similar number of ethnicities, but only 200 countries, we have a lot of work to do it seems.
There again, better to support a few select fashionable causes, and sod the rest, geography is tough enough as it is.

Originally posted by AssyrianMan7 The Kurds shouldn't get their Kurdistan because their orgins are not from the Middle East. If you look at Kurdish history for some reason, it all begin in the late 1800's. ..............................................

With Respect To your Huge (realy huge) amount of knowledge about History (actually staggering) I just mention that some traitor historians dared and named the Kurds in the same Area that you said in some years before 1800s, for example Ya'qubi says that Border of Arabs and Kurds befor Islam was Euphrate River and Ibn Asir says about a hatred marwanid Dynasty ( a kurdish one)in 10th century in (God orgive me) in Mosul and.....
But more insulting is that Sultan Sanjar(whom god put in hell) in 12th century dared and named a  virtual land by the name of Kurdistan which dear Ninawa (that infidal sultan called it Mosul)was located there,Death to him ,he realy deserved his defeat by the hands of Oguzes, But then we have sultan Oweys JalaYeri that Included kurdistan (Again in sacred land assyria,How impudent he was) He realy deserved punishment by the hands of Teymur,Death to him , Then Aq quyunlues and Uzun Hasan who dares and again said Kurdistan ,death to him and god punished him so he became Uzun Hasan,If he said Assyria, God made him Qashang hasan,then Othmans and Safavids and their hatred Qasr-e-shirin treament,Death to them , they realy both desrve extinction, and Assyrian God showed that anybody or nation dare and pronounce it will be extinct.

And name Assyria may you show a reference say after Islam until appearing of europeans to show the name of assyria.good luck.

1)This is History don't mix it with politcs Assyrianman7

 i do know is the Assyrians are still around

Do know is good ,but it is not proof, prove it.

 can tell you for a fact that 85% of the people who left Iraq are Assyrians

60% of Iraqis that left Iraq came Iran,according to Iraq goverment statistics (but they are liar) and they were shiis or Kurds,(but they are be liar too,death to them)

Assyrians are located in almost every country (example from Australia till Russia and from Japan till Mexico).

What about Antractica???!!

The people in charge of the election for example put the voting places in a city of only no more then 6,000 Iraq kurds rather then put it in a city of 60,000 Iraq Assyrians

I found,Bush is kurd, I think Satan himself is Kurd,Only satan could do so many bad thing in one day.

 

2)And 120% of Iraqies are assyrians,There is no objection

Or how about the countrys of Brazil or Armenia where thier is over 300,000 Iraq Assyrians in those places. Why didn't they set up a voting area in lebnon where there is more then 70,000 Iraqi Assyrians.

beause Assyrians of Armenia are not Iraqies.Also Assyrians of Iran are not also Iraqis,you know assyrians of syria are not Iraqis too and Assyrians of Turkey are not Iraqi too......And Brazil and Lebanon had Ballots.
 

Or how about the Assyrians in Dohuk. They never recieved any ballots

Yes,These hatred Kurds put some ballots in street and said that every body wants to vote must come here and vote (they are themselves wild and uncivilized and think others are like them that go in streets ad vote)

 

This was to be a discussion about if any of those aforementioned nations have a valid claim for independence, and not about the origins of Kurds and Assyrians. Please stick to the topic!
There are numerous threads about these topics, read through them and continue there please!

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Kurdistan HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA man nice joke, Assyria even better one... right yep sure nice list, they should gain independance >< it'll be good for all of us nice sport..

The rest don't belong to this fantasy list, Chechniya is a country and so is Tibet they exist as countries chechniya will eventually be independant as russia doesnt have the drive to be there anymore, tibet I have no idea they want or dont want chinese control, and the turks in china..I dont think they should break away yet, although it will be the goal of every single western politician, to destablize china, its how they show their "honour".. as they dont know how to fight like men



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I am puzzled by everyone judging the Kurds on racial matters.   Is there really such a thing as a Kurdish race? 

There are, Infact They have right to claim for their independance country . But we have right to protect our country too.

But you are right there is not much different between Turks and Kurds, except langauge. Of course I am talking Turkey kurds.