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If Eastern Turkestan were an American State, how would you feel?

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    Posted: 27-May-2005 at 23:38

Lets say instead of the Manchu invading Eastern Turkestan, the Americans.. in an effort to fend off expansionist USSR, took ET themselves. How would you feel today? Would you still want independance? or would you agree with the Puerto Ricans and Hawaiians that being part of the United States is better for their people in the long run?

Philippines for example, they wanted independance and faught hard for it, eventually after years of fighting against and with(WW-II) America, and through peaceful negotiations they got their freedom. I will tell you one thing, many people there would rather be a US commonwealth or even a state considering the current state of ecomonic affairs and internal political corruption plaguing the nation these days.

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  Quote Feramez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 02:40
This is a good question.  I have mixed feelings on a subject like this.  I would want East Turkistan to be independent from any occupating country.  But if a country, Turkish or not, can not handle them selves but does better off with an occuppying force, I support that...if the occupying country does not oppress and discriminate against the people just as China does to the Uygurs.  As I said, I have mixed feelings on this subject and answered this question non-biased as if I was a non-Turk answering it.  But other than that, Free East Turkistan!!!!!!!! 
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  Quote AyKurt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 06:51
I would have to agree with Feramez, Eastern Turkestan should be free and independant from any occupation. 
However if the choice was between the Chinese, Russia and the USA, then theres really not much of an argument.  USA.
The US occupation of Japan is a good example of what could be achieved, a thoroughly modern nation with strong local culture.  Also the US would not try to change the demographics of the country like the Chinese nor would they try and undermine and rewrite the history and identity of the Turkic peoples to seperate them from their Turkish kin like the Soviets.
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  Quote poirot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 04:45

If Eastern Turkestan were an American territory, the Bush Administration would love it.  Its proximity to Afghanistan would enable American troops to set up a permanent base in Central Asia, and its proximity to both Russia and China would give the U.S. a good spot to keep both in check.  Nevertheless, in the long run, it would spell trouble.  Remember that Ugyurs volunteered in the Taliban forces during the U.S. invasion and occupation of Afghanistan; thus, given the politics, the would make little sense for the Ugyurs to welcome American occupation of Eastern TurketanEastern Turkestan would be strategicall brillant to launch U.S. operations in central Asia, but then, due to the inland nature of the vast, sparsely populated territory, the U.S. would actually be dependent upon China and Russia in the long run.  It would be as preposterous as the U.S. setting up bases in Mongolia.  

Geographically, logistically, and politically, it is improbable for Ugyurs to support American occupation, and impossible for Americans to establish a permanent stonghold in the area.



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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 20:18
No thank you!!!
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  Quote Illuminati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 23:44
Well, I would be fine with it. Only if the people of that region want to be a US-protectorate though. I don't wanna be oppressing anyone from wanting their independence. But I wouldn't be opposed to it.
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