BREXIT

So say No to brexit Britons! 

Originally posted by Aeoli I hope Britain won't leave, but I don't like the EU idea in Britishs' minds (EU far from centralism)

I support the British vision of the EU and Im completely against German-French vision of this institution.

The problem is that without Britain it will be impossible to stop farther federalisation of Europe.

Originally posted by Aeoli I know that Spain and Poland populations are close, but seeing them like this. I am a little bit shock

Polish votes are important only when they can be combined together with the British votes. Poland is also able to gather some coalition of eastern European members of EU, but all those small eastern european states got so few votes that without Britain it will be not possible to stop the farther integration of the EU.

Countries like Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark and Sweden almost always give full support to German ideas. Unfortunately France, Italy and Spain seems to be dominated by parties which are also controlled in the Europarliament by German centrists and socialists.


Without Britain it will be impossible to make any strong coalition which could have stop the followers of Merkel.

Originally posted by Aeoli Ukraine crisis began with EU supporters won the election. Russia is not big fun of  Ukrainians EU dream. This special partnership can offer Ukraine too. Of course Russia still won't be big supporter but at least Russia won't be negatory.

Russia wants to destroy EU because it is much easier for Russians to deal with the separate european countries than with the whole EU.

Originally posted by Aeoli This country mentality is reason of this shit. There shouldn't be Poland there should be People in Poland. Krakow population is more than Malta, but their voice doesn't reach the world. They can not be a head of EU. Country system is the reason of why EU looks like mtyhologic Hydra.

Why do you think that if we all will become one european nation, things will be better for us? What we do experience right now is nothing more but German hegemony over the continent. Merkel achieved success there, where Hitler failed. She isnt ruling just Germany, she is ruling the whole Europe while being chancellor of Germany. She is not a president of European Council, the man who is, is just her puppet. She is not a President of the European Commission, they guy who is, is also just her puppet. We dont even have a elections for neither President of the Comission nor the president of the Council. We dont even vote for the members of the Comission. Who is picking them? Chancellor of Germany. Can someone become the head of the comission or of the council without approval of Germany? Answer this question yourself. We didnt fight the bloody World War to surrender without the shot to the Germans and to be just tools in their politics which serve only their interests. As a Greek you should know somthing about the interests of German banks in your own country.

So did Britsh MEP Nigel Farag:

Originally posted by Mosquito Sorry, I remember that you are from Turkey ;) Forget it only for a moment when was writting my post.

They is leaving.

PM Cameron has resigned. I have to confess that I haven't been following this.
I assumed they would vote to stay. Apparently so did the majority of folks here.

The global markets are having a meltdown. The DOW is convulsing, at this writing it's down over 500 points.

The break up of the EU is being talked about, as well as the break up of the UK.
Scotland is calling for another referendum on independence.

The fallout from this can't be measured.