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    Posted: 20-May-2005 at 10:42

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Does anyone know what ancient people ate? I have read that although they were omni-vores, they only ate meat during religious feasts, after sacrificing the animal. Pretty much vegetarian during most other days. Is this accurate/ possible, given the extreme physical toil these people had to suffer without modern machines? How often were these religious feasts?

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 12:50
Any Ancient people in particular, how about a precise time peroid, income group/social class, etc.

Was watching a program on BBC4 the other day, looking at how geology and history tie together, even going so far as to have a geologists view on history, excellent stuff.
Anyways, it was looking at Rome, and concluded that lead was a part of its demise, not the piping mind you, but how much of the wine and food was often made with something called 'Sappa' (Grape concentrate), which was prepared in lead vats, and due to its acidity, would have disolved lots of lead into itself. So the Romans were actualy consuming rather alot of lead, especialy the richer classes, and it was amoung them that madness, infitility etc was most common, both symptons of lead posoining.
Intresting program.
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OK, I suppose the meditteranean world anytime between the Neolithic and the Industrial Revolution. Social class= free commoners (nobles and slaves, the extremes of a society, are never representative). Any ideas?
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-May-2005 at 15:52
It would have varied regionaly, but meat, fish and fresh vegtables were staples, religious feasts would have seen more 'exotic' or expensive food consumed.
But time wise thats still a wide reach, theres a whole mannor of new foodstuffs introduced during that peroid that revolutionised many local cuisines in the Meditteranean region.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2005 at 21:06

I would have guess that these recipes are not for free commoners, but this is what Jean Bottro, ASSYRIOLOGIST sais:

...But Bottro is convinced that the Mesopotamians - and not only Mesopotamia royalty - enjoyed them.

"It is my opinion," he wrote in the The Journal of the American Oriental Society, "that in any given culture, imagination and refinement, whether culinary or otherwise, are by themselves easily contagious. We might imagine, therefore, that even small households must have introduced some experimentation into their everyday eating, within the limits of their economic' capabilities.

"In other words, I do not believe that the cuisine of even the most modest of [Mesopotamian] households is necessarily reflected in the sorry mushes and doleful mastications to which we Asyriologists have consigned them so sadistically.

... In fact these tablets on wich are written these recipes, give us a good idea of how andvanced (culinary speaking, among more), was the ancient akkadian/sumerian civilization.  I use the word advanced........

One text that has come down to us is a Sumerian-Akkadian bilingual dictionary, recorded in cuneiform script on 24 stone tablets about 1900 BC. It lists terms in the two ancient Mesopotamian languages for over 800 different items of  food and drink. Included are 20 different kinds of cheese, over 100 varieties of soup and 300 types of bread - each with different ingredients, filling, shape or size.

A Babylonian Banquet

These three of the Worlds oldest known recipes were recorded 3,700 years ago in Akkadian by a scribe who used reed styli to make cuneiform (wedge-shaped) impressions on the clay tablet, shown actual size, at right. In the translations below, amplifications have been added in brakets tom make the fuller meaning of the originals clear.


KID STEW
Singe head, legs and tail over flame [before putting in pot]. Meat [in addition to kid] is needed, [preferably mutton to sharpen the flavor]. Bring water to boil. Throw in fat. Squeeze onion, samdu [a plant probably of the onion family, and] garlic [to extract juices, add to pot with] blood and soured milk. [Add] an equal amount of raw uhutinnu [another plant probably of the onion family] and serve.


TARRU-BIRD STEW
[Besides the tarru birds, which may have been pigeon, quail or partridge,] meat from a fresh leg of mutton is needed. Boil the water, throw fat in. Dress the tarru [and place in pot]. Add coarse salt as needed. [Add] hulled cake of malt. Squeeze onions, samdu, leek, garlic [together] and add to pot along with] milk. After [cooking and] cutting up the tarru , plunge them [to braise] in stock [from the pot]. Then place them back in the pot [in order to finish cooking]. To be brought out for carving.


BRAISED TURNIPS
Meat is not needed. Boil water. Throw fat in. [Add] onion, dorsal thorn [name of unknown plant used as seasoning], coriander, cumin and kana [a legume]. Squeeze leek and garlic and spread [juice] on dish. Add onion and mint.

source: http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/198802/mesopotamian.me nus.htm
 

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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2005 at 03:56

Answers of all questions are in the Burnt City where some types of 5,000 years old foods have been found!


The remnants of foods in the Burnt City

Interview With Italian Archaeobotanist Lorenzo Costantini: Burnt City wont Let any Archeologist Down

- Last year you found out about one or two kinds of the dishes of the residents of the Burnt City and you succeeded to cook them too. Would you tell us what were these dishes?

One of the dishes is a combination of lentille, fish and coriander which gave the food a good taste. We found out that the residents did not use oil to cook food, or at least we did not find anything with oil qualities in their food remains.

Another food of theirs was something like todays pottage (or more specifically Aash) which the modern Iranians eat too, and it is interesting to know that the traditional Iranian foods of today are similar to the ancient ones.

The Burnt City is not comparable to any other site in the world. The climate conditions are such that the soil, objects, and foods are preserved in a good condition, and from this point of view, it is only comparable to the archeological sites of Egypt.



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  Quote TheodoreFelix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Jun-2005 at 16:35
I believe the Romans relied heavily on corn.

Although a list would be nice.
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Ancient Turks ate horses, and used to drink horse milk. Modern Turks cant eat even those meals, because today we have the curse on us called inflation...
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