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    Posted: 19-Jul-2013 at 06:17

Part 1:

Nearly half a millennium ago now, in 1533, Henry VIII annulled his marriage to Catherine of Aragon so that he could marry his mistress, Anne Boleyn. In the process, he broke relations with the Catholic Church of Rome and created, in the process, an independent Church of England. The new marriage lasted three years before Anne fell from favour, and lost her head to an executioner's sword. Henry had courted her, but she played it cool and coy. He got hotter and hotter for her and, over time, became obsessed.  Henry moved heaven and earth, and did the unthinkable: he broke from the Church of England in order to marry her.

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The story of one of Henry's earlier affairs with Anne's sister, Mary Boleyn, was less well-known until 2001 when the bodice-ripping novel The Other Boleyn Girl was published.  It is a piece of historical fiction written by British author Philippa Gregory. It is loosely-based on the life of 16th-century aristocrat Mary Boleyn. Reviews were mixed; some said it was a brilliant recreation of palace life in Tudor England, while others have consistently pointed out the lack of historical accuracy. The book has enjoyed phenomenal success and popularity since its publication a dozen years ago.

Gregory has written novels set in several different historical periods, though primarily the Tudor period and the 16th century. The Tudor period is the period between 1485 and 1603 in England and Wales.  It coincides with the rule of the Tudor dynasty in England whose first monarch was Henry VII(1457–1509).  In terms of the entire century, John Guy(1949- ), a British historian and biographer, argues that "England was economically healthier, more expansive, and more optimistic under the Tudors" than at any time in a thousand years.

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I am not a novel reader, historical or otherwise. Many areas of the print world, many subjects and disciplines of study, have captured my interest and attention in the 60 years from 1953 to 2013. Novels are not one. Sometimes, though, I take an interest in film adaptations of novels; sometimes I watch an entire adaptation. At other times I watch short-slices of such adaptations, if I do not want to invest what is usually two to three hours in an entire film.  A 2008 feature film adaptation of that 2001 novel, The Other Boleyn Girl, was an example of such a slice.  This film was screened in Tasmania on 7TWO TV1 last night.

The film starred Scarlett Johansson as Mary, Natalie Portman as Anne, Jim Sturgess as George, Eric Bana as Henry VIII, and Eddie Redmayne as Stafford, I was informed at an internet film site.  In Translating Henry to the Screen, a bonus feature on the DVD release of the film, viewers were informed by screenwriter Peter Morgan of his dilemma in adapting Philippa Gregory's 600-plus-page novel for the screen.-Ron Price with thanks to 1The Other Boleyn Girl, 7TWO TV, 8:30-11:00 p.m., 18/7/’13.

I got a chunk of English history

back in grade 8, in 1957; again

while studying honours history,

and philosophy at university in

1964-5, and more little chunks

during my life as a teacher and

reader-student from ‘67 to ‘13.

 

I got my most recent little chunk

last night in the evening of life...

just short of 70, as I head into that

last decade of late adulthood, as a

model of human development used

by psychologists calls those years

from 70 to 80. But I must be careful

with historical novels and their film

adaptations: their factual accuracy!!1

1 Some of Philippa Gregory's writing has faced controversy due to lack of historical accuracy, particularly those set in the Tudor Age. Critical reviewers have stated that they would not have minded so much had Gregory not claimed complete accuracy. In her novel The Other Boleyn Girl, her portrayal of Henry VIII's second wife Anne Boleyn drew criticism. The novel depicts Anne as cold and ruthless, as well as heavily implying that the accusations that Anne committed adultery and incest with her brother were true, despite it being widely accepted that she was innocent of the charges. Historian David Starkey described her work as "good Mills and Boon".

Ron Price

19/7/’13

Ron Price has been married for 47 years(in 2014) and a teacher for 35. He has been a writer and editor for 15, and a Baha'i for 55(in 2014).
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  Quote lirelou Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2013 at 23:26
And the subject of this thread is: ??

Judging a historical novel by its film adaptation is an impossible task. Take Doctor Zhivago, for instance. The film adaptation is far superior to the novel for the average reader, who would lack the Russian historical frame of reference that Pasternak takes for granted in setting his novel. Moreover, the opening scene of the film, so crucial to bringing the film fill circle, is a mere postscript in the novel.
Moving on to "Lawrence of Arabia", another classic, it is a film based upon a war memoir (The Seven Pillars of Wisdom), yet the events in the film script demand that fictional characters stand in for historical ones. Thus we have a fictional character (Dryden) based upon Mark Sykes speaking of himself in the third person as some stranger ("an English Civil Servant"), to a T. E. Lawrence who worked with Mark Sykes in the Arab Bureau, and who disagreed with his view of the Arabs but respected him as a man.

Films have to be judged as films, and novels, on a more literary plane, as novels. And to critique a novel, you first have to readit.

Edited by lirelou - 30-Jul-2013 at 23:28
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  Quote Windemere Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2013 at 12:19
I saw The Other Boleyn Girl  a few years ago, and enjoyed it.  Mary Boleyn's role in history wasn't very well known until that film came out.

I think that the film portrays Henry VIII as the father of her child. In actuality, it isn't certain that this was the case. Henry VIII never acknowledged paternity, though in real life, he had acknowledged paternity of his other illegitimate son with the Blount girl ( he created that little boy Earl of Richmond, and apparently had him under consideration as a successor, despite his illegitimate birth, until the boy's death while still a child). One would think that in view of his eagerness to be a father, Henry would have acknowledged paternity if that were actually the case, but who knows ?  Mary's husband was Henry Carey, whom she'd married shortly before she became the king's maitresse. Her legal husband was considered to be the father of her child, as well as a second child that she bore.  Nevertheless, there was speculation back in those days, which has persisted right down to the present, over whether or not Henry was perhaps the actual biological father, of one or both of her children. Lacking DNA evidence, we'll probably never know the truth. Both of Mary's children have posterity that still survive today.

Officially, Henry VIII's direct lineage ended when his three surviving offspring (Edward VI, Mary, and Elizabeth I) passed on without issue.


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  Quote RonPrice Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jan-2014 at 01:24
Belated apologies,lirelou and Windemere, for your thoughtful responses. I did not see them until today. I quite agree that "judging a historical novel by its film adaptation is an impossible task." At the same time, as you say, Windemere, "Anne Boleyn's role in history wasn't very well known until that film came out." I studied and taught history for more than 50 years, but am now retired. There are many films now that I would have used back in those old days.-Ron
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I wrote a personal piece when I heart that Peter O'Toole died. I submit it below for your possible pleasure.
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Peter James O'Toole(1932-2013) was an Irish-born, British educated, actor of fame who died last weekend. He began working in the theatre, and gaining recognition as a Shakespearean actor, while I was making a name for myself in a small town in Ontario in pee-wee and bantam baseball for teens and pre-teens. O'Toole made his film debut in 1959 when I was in grade 10, and in love with a girl around the corner named Susan Gregory.

I have put together in the 2300 words which follow several pieces of prose and poetry, pieces I wrote in recent years since retiring after a 50 year student and working life: 1949 to 1999, and after reinventing myself as a writer and author, poet and publisher, online blogger and journalist. These words below serve as a personal reflection on the man and his life, and my own life, our lives sometimes in a curious and, for me at least, interesting synchronicity-Ron Price, Pioneering Over Four Epochs, George Town, Tasmania.
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CINEMATOGRAPHY and ECCENTRICITY

Part 1:

Perhaps I was attracted to the autobiographical aspect, the epic story, of a larger-than-life adventurer, T.E. Lawrence(1888-1935). His Arabian adventure in the film Lawrence of Arabia moved me, I recall, even after the passing of more than half a century. Perhaps it was the impressive cinematography that got to my emotions. Perhaps it was the music, the rich lyrical scores, of Maurice Jarre.

By the time I came to write this prose-poem, this reflection, after the passing of Peter O'Toole last weekend, I had seen the film Lawrence of Arabia twice in the 54 years since the start of its production history began back in October 1959. October 1959 was the month that the famous TV series The Twilight Zone started. I also joined the Bahá’í Faith that same month. O'Toole married for the first time in 1959; 1959 was a big year for this now famous man who has acted for the last time. O'Toole was into autobiography and memoirs which you can read about in the detailed account of his life at Wikipedia. I have now been working on my own autobiography for 30 years, I do not possess the genius for words which this man who is said to have memorized all 154 of Shakespeare's sonnets.

O'Toole played the role of Lawrence in Lawrence of Arabia. The film was first released three months after my travelling-pioneering venture began in Canada in September 1962 for the Canadian Baha’i community.

Lawrence's life and personality were enigmatic and complex, solitary and adventurous. He was, we are told, given to masochism; he was often beaten when a child by his mother; his sex-life was problematic; we are also told he was excessively arrogant. These are qualities I have myself exhibited but, after more than 50 years of living, and after some reflection and reading, I don't think I have ever exhibited these qualities and these problems with anything like the same intensity as Lawrence did.

I have not been tested by envy or jealousy except on the rarest of occasions. I've never had trouble with sex in anything like the same way and extent as was the case with Lawrence. Fame and wealth, the frenzy of renown, have also eluded me and, in some ways, I am thankful.

O'Toole has had to deal with alcohol and cancer, diabetes and a blood disorder; I think I've had a healthier, and far less frenetic life; alcohol has never been a problem nor have drugs, although I've had to deal with the perils of bipolar I disorder.

These qualities, these human problems and attributes to which I have referred above in the lives of either Lawrence or O'Toole , are features of life that characterize people's life-narratives, millions of people, in various degrees. People sometimes become more conscious of them, more articulate, when they go to write their autobiography as I have done in recent decades, and as Lawrence did in writing his, his Seven Pillars of Wisdom.

Part 2:

Peter O’Toole(1932- ), as I say, had his problems with alcohol, marriage, and health. He also had to deal with an extreme eccentricity, and a brilliance of sorts; he is and was a useful exemplar for students in the field of abnormal psychology. It seems, though, that they were useful qualities for his role in Lawrence, a man of brilliance and eccentricity as well. O'Toole said he was “a retired Christian” who had given up organized religion in his teens when my own life was just getting started back in the 1940s.

The historical man, T. E. Lawrence, took on the task, among others, of uniting the Arabian Bedouins against their Turkish oppressors. My task was one of trying to bring unity to a people as well, although in the years 1959 to 1962, my adolescence, when I first began to deal with this task, I had no idea of the scale, the nature and the complexity of the exercise, an exercise I have come to be involved with myself in some three dozen towns where I lived since my adolescence—some 50 years ago. My task did not operate on anything like the scale that Lawrence’s did. My world was a micro-world; my mise-en-scene, was: small towns and cities, schools and places of work, families and small groups.

I don't want to summarize the story of Lawrence nor the movie here, suffice it to say, the cinematography was breathtaking, and the music captivating. The music has hung around in my memory bank for decades. Some argue that these were the main reasons for seeing the film. Lawrence seemed to possess the paradoxical qualities of a man blinded by his ego, desirous of fame and yet, at the same time, self-effacing.

The film works with themes of fate and war, Arab tribal disunity and national politics. Lawrence exists as a dark, blank shadow, a complex, jelly-like personality in a brightly lit desert. He is a man incomprehensible even to those who knew him best: intelligent, charismatic and slightly mad. In the end he could not bring unity to the Arab tribes, could not even begin to create an Arab state. It's been a problem writ-large during the recent Arab spring.

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Unity was elusive for Lawrence and for the Arabs for many reasons, as it is elusive for us in our 21st century planetizing world.   The pioneers of our generations beginning, say, with the silent generation(1919-1939), have been able to construct only a portion of this unity, a stage along the way to the unity of humankind in the many generations to come. These several generations have got some help from science and technology which have catapulted us into a neighborhood virtually overnight, at least as the bird of history flies. As Buckminster Fuller once put it: it’s utopia or oblivion. I’m going for utopia; there is little point in working for oblivion.-Ron Price, Pioneering Over Four Epochs, 28/12/'06 to 16/12/'13.

I had no idea back then that
I would be a bit mad, too, as
I journeyed across the desert,
the Arctic-ice, the many great
tracts of land playing my part
in trying to unite the peoples
of the Earth who did not seem
to want to unite at least through
the mechanism which I advised
and suggested-again and again-
for over fifty years, say, back to
the '50s as we were just starting
to go to the moon, to rock-'n-roll.

The cinematography, the mise-
en-scene of my days, could be
magnificent in the hands of a
David Lean, a poetic imagery
with super-Panavision 70 mm
scope. You could even capture
the hills and valleys of my life
with a spectacular epic story, a
much larger-than-life idealistic
adventure & reduce my several
decades to, say, 150 minutes!!!

I had my eccentricity, but it was
nothing like Peter O’Toole’s, &
I married someone who helped
to keep my eccentricities within
bounds of social propriety—and
thus function in society….in the
classroom and in the community
with its heterogeneity. But fame
and wealth would never be mine.

Ron Price
28/12/'06 to 16/12/'13.
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I found it interesting that Peter O’Toole and director David Lean reportedly had a falling out after O’Toole turned down the lead in Zhivago. It was interesting to me, too, that Lean was married six times! Sort of puts whatever marital troubles I've had in the half-century since the 1960s in a helpful perspective. O'Toole's marital troubles also make mine pale into insignificance. That is often the case with celebrities of stage and screen, sport and superheroes of all sorts.
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EPIC

Preamble:

Oscar-winning French composer Maurice Jarre, who wrote the rich, lyrical scores for films including Doctor Zhivago and Lawrence of Arabia, died last weekend, 28/3/'09, in Los Angeles at the age of 84. I post here this prose-poem as a personal quasi-eulogy to this pioneer-traveller in the world of music composition for film.-Ron Price, Tasmania, Australia
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The shooting of the film Lawrence of Arabia was completed in the first two months of my own travel-pioneering life for the Canadian Bahá'í community, from 20 August to 20 October 1962. The film was released in North America on 16 December 1962, the year I finished my adolescent baseball and hockey careers, and my matriculation exams in Ontario at the age of 18 hoping to enter university the following year.

Lawrence of Arabia has been ranked as the greatest film in the history of the epic genre; it won seven Academy Awards that year, and it is today regarded as a masterpiece of world cinema. The film depicts the experiences of T.E. Lawrence, author of The Pillars of Wisdom, an autobiographical account penned in the aftermath of WWI. It tells of the experiences of British soldier, T. E. Lawrence, during WWI serving as a liaison officer with rebel forces during the Arab Revolt of 1916 to 1918 against the Ottoman Turks.   
-Ron Price with thanks to “Lawrence of Arabia,” in Wikipedia, 1 April 2009.

There are epics and epics, eh Lawrence?
Little did I know that I would come to
write one forty years later and they could
argue over whether I, too, was egotistical.

Your epic has many twists and turns, eh?
But that is the way life is, Lawrence. I’ve
found it so and I never even went to war,
but I must say, Lawrence, that my years
have seen a war of sorts; goodness, it has
never ended.1   It’s been an epic tale and
associated with what well may become
the greatest drama in the world’s religious
history; that erudite Gibbon, in matters
ecclesiastical, wrote about the most awful
scene in the history of humankind only he
was out by, arguably, at least 1000 years!2

1 American writer Henry Miller described as "far more terrible than the destruction" of the first two wars, the destruction we are now witnessing with fires that "will rage until the very foundations of this present world crumble." –Henry Miller quoted in Geoffrey Nash, The Pheonix and the Ashes, George Ronald, Oxford, p.55.
2 J. W. Swain, Edward Gibbon: The Historian, MacMillan, London, 1966, p.70.

Ron Price
1/4/'09 to 16/12/'13.
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Edited by RonPrice - 12-Jan-2014 at 01:26
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The whole purpose of books and movies is to entertain. That they often stray from the paths of truth and accuracy is a given. Even in case of so-called documentaries, they are often wide of the mark in these areas. But, unfortunately, movies are the only exposure many of the younger generation will get to history, and it is the movie content that will stick in their minds as historical fact. When I see that a movie has been "adapted" from a book, I understand it to be a disclosure of artistic license having been taken. Many books and movies create a bastardised version of history.
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A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens       
Dickens' famous opening sentence introduces the universal nature of the book, the French Revolution, and the drama depicted within.   
"It was the best of time, it was the worst of time, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness,"      

A Tale of Two Cities was a 1935 black-and-white MGM film starring Ronald Colman, Elizabeth Allan, Reginald Owen, Basil Rathbone, and Edna May Oliver.     
It was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Picture.     
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