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    Posted: 15-Jun-2013 at 13:27
He just won today, and I was among those ones who voted to him! Smile
 
 
It’s official - Hassan Rouhani has been declared the new President of Iran. He’s a cleric, a moderate and a polyglot (speaking English, German, French, Russian and Arabic). But he’s also a Glasgow man: jumping out from his long CV is a doctorate from Glasgow Caledonian University. Like most Glasgow men, he’s proud of the fact and boasted about it in his campaign video:-

In the video, he cheekily truncated his alma matter to “Glasgow University”. He was rumbled: it now looks as if he studied at the old Glasgow Polytechnic in the 1970s. But he seems to have enjoyed Glasgow so much – understandably – that he returned to study for a PhD. (The 1999 graduation list is here: he then went by the name of Hassan Feridon).

Now, Glasgow Poly only became a university in 1993 so, impressively, his PhD study appears to coincide with his tenure as secretary of Iran’s supreme national security council. Now, personally, I’d rather do this job from Glasgow than Tehran. What better vantage point to view the world than the kebab houses and hostelries of Sauchiehall Street? Where better to hone skills in diplomacy? (He has been Iran’s lead nuclear negotiator). And you can’t accuse him of reveling in Western decadence – life expectancy is lower in Glasgow than in Iran.

All told, the ascendancy of this Glasgow man bodes well for Iranian politics. Those armed with a Scottish education have made excellent leaders of foreign countries. Canada had John Buchan and modern Hong Kong was pretty much invented by John Cowperthwaite who applied the ideas of Adam Smith to make this tiny island as rich (per capita) as America.

The American constitution, famously, is a result of the Scottish Enlightenment. Nearly half of the signatories (including Thomas Jefferson) were of Scottish descent. James Wilson, one of a handful to sign both the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, had the triple advantage of being educated at the universities of Edinburgh, St Andrews and Glasgow.

So Rouhani is far from alone. Aspiring reformers world over, even Emperors of China, have sought a Scottish education over the generations. The principles of the Scottish Enlightenment – limited government, individual liberty, faith in the people – pretty much forged the modern world. These principles are much-needed in the Persian world. It’s time for a little Adam Smith magic – and Rouhani advocates equal rights for women, free trade (or the lifting of sanctions anyway) and limiting the state’s power to interfere in people’s private lives. These principles tend to work wherever they are applied.
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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Jun-2013 at 17:01
I heard that he is a reformist so good luck with him

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  Quote yomud Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Jun-2013 at 22:28
i voted to him too but i never think could elected 

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If Rohani is a threat to the Islamic regime and the 'status quo', he would have been eliminated by the authorities just like the other candidates. He is nothing more than a new face of a regime in which the Supreme Leader is the most powerful player.

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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jun-2013 at 00:24
The real fight was between Khamanei and Rafsanjani, and this time Rafsanjani won!
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jun-2013 at 00:56

Last night the people of Iran became happy again after some years, some photos from Farsnews:

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  Quote TheAlaniDragonRising Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jun-2013 at 01:08
As they say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jun-2013 at 01:48
That's ironic. Same night Turks were also on street as people in Iran but for different purpose.  Cry
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jun-2013 at 19:48
Ollios, all anyone here can say is, stay safe and hope cooler heads will prevail. 
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Jun-2013 at 12:26
Rohani? The Chief negotiator?

Another faux gesture to get pressure off on going nuc weapons grade development, military modernization and proliferation. Not to mention ongoing support of the Mullah's anti-Semite agenda....and fanatic Islamist terrorism.

Snakes in the grass also bite. Even when they appear benign. And this one's attempts to obfuscate his previous and ongoing support of the aforementioned and his relationship with them is clear...if ya look.


But the Jew haters and enemies of the democratic, modern west will continue to promote his progressiveness. Horseshit.


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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Jun-2013 at 14:27
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I couldn't look at your source. However don't you think that your speech is ruthless? He is just new elected politician. Give him a chance and don't wait to many things. Real change in Iran won't come with election. It will be more bloody. 

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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Jun-2013 at 17:02
Originally posted by Ollios


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I couldn't look at your source. However don't you think that your speech is ruthless? He is just new elected politician. Give him a chance and don't wait to many things. Real change in Iran won't come with election. It will be more bloody. 



Check the reference at Radio Free Europe.

Ruthless?


Nope. The fact remains this new proxy 'faux moderate' leader is dedicated to the Mullahs and their insanity. IF YOU READ THE INTERVIEW YOU WILL SEE IT. I've seen this crap since 79. Same old tired game. Bring an 'alleged' moderate in to alleviate the concerns and obfuscate intent. Only the dumb ass's in Euro land, the US and the ME, believe that more negotiation...more babble....more genuflection to terrorism versus eradication....is the answer. Same fools who have allowed this to happen since 79....deluded fools.

The Russians and the PRC and the fanatics in Saudi Arabia, know better. But they wont tell ya the truth either.

Solution? Don't believe him anymore then those he serves which is only the fanatics in Iran. Blockade their coastline. Freeze all international assets. Support opposition and help them if they rise. In this you are correct.

But with Obama?


Forget it.
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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Jun-2013 at 18:46
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis


Solution? Don't believe him anymore then those he serves which is only the fanatics in Iran. Blockade their coastline. Freeze all international assets. Support opposition and help them if they rise. In this you are correct.

Do you think that world policy of USA is logical?

What do we know about Israel nuclear weapons? Nothing. They are undeclared nuclear power. Every sources says that they had, but they still deny. What's the difference from Iran?

Does USA have any plan to blockade India, Pakistan and Israel which don't sign Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons? I don't think.

I am not fan of mullahs but also I don't want to see a Middle East which have been dicided on military table of Pentagon 




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''Do you think that world policy of USA is logical?




What do we know about Israel nuclear weapons? Nothing. They are undeclared nuclear power. Every sources says that they had, but they still deny. What's the difference from Iran?




Does USA have any plan to blockade India, Pakistan and Israel which don't sign Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons? I don't think.




I am not fan of mullahs but also I don't want to see a Middle East which have been dicided on military table of Pentagon ''

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1. Not at this time as the ongoing diplo-babble and genuflection and dialog are useless at this point. Military action is now long overdo.

2. Whether the IG has the weapons is immaterial; they are not representing a threat of Islamist terrorism, And continuous disruption to the region or threat to the democratic west. Or advocating an anti-Semitic or other genocide.

3. It is to the mutual advantage of the Indians and the democratic west to contain the Pakistani's who also are, in part, representative of Islamist terrorism and it's support; direct, indirect, covert and overt (as are the Saudi's for that matter at certain levels). This is the foundation and primary reason of the presence of the weapons to include their long held antipathy against each other.

And yes, I am confident the US DOD War plans division; has contingency plans for containment or destruction of any nuclear weapons state's weapons or weapons making ability. Tis the nature of the development of strategy to a perceived threat. My own prior experience tells me this is so.



4. As it is not being directly decided by regional governments to include Turkey or alleged alliances; even when it is viewed as a threat to their existence, or because of religious and or ideological agendas and economic interests, it falls by default to the Pentagon.

Moral cowardice is the first step towards affiliation and the brother of appeasement when faced by a threat.


Wake up over there Ollios...your enemy was never the Israelis or the Americans; but the fanatics in your own country, the region and in particular, the Iranian mullahs. And if you do not encourage others to recognize this, then you too serve the agenda of the fanatics as an unwitting accomplice.

What would Ataturk do?

Eliminate the threat. This is your proper course.

Remember your great leader.


I do.

Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 21-Jun-2013 at 11:30
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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Jun-2013 at 14:54
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis


1. Not at this time as the ongoing diplo-babble and genuflection and dialog are useless at this point. Military action is now long overdo. 

Military action is predictable answer from people who live in the top country of arms exporters. Wake up Cowboy. This is not Texas. Put your gun into own case Wink

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

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You talked too much Big smile  I just understand that cowboies can broke the rules of game; transparency about own nuclear weapons and project, can increase number of their bombs but red indians can't. 

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis


Wake up over there Ollios...your enemy was never the Israelis or the Americans; but the fanatics in your own country, the region and in particular, the Iranian mullahs. And if you do not encourage others to recognize this, then you too serve the agenda of the fanatics as an unwitting accomplice.

*Enemy? Can I remind you listing scandal in UK? Our precious friend UK has listened all people in G20 meeting include USA and Turkey in 2009. Now, who is my real friend?  

*Why do I have to chose militarist aggressive America-Israel or fanatic Mullahs? I don't want bothBig smile 

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis


What would Ataturk do?

Eliminate the threat. This is your proper course.

Remember your great leader.

That's why Ataturk tried to establish strong connection with neighbour countries. 

*How is American popularity in current democratic Afghanistan (after military action)? Did their hate or Anti-Americanism because of al-Qaeda? Do you think people in Iran will burn with love of Israel after mullahs? 

*The sympathy of Israel is racing with Iran. Is it because of Iran? If Israel feels a threat, he should also change his policies. It is that much simple.

" Israel is one of the least popular countries in the world; the only states less popular are North Korea, Pakistan and Iran."

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To include European democracies.

The Afghans tribal cultural basis has been rejecting any interference long before Mohammed's, 'may he rest in peace', followers ever brought his dictums across the mountains.

To see them reject any interference is traditional...but they have poor memories...they forget who helped them eliminate the Russians and; the more modernist among them, albeit granted a minority, will never live to procreate..... let alone establish a free democratic state with the Terrorist fanatics amongst AQ and the Tban...amongst them.

The IG doesn't have to be popular or 'pc' when it comes to national security. Hence the rhetoric by the Mad Mullahs, in desiring eradication of Israel as a nation state and a world genocide directed towards Jews trumps the Palistinian homeland question. And those who would violently support it. It is the Mullahs and the fanatics who must change. Eliminate the threatening and the attitudes will change over time. this continuing to deny the right of the IG to exist is fallacious and theologically delusional.

Ataturk eliminated threats. Period. You know it and I do.

As for accepting or choosing? That depends on the 'lesser' of the evil as perceived by the viewer eh.

But you certainly don't have to accept mine. I told you I like you and would see no harm come to your country to include the idiot fanatics there, anymore then I would mine. Dissention is democracy. Ntl, lunacy must be contained if not eliminated.

Ataturk knew that as well.

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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Jun-2013 at 19:13
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis


The IG doesn't have to be popular
I agree you about that it is not a beauty contest. However Israel is in depth with Pakistan, N.Korea and Iran. Don't you see a problem? 

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis


...when it comes to national security.
I am from FBI and this is about national security... You are watching to much hollywood movie Big smile 

A question, which side are your supporting in Kardak/Imia island case?
Greece: They think that they need to have island, it is about national security 
Turkey: same thing

Which side will you chose is unimportant. My point is that different ideas about national security can be in conflict, so you can't escape just saying "national security". You have to think that your act which is related about your national security, can be casus belli for the other or maybe your act obviously seizes other's rights

Maybe, Turkey needs to occupy North Iraq's rich petroluem fields, but don't worry just for Turkish national security. Wink

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

this continuing to deny the right of the IG to exist is fallacious and theologically delusional. 
Doesn't Israel deny  the right of the Palestinian to exist?

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis


As for accepting or choosing? That depends on the 'lesser' of the evil as perceived by the viewer eh.

Lesser of the evil, nice try LOL I still don't want to choose one side. I think I will go on your way "Blockade their coastline. Freeze all international assets. Support opposition and help them if they rise. 

I will support anti-militarist goverments in Iran, Palestinian, Israel and USA. 
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