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Nick1986
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Topic: The photos that prevented WW3 Posted: 07-Jan-2013 at 08:33 |
On October 23, 1962, a U.S. Navy commander named William B. Ecker took
off from Key West at midday in an RF-8 Crusader jet equipped with five
reconnaissance cameras. Accompanied by a wingman, Lt. Bruce Wilhelmy, he
headed toward a mountainous region of western Cuba where Soviet troops
were building a facility for medium-range missiles aimed directly at the
United States. A U-2 spy plane, flying as high as 70,000 feet, had
already taken grainy photographs that enabled experts to find the
telltale presence of Soviet missiles on the island. But if President
John F. Kennedy was going to make the case that the weapons were a
menace to the entire world, he would need better pictures.
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Azita
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Posted: 07-Jan-2013 at 10:08 |
Such a fascinating world changing "event.
Spent much time on this when i took my MA.
Can i just counter ( not challenge) your "prevented WW3" statement with Vasili Arkhipov.
i hope we can get deep into this topic.
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Posted: 07-Jan-2013 at 11:08 |
I lived through that mess. At the tender age of 16, I was a Civil Defense radio operator and Fallout Shelter manager.
The photos exposed what was happening in Cuba. What prevented WWIII was Kruschev having the political courage to back down.
He had seriously misjudged Kennedy. Realizing that Kennedy was not going to back down and allow the missiles to become operative, Kruschev had the common sense to back down himself, a move that eventually was responsible for his being replaced.
Another factor that was unknown to the US at the time, but known to Kruschev, was the fact that Castro already had tactical nukes and had vowed to use them should the US invade Cuba. What it came down to was the Soviets couldn't trust Castro to stay with "the program".
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Posted: 07-Jan-2013 at 12:19 |
Tis an interesting tale...yet the claim can be made that it was a natural followup to the aerial surveillance by the USAF using RB47's over the actual Soviet Union; in Project/Operation Home Run, beginning in 1956, before even the U2 flights of the CIA. A total of 156 overflights of RB47's occurred between March and May of 56. The first CIA U2 run is reputed to be by Herve Stockman on July 4, 1956 flying out of Wiesbaden, then W Germany.
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Posted: 07-Jan-2013 at 19:19 |
I was a seventeen year old Nike Hercules crewman. We thought we were going to war, and we saw it as necessary. We only scrambled once, and put our missiles at the ready, but that turned out to be a Canadian AF Brigadier who had apparently ended up in the wrong air space. It would have really been embarrassing if the first casualty of the war had been friendly fire against a fellow member of NORAD.
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Centrix Vigilis
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Posted: 08-Jan-2013 at 00:59 |
Nike Herc eh...now ya giving away your age indeed.
One of my pards was a Honest John man then later Pershing. We used to guard the poor bastards out in the docks when I served once in Fortress Europa. Location on some of them is still classified. Alerts alerts...always gawdamn fun.
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Centrix Vigilis
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Posted: 10-Jan-2013 at 07:07 |
Tidbit: Research the 35th Black Cat U-2 Squadron. Taiwanese Nationalists flying for the agency and the ROCAF, in the 60's over the mainland PRC. When declassified documents became available in 98....not a word about these intrepid men. Several of whom were shot down, tortured and imprisoned. Still isn't a recognition of their work. It has been speculated that their losses, coupled to the A-12 program's seizure, by and for the USAF's mission objectives primarily, was a factor in the development of drones for espionage usage by the CIA. Needless to say where do you suppose drone development and testing occurs initially. For more on that: research the Lockheed D-21 drone. Code name Tagboard.
Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 10-Jan-2013 at 07:16
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Posted: 10-Jan-2013 at 07:50 |
Btw.... ya wanna knows what happens on occassion when manned aerial observers were used to collect data on nuc weapons/devices tests? They couldn't first rescue; or save Captain Robinson, simply because he was wearing a lead lined vest to help protect him as he flew through the radioactive clouds. When his plane crashed he and it went to the bottom. RIP. Captain Robinson.
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Posted: 04-Mar-2013 at 14:00 |
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis
in Fortress Europa.
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I wonder where would that be....
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