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    Posted: 30-Dec-2007 at 04:09
Tarik-i-Pakistan. Discuss the History of Pakistan.
 
A nation that believes itself to be the successors and culture bearers of the Mughaal Empire. A Military State that only kids itself into pretending it is a jumhurriyaat (republic); being America's number One military arms client, along with Russia and China. They say anything that could go wrong in this country does, and yet it manages to float back on top.
 
Comprised of the following ethnicities: Pushtoon, Balochi, Punjabi, Sindhi, Seraiki and Muhajir immigrants, you have the nation of Pakistan.
 
 
 
Discuss its History, its Democratic History, its Agricultural Feudalism as well as Industrial Feudalism. Discuss its Islamic flavor, its constant loggerheads with the Hindustanis, its nightmare borders with Khomenid Iran, Warlord Afghanistan, Communist China, and Arch-Nemesis Hindu India.
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Its important to understand how Pakistan came to be.
 
Originally the Muslims of Greater India were the Elite or if there be a Caste System, the Highest Caste. The British more then less had to work with them to get done what needed be. Also, the Muslims of Greater India were far more secular then they are today. Tawaif culture, multiple women and concubines, wine were the norm in this culture.
 
Pakistan came throught the efforts of a group of elite Muslim politicians, educated class, and imams or maulanas. They chose British cultured Quaid-e-Azam (Leader of the Nation) to preach their stance for a seperate Nation state.
 
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You sound very angry. No need to insult.

Pakistan is the home of the Indus Valley, Ghandara, was the main part of the Kushan and Mughal empires too.
Fair enough, the term Pakistan didnt exist, but the people of Pakistan have always lived in the region and the history belongs to them.

In fact, its not illogical to use Pakistan in times before 1947 since Pakistan stands for Punjab, Afghania (frontier province), Kashmir, Sindh and Baluchistan. And when referring to Pakistani history, we are basically talking about the history of those regions. So Pakistan is an acronym for those regions.

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The nature of feudalism in the 21st century.

As nations have moved beyond Agriculture towards Industry, certain societies tend to retain Feudalism. Pakistan is one of those certain societies. India is too.

Dynasties, Not Democracy,
May Decide Pakistan's Vote

In Rural Areas, Running
Often Runs in the Family;
Three Cousins Face Off

SHAH JEWNA, Pakistan -- If next month's parliamentary elections fail to bring sweeping changes to Pakistan, the contest for this constituency deep in the country's heartland may help explain why.
The incumbent lawmaker, Faisal Saleh Hayat, 52 years old, won three of the past six parliamentary races here. His challenger, Abida Hussain, 61, won the other three. Raza Ali Bokhari, 38, is campaigning for the first time, as a self-described "candidate of change."
All three are cousins.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120069548804401439.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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"I'm one of the ultimate feudals of the Punjab," Ms. Hussain said later over lunch indoors with a visitor, as her guests squatted for a communal meal on the veranda. "But I'm also the bonded slave and indentured laborer serving my locality."
Between dispensing favors, Ms. Hussain maintained a running political commentary. Pakistani cities, she lamented, are now overrun by a "yuppie, nouveaux, crass, disgusting lot." Mr. Musharraf, she said, is a tyrant who had murdered Ms. Bhutto. When reminded that Mr. Musharraf has denied such accusations -- saying he doesn't assassinate people because he is "not a feudal and not a tribal" -- Ms. Hussain smiled. "Poor thing, he's a son of clerks," she said. "His mother was just a typist."
Every few minutes, Ms. Hussain's BlackBerry phone rang with updates on the day's proceedings in Mr. Hayat's camp. "I also have my spies," she beamed, repeatedly referring to her nemesis as "this swine."




The cousins have come a long way from the policies of their ancestors, who kept local peasants in medieval-style serfdom. But all three retain vast tracts of farmland and dispense favors, money and jobs to locals. When they appear in public, villagers bow down, and, in an ancient show of obeisance, touch the hemlines of the politicians' clothes.

At left, a supporter bows before Mr. Hayat (center, in the striped sweater.)



Peasants on Ms. Hussain's estate say they will vote for her because she gives them sustenance. "All of us will vote for her, even if we have to walk all the way to Islamabad for it. Whatever she says, we will do," worker Ahmed Ali (bottom row, second from right) says.



In the runup to the vote neither Mr. Hayat nor Ms. Hussain have been out to hold a big rally or to visit their voters, they say. Instead, they have received well-wishers and supplicants at their own estates here.

At left, Ms. Hussain holds court on the porch of her estate in Shah Jewna.




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Cool topic for us.
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I always Was interested to know more about Pakistan .

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