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The long and wonderful voyage of Frier Iohn de Plano Carpini

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    Posted: 23-Feb-2005 at 21:25
Here's a rare find for all you steppe "Primary Source" hunters and Latinists as well. It was at least interesting to see some Latin interpretation of Steppe names.

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/h/hakluyt/voyages/carpi ni/index.html

John Carpini was one of the many westerners who traveled east into the Mongol Empires. Carpini visited Batu Khan and went on to meet the Great Khan Guyuk, who gave him a letter of warning to be delivered to the Pope. His travels were originally recordeded in the manuscript "History of the Mongols whom we call Tartars"

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  Quote Alparslan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Feb-2005 at 03:02
Thank you for this wonderful source. 
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  Quote Landsknecht_Doppelsoldner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2005 at 10:28

That's a great book, and an English translation by Erik Hildinger is currently available.

Still, I'd love to know more about the mysterious ex-TEMPLAR who was part of a Mongol contingent captured in Austria by Duke Frederick's troops...

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2005 at 16:45
the Templar fought in Hlgs army in Syria, not for Abt in Austria...where you got all those wrong informations from?
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  Quote Landsknecht_Doppelsoldner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2005 at 18:04

Originally posted by Temujin

the Templar fought in Hlgs army in Syria, not for Abt in Austria...where you got all those wrong informations from?

Temujin, I'm talking about a SINGLE ex-Templar (didn't you read my original post?), NOT the allied Crusader and Mongol armies that you appear to be referring to.

The Templar in question was an Englishman, who spoke several languages.  He was captured in Austria, and not much else is known about him.  The info comes from James Chambers' The Devil's Horsemen.

Again--read more carefully, and STOP TROLLING!!!  



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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2005 at 18:21
you should read more carefully, i said Templar and not Templars, furthermore no Englishman (or any Mongol at all) was captured in Austria. the book is simply inaccurate and outdated. don't accuse me of trollign again, if any, your the troll here, stop provoking me or i'll officially warn you.
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  Quote Landsknecht_Doppelsoldner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2005 at 18:30

Originally posted by Temujin

you should read more carefully, i said Templar and not Templars, furthermore no Englishman (or any Mongol at all) was captured in Austria. the book is simply inaccurate and outdated. don't accuse me of trollign again, if any, your the troll here, stop provoking me or i'll officially warn you.

Prove to me that there was no Englishman among the Mongols captured in Austria.

And what am I being "warned" for?  I constantly provide sources for my posts, which is more than I can say for you. 

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  Quote TJK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Mar-2005 at 09:39

Another miedeval work about Tatars by C. DE BRIDIA MONACHI

Hystoria Tartarorum (in latin)

 

Hystoria Tartarorum (in russian)

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