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  Quote azimuth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: longest and shortest lasting empires
    Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 05:28

 can we consider the eqyptians before the persians as one empire?

 

 

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  Quote Inquisitor Dei Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 12:16
If not the longest, the Roman Empire was undoubtly the most influencial. And I am considering the Byzantine period as well (The Christian era). So a total period from around 30's BC to 1453 AD, shaping europe and, consequently, the world.

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  Quote Infidel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 12:55
The Ottoman Empire, ruling continuously from 1300 to 1923. That's six centuries of unbroken sovereignty. Pretty much, I'd say. I don't know how you left that out, Miller.

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  Quote dark_one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 13:54
 Russian Empire 862-1917
1055 years
Not bad.
Also Kerenski's Provisional government rule was short
March 1917 (don't know exact date)-October 25 old style, November 7 New Style 1917.
& or so months.


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  Quote Perseas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Jan-2005 at 16:17
Obviously the longest is Byzantine empire lasted more than a thousand years. If we take as starting day the changeover from Rome to Constantinople as capital in 330, it lasted since 1453.
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 13:44

Originally posted by dark_one

 Russian Empire 862-1917
1055 years
Not bad.
Also Kerenski's Provisional government rule was short
March 1917 (don't know exact date)-October 25 old style, November 7 New Style 1917.
& or so months.

Russian empire began with Ivan III, not already in 862

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  Quote Exarchus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Jan-2005 at 15:29
The Angevin Empire was damn short. It's even a very virtual empire.





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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Jan-2005 at 18:20
not to mention that teh Anjou family also ruled over the kingdom of Naples and Hungary(including Poland) for some time...
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  Quote warhead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Jan-2005 at 20:14
Before going into this, a definition of this empire must be given, people confuse the definition of empire, in modern time it means a imperial possession of foreign territories. Back then it was just a state ruled by an emperor. I think comparing these two definition by themselves are largely meaningless. Whats more definiting is the duration of the central regime without change. For example, the so called Roman Empire that lasted 5 centuries is far from a single continuos regime. The central power has been overthrown plenty of times. Of course a change in the governmental structure to such a degree that alters the power within should also be categorized as another regime.  
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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Jan-2005 at 21:47

 

Here is one definition. I do agree that once the central regime has changed that is not the same empire  

 

empire   Audio pronunciation of "empire" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mpr)
n.

    1. A political unit having an extensive territory or comprising a number of territories or nations and ruled by a single supreme authority.
    2. The territory included in such a unit.

 

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